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SoaPiNuReYe
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A girl smiles at you and you fall in love with her?
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Paul Goldner
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No?
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Depends on who the girl is I guess.
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No, even though it's always "I just want to be friends" for me.
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Dr Strangelove
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Alcon
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Yeah, kinda do. I mean it's a nice feeling and all. And it would be wonderful if I could expect... you know, something to come of that feeling. Like, if I already knew she was in love with me for instance. But otherwise... not so much. Cause usually it just means I think "Wow", shortly followed by "Aww crap, not again". I'm not good with the whole girl thing.
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Just piping in (sorry to intrude, but only a little sorry)... um, it sucks for girls, too (meaning when a guy smiles and you fall in love...)!!! ; )

ps - Alcon - i think i know what you mean, i'm not really good with the guy thing. so basically feeling totally attracted after meeting someone for a short while throws me off!!

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I don't think that'd be possible for me.
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Umm, not really? Unless she smiles at everyone?
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SoaP, m' boy, the technical term for what you are feeling is 'lust'.

[Hat]

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Swampjedi
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Lust is too harsh. Attraction.
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I don't believe in love at first sight.

I believe in lust/like/infatuation/attraction/whatever at first sight, which can turn into love, but usually not.

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Swampjedi
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Yeah, it's just imprecise language.
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Alcon
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Attraction is a little too week, lust and infatuation are too strong. I doubt we'll find an exact word for it. But he got the point across, I think we all know the feeling he was talking about.
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It's only good if she feels something for you, too.

Otherwise, it's just cold showers all the way down...

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Perhaps loving lust.
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Maybe our hearts know something our minds can't understand.
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I don't believe in love at first sight.

I believe in lust/like/infatuation/attraction/whatever at first sight, which can turn into love, but usually not.

Exactly.
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Libbie
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Looooooove is a many-spleeennnndored thiiiiinnng.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I don't believe in love at first sight.

I believe in lust/like/infatuation/attraction/whatever at first sight, which can turn into love, but usually not.

Exactly.
Indeed.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Maybe our hearts know something our minds can't understand.

hmmm...

NAH.

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Euripides
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:

Maybe our hearts know something our minds can't understand.

Nope, unless 'heart' is a metaphor for the subconscious.
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I don't fall for the girls who smile.

I fall for the girls who hate me, and look at me like I'm an idiot. They're the ones who're smart and difficult--my type all over.

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Ill have to agree, its my least favorite feeling. Especially sense, silly as i am, i do it seemingly every day, consistantly saying 'well, she might be the one'

ha. i agree with mr. porteiro.

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Yes, I hate it.

No, over-analyzing it doesn't do any good.

It's still . . . hate-worthy.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Maybe our hearts know something our minds can't understand.

Like a poet, you are. Or a country music lyricist.
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Like a poet, you are. Or a country music lyricist.
guess which one makes more money
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I don't believe in love at first sight.

I believe in lust/like/infatuation/attraction/whatever at first sight, which can turn into love, but usually not.

Exactly.
But you can have something more than lust/like/infatuation/attraction/whatever at first conversation that turns into love and there is a feeling of inevitableness about the whole situation.

(I'm not disagreeing, I'm just being sappy, and recollecting.)

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Awwww.

The first contact I had with my now-husband, I thought he was a total dufus. And possibly not all that bright.

Luckily, I was wrong. He's a total dufus, all right, but in a good way. And he's very bright, just not at 1 in the morning after writing e-mails for two hours after studying for three. I'm surprised he could type at all coherently, knowing him as I now do.

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The first time I saw they guy who would be my husband, I was on top of a building on campus looking down, and saw him going across the quad. I was instantly fascinated, and said, "That is someone that I'd like to get to know better."

And I did.

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*Awwww*

[Smile]

To expand on my last post - I met my (now) husband on a non-date with a mutual friend. Our friend by no means intended to set us up (in fact, she was kind of ticked off by the events she set in motion). But from the first conversation we had that night, we realised there was something very, very serious between us.

We were dating (exclusively) a week afterwards, and pretty much committed in our relationship a day after that.

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The first time I saw my husband was, for lack of a better word, resonant. Sure, he had that mixture of physical characteristics that pushed my buttons (gorgeous red-gold hair, strong profile (I have a thang for nice straight, narrow nose, for some reason) and a certain assurance in the way he carried himself) but it was more than that. Would I call it "love" as I have come to know it? No, but I wouldn't call it strictly "lust" either. I am familiar with lust, and find it fairly easy to ignore.

There is a Japanese folk tradition that says true lovers are united from birth by a crimson thread. If they meet each other, they know it right away, but if they never meet they just kind of vaguely feel like they are missing something their whole lives.

Does everyone have a crimson thread? I don't know. But I DO believe that there was something almost prescient about what I experienced when I first met my husband.

(I also don't mean to imply that those whose first meetings with their true loves were not that resonant are not truly meant to be. I just wanted to asert that while "love at first sight" is a simplistic and easily misused phrase, dismissing it as pure lust is also somewhat simplistic and misleading.

(In the interest of full disclosure I should admit to wanting to break the hubby's kneecaps yesterday, over a rather involved miscommunication. [Big Grin] However, that doesn't mean I don't love him [Smile] )

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im, "first conversation" ≠ "first sight"

I do believe you can know a lot about a person (at least sometimes) from a single conversation.



I also believe (based not only on my own observations) that we tend to remember things a tad differently than we might have described them at the time.

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It DEFINETLY is not love at first site...

I've known the girl for over 2 years now. Shes really popular and was the sophmore homecoming princess at my highschool. I had a class with her in 8th grade and that's how I knew her but we never hung out in ninth grade, and until now the most interaction between us was saying hi in the hallways or at football games. Im in 10th grade now, and she transferred into my spanish class about 5 weeks ago. We talked a bit more but we still didnt hang out or anything. All of a sudden this Friday she comes in and basically turns my life upside down.

I sit in the front of my class (assigned seats) and she sits all the way on the other side of the class. I sit by the door and on Friday as I was sitting down, she comes in. I say hi to her, and she looks all funny at me, touches my cheek and exclaims about how cute I am to the girl who sits beside me.
About 30 minutes later we do a group activity and my partner for the activity sits right beside the girl. So I go sit with my partner and the girl's partner comes and sits by her. Long story short, she ends up playing footsie with me during the whole activity. Im trying to play it Ice Cold but its hard and I have no idea why all of sudden all this affection is coming from her.
At the end of class she asks me if I was the kid who asked her if we were supposed to turn in some worksheet and if I had her language teacher. I wasn't the kid and didn't have her language teacher, so I told her so. She then asks her self why she mixed me up with someone else, only the answer the question by saying she thinks too much about me, while smiling. It was the smile that got me, but everthing that had happened that period was buzzing through my head. I don't know if I like this girl...

Help?

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Ask her if she'd like to get ice cream or coffee or whatever it is you tenth graders do [Smile] Find OUT if you like her. Thats what dates are for.
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Aw... youth... how adorable.
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Attraction is a little too week, lust and infatuation are too strong. I doubt we'll find an exact word for it. But he got the point across, I think we all know the feeling he was talking about.
Twitterpation. The word you are looking for is twitterpation. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Belle:
quote:
Like a poet, you are. Or a country music lyricist.
guess which one makes more money
I'm a twang and a guitar away from the big bucks!
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I want a shoulder to cry on too!! (hint hint)
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i agree with the general sentiment that love at first sight doesnt really exist.

its those times when its somone you're already close to and then they smile at you for some reason or another and suddenly you feel different about their smile. Or more importantly, you suddenly realise that you actually like them smiling at you and have to really think out why you just realised that you like them smiling at you. Which usually leads to you realising you like alot more about them than just a smile....

and yes, i hate it

[ December 04, 2006, 12:33 AM: Message edited by: Ecthalion ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Goldner:
whatever it is you tenth graders do

....with your rap music and your emo pants. GET OFF MY LAWN!

-pH

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quote:
Originally posted by SoaPiNuReYe:
It DEFINETLY is not love at first site...

I've known the girl for over 2 years now. Shes really popular and was the sophmore homecoming princess at my highschool. I had a class with her in 8th grade and that's how I knew her but we never hung out in ninth grade, and until now the most interaction between us was saying hi in the hallways or at football games. Im in 10th grade now, and she transferred into my spanish class about 5 weeks ago. We talked a bit more but we still didnt hang out or anything. All of a sudden this Friday she comes in and basically turns my life upside down.

I sit in the front of my class (assigned seats) and she sits all the way on the other side of the class. I sit by the door and on Friday as I was sitting down, she comes in. I say hi to her, and she looks all funny at me, touches my cheek and exclaims about how cute I am to the girl who sits beside me.
About 30 minutes later we do a group activity and my partner for the activity sits right beside the girl. So I go sit with my partner and the girl's partner comes and sits by her. Long story short, she ends up playing footsie with me during the whole activity. Im trying to play it Ice Cold but its hard and I have no idea why all of sudden all this affection is coming from her.
At the end of class she asks me if I was the kid who asked her if we were supposed to turn in some worksheet and if I had her language teacher. I wasn't the kid and didn't have her language teacher, so I told her so. She then asks her self why she mixed me up with someone else, only the answer the question by saying she thinks too much about me, while smiling.

She wants to get to know you better. Period.

Her interest may not be romantic, but she's still, uh, interested. You have nothing to lose here by asking her if she wants to spend some time together. In a casual, "ice cream or whatever it is you 10th graders do" sort of way.

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I would have to disagree. My gut instinct says she's flirting, and is in stage 1. Stage 2 starts immediately after she gets the guy interested. Then she starts ignoring him completely and will even be hostile just to maximize his pain and embarrassment.
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Bitter, much?
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Experienced.
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quote:
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Long story short, she ends up playing footsie with me during the whole activity.

You sure it was her? There could be some REALLY confused person sitting at home right now with a BIIIG crush on you.

Homestar -

Have to go with rivka on that one. "Experience" would tell you that not all girls are like that, just the ones that aren't worth your time.

The thing I never really developed a radar for was when a girl is flirting because she likes you and when she is flirting because she's just, well, flirting. Girls at my work are the most flirtatious people I've ever met, but I know that probably 95% of them are just kidding around, and it's all just in good fun, and 100% of whatever flirting I do is just that too, really a joke more than anything nearing romantic interest. But it's impossible to tell the difference, because flirting is all the same, but the intent is a mystery, and it takes me forever to parse out the difference.

I mean, at least when a guy flirts with a girl (single guys anyway, or douchebag guys in relationships), the girl being flirting with knows what his intentions are (or at least has a decent idea), but guys remain flummoxed (or at least, I do). It took me forever (seriously, the better part of 9 or 10 months) to ascertain whether or not Raia might have liked me before we started dating, and even then it took me even more time to work up anything even close to the necessary amount of courage to tell her how I felt.

So I still blame girls, but not because I think they are evil, or because I'm bitter, but because they're like a devilishly hard game of Clue, where I'm stuck in the Conservatory and can't seem to find the secret passage. But that still doesn't stop me from playing the game [Smile]

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I mean, at least when a guy flirts with a girl (single guys anyway, or douchebag guys in relationships), the girl being flirting with knows what his intentions are (or at least has a decent idea), but guys remain flummoxed (or at least, I do).
Gotta disagree with you there. There are plenty of guys who simply flirt, period, with no other intentions. They flirt because that's how they communicate. And then, you work up the nerve to say, "Hey, wanna go out some time," and they act completely floored, as though the thought of you romantically never even crossed their minds. So, no, just because a guy flirts doesn't mean that the flirtee knows his intentions.
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I know guys that flirt to prove to themselves that they are attractive. I know girls that do the same thing.

It's not great, but they don't actually have a relationship or kiss someone or have them give up things for them just for the thrill, but I've known plenty of people of both genders who flirt for the fun of it without ever intending for their to be followup consequences.

I don't actually think that's bad. Flirting is fun. Just don't sell the farm and buy a ring until you are sure there is something more.

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I don't disagree with you at all, and I didn't mean to imply it was a bad thing. I just felt the need to disagree with the, "Guys are obvious and girls are mysterious" declaration. Cause, y'know, it doesn't always work that way.
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