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My wife [who was at the time my gf] was addicted to hattrack when I met her in 2004. I think at some point in 2005, there was a thread about India / Hinduism that Jac wanted my opinion on... I ended up posting using her account as it seemed a more reliable form of communication than chinese whispers...
I'd been following threads every now and then since, but didn't sign up for an account until Feb 2006 when I wanted to reply to a post about Iran, and I didnt have access to Jac's account...
There's my story, what's yours?
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I have never been to, or heard of, this place you call "Hattrack". What's it like and why should I leave "Hatrack" for it?
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Shoulder chips, loudly wail, As the topics we derail, And the Ha'track goes brawling along. In and out, hear us shout, Counterpointing all about, And the Ha'track goes brawling along.
And it's you! he! she! With verbal artillery, Shouting opinions proud and strong. For wherever you go, You will always know That the Ha'track goes brawling along.
I found Hatrack via Ender's Game. I signed up on a whim one breezy November morning, but didn't end up posting much of anything until the following February.
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I was bored at work and surfing the web looking up authors that I liked, seeing if any of them had websites. I'd heard of Card's site before, but it had been long enough ago that it was an AOL exclusive thing. I found the place, found the forums, and pretty much devoured them, going back and reading the archives at Big Mouth Lion, which Hatrack had just (as in the week or so previous) migrated from. I didn't register until I read a post by dmichael that was just begging for refutation, though.
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quote:Originally posted by Strider: I have never been to, or heard of, this place you call "Hattrack". What's it like and why should I leave "Hatrack" for it?
It's a place for all those people who pronounce it wrong. As to why you should leave Hatrack for it . . . well, you shouldn't.
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I found Hatrack on my own after reading the Ender series and Songmaster and had some comments to get off my chest. Was blown away by the hospitality and intelligence of the people here and stayed ever since.
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I signed up because of OSC's comments in one of the Alvin Maker forwards. I checked it out right away, but I had never participated in a forum before...hell, I didn't even have a computer of my own....so I didn't sign up right away. Or at least I didn't post right away.
I kept logging on at my parents house using their computer, and I was impressed with the sense of community here.
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I also found it in OSC's notes at the end of one of his books. I started at the Young Writer's Forum though, and it took me a few years to venture over to the "grown-up" side.
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I have to aggree that OSC's notes at the end of his books really got me interested in him as a person. I guess it really is as he says about the power of stories.
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In one of my creative writing classes in my first year of college, a couple students mentioned this site (although not the forum specifically). So towards the end of the semester, I checked it out. I've been here ever since.
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I wanted to follow up and see if anything had come out since Ender's Shadow, searched Orson Scott Card and this was the first site that came up. Found the forums and started playing...
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I think I first read about Hatrack in one of OSC's afterwards in a Bean book. I lurked for a few months, forgot about it for another several, and then jumped in when I compiled that crazy-*** list of book recommendations.
I enjoy reading OSC's forwards and afterwards. Though I remember disagreeing with his thesis on Center powers (in that afterward which mentioned Kenzaburo Oe's work).
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I found Hatrack because I like OSC's work. I found it thoughtful and imagined that the same would be true of Jatraqueros. For the most part, I was right. I was originally attracted to the 'All We Atheists' thread, read a bit and couldn't contain myself; got the shakes; had to post.
What I would like to know -- has anyone ever changed an opinion because of a Hatrack thread? I have saved a few threads that I put a lot of thought into. I reread one I started -- way back in 2001 -- on legalizing drugs. I found it rather depressing: the intransigent positions of most. Perhaps it was just the subject matter. Is enjeeo still about?
I still remember with fondness the Mac vs PC thread. What passion!
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Yeah... I have a confession to make... I've never read a single sentence of fiction written by OSC.
I read some of his criticism of Pomo fiction, and it made me not want to read any of his writing... for fear my pomo Gods will punish me.
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I fell in love with Ender's Game in (I think it was) 8th grade. I found this site after googling Orson Scott Card, when onto the parachat first, talked to some people there, and then registered here (under a different screenname then this one). That was like 2003 I think. But before I started posting here I posted on Ornery. Then I got sick of Ornery and came here and we've been living happily together ever since.
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Was actually looking for somewhere to hang my coats and scarves and, well, hats too, I suppose.
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quote:Originally posted by Kwea: I signed up because of OSC's comments in one of the Alvin Maker forwards. I checked it out right away, but I had never participated in a forum before...hell, I didn't even have a computer of my own....so I didn't sign up right away. Or at least I didn't post right away.
I kept logging on at my parents house using their computer, and I was impressed with the sense of community here.
Ditto, except for the part about logging on at my parents house.
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There was an ad for the Hatrack River website in the back of one of his books. It may well have been EG, but it's been long enough that I can't remember. I found the forum, saw what it was about, registered and haven't left yet.
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I really don't remember how I found the site. I used to read OSC's sites on Prodigal and then AOL, so I probably googled it. But Google probably didn't exist then so I "yahoo-ed" it I suppose.
What's really embarrassing is that I regularly checked Hatrack.com for several years (and even got email notices when it was updated) before I discovered the forums.
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* Liked Ender's game * Read more of OSC's work and found some of the right-wing/religious content a bit off-putting. Nonetheless, it was enjoyable/interesting enough to continue * Eventually decided to investigate more about the author and his beliefs * Found Hatrack, found it a good counter-point to my normal science fiction forum which is more technical and left-wing/non-religious in nature
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quote:Originally posted by maui babe: I really don't remember how I found the site. I used to read OSC's sites on Prodigal and then AOL, so I probably googled it. But Google probably didn't exist then so I "yahoo-ed" it I suppose.
Actually, Yahoo's search engine was driven by Google in those days... yahoo didn't have their own search program :)
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Hmm, I remember knowing that OSC had a place on aol, but I never participated in it. I think I went there once. I found the BML forums in the fall of 1998 and devoured the whole archive. I'm pretty sure I posted a bit, but I don't remember on what topics. And then the "new forum" started up and the rest is history.
Al,
quote:What I would like to know -- has anyone ever changed an opinion because of a Hatrack thread?
Not immediately, but over time I've begun to see some things differently, in part because of hatrack threads. Sometimes my opinion remains the same, but a thread causes me to look deeper into why I believe what I do. Sometimes my outlook changes because of other influences or experiences and I think back to a relevant thread. Hatrack has certainly helped me become a more thoughtful and well-rounded person.
When I think about it, I never even participated in most of those threads that have influenced me. So here's my (inadequate) thanks to those who have put so much thought and effort into composing their brilliant arguments and revealing so much of themselves: thanks, all!
Rabbit,
quote:How do you pronounce of "Hatrack"?
Hat-rack. It's a thing you put hats on. You know, a rack? for hats? K, thx.
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How is "Ha-track" easier to say than "Hat-rack?" I'd think it'd be much harder to consciously mispronounce something.
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I'd just finished rereading Ender's Game; I read it the first time in about 6th or 7th grade, then happened upon it again one way or another at school. Once I'd finished I though to myself, "There's got to be more books by this guy!", so I Googled him up and found this place.
Still, I don't post alot, only when I can find time.Ü
quote:Originally posted by Abhi: Yeah... I have a confession to make... I've never read a single sentence of fiction written by OSC.
I read some of his criticism of Pomo fiction, and it made me not want to read any of his writing... for fear my pomo Gods will punish me.
I think it's pretty amazing, actually. How many other authors web sites have members who've never even read their books?
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I found it a few years ago. Must be seven by now, it was in 2000. I was working on a book report where I needed some information on the author, so I searched a bit and came up with Hatrack. I thought it was really nifty and browsed a bit. A few months later I signed up here.
I kept continuing in the Young Writers section, but after its discontinuation resurrected this account and have been mostly lurking ever since.
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For me "ha" is a very odd and even difficult syllable to pronounce. At least it is when the "a" is like the one in "hat" or "apple". When it's like the "a" in "ah" or "omelette" (wait, that has an "a"?) it's very natural.
And, come to think of it, the "tr" in "track" is really pronounced more like "chr", at least in most American accents. Weird. I think it has to do with the asinine "r" sound we use.
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The "t" in Hatrack is more of a glottal stop than an actual t sound for me.
I found Hatrack by looking for it--I figured OSC had to have a website. I got hooked on "Uncle Orson" long before I ever ventured over to the forums.
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I was given Ender's Game and The Golden Compass for my birthday when I turned 14. I read The Golden Compass first, but the description for Ender's Game kinda put me off- aliens were never really my thing. But she insisted it was a good book, so I read it and got hooked. I finally got around tor eading the intro and the notes at the end, and he mentioned people on the forums at his website helping him out. So, I decided to check it out. And after lurking for a few months, I joined.
Uprooted, I pronounce it that way too.
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I heard about an Ender's Game movie and ended up here. I still stand by my original assertion that Haley Joel Osmond should get the part.
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Having owned several hatracks in my life, I say hatrack. I've never heard the word "hatrack"-- as in a rack you hang your hats on-- pronounced any other way, although I've heard all three pronunciations for Hatrack.
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