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Strider
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It doesn't take all that long to watch the WHOLE series!

[Smile]

[ March 02, 2007, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: Strider ]

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That's a downside for me. [Razz]
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In my opinion, the best part of it being cancelled is that it will never have any bad episodes!

Then again, it will be in the role of the television show dead wife, with whom no show can ever live up to, because it is idealized and didn't have a chance to show its failings.

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And, having so few episodes, it will escape the notice of future generations.

Oh wait - you wanted an actual good thing. [Razz]

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Now that it's been cancelled, its stars have plenty of time to devote to other masterpieces of programming like Standoff and Drive.

(although seeing Inara on How I Met Your Mother was legitimately cool.)

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Chris Bridges
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I'm holding out hope for Drive. There are a lot of other great actors in it, and it's helmed by mad genius Tim (Firefly, Wonderfalls) Minear.
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Pour salt in it why don't you, Strider. [Mad]
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quote:
Originally posted by Carrie:
And, having so few episodes, it will escape the notice of future generations.

Oh wait - you wanted an actual good thing. [Razz]

MY future generations will certainly notice it. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Bridges:
I'm holding out hope for Drive. There are a lot of other great actors in it, and it's helmed by mad genius Tim (Firefly, Wonderfalls) Minear.

If this is the case, then Drive won't be on long either.

Maybe Fox should send its "groundbreaking" shows straight to DVD from now on. It would cut some of the production costs, and they don't do so well on TV anyway.

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It was already starting to have bad episodes.
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Chris Bridges
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Compared to its best episodes, Firefly did have some that weren't as good. "The Message" is probably the weakest, with the biggest plot holes. But compared to the rest of television it was golden. And it still had some of the best, most quoted lines (and Jayne's hat).
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The Ballad of Jayne

He robbed from the rich
and gave to the poor
stood up to The Man
and gave him what for
Our love for him now
ain't hard to explain
THE HERO OF MUDSORE!
THE MAN THEY CALL JAYNE!

Our Jayne saw the mudder's backs breaking
and he saw the mudders' laments
and he saw the President taking
every dollar an' leavin' five cents
so he said, 'can't do this to my people'
'can't crush them under your heel'
Jayne strapped on his hat,
and in ten seconds flat,
stole everythng there was fit to steal--
THE HERO OF MUDSORE!
THE MAN THEY CALL JAYNE!

And her's what separates heroes
from the common folk like you an' I
the man they call Jayne, turned 'round his plane
and let that money hit sky
he dropped it onto our houses
he dropped it into our yards
he dropped it onto our neighbors
one chunk hit Clem Meadows far hard
THE HERO OF MUDSORE!
THE MAN THEY CALL JAYNE!

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Noemon
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Mudsore?
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Wasn't it Canton or something like that?
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I KNEW something was not right about those lyrics!!
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quote:
Originally posted by 0Megabyte:
In my opinion, the best part of it being cancelled is that it will never have any bad episodes!

*cough* Out of Gas *cough*
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Was brilliant.
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Strider
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agreed.
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Chris Bridges
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Can't help you there, I consider that one of the best.
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Out of Gas was *the* best.
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Strider
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you're on your own Joldo. Give up and join the masses.
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Joldo
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I like Firefly. I love it. I have a browncoat hanging in my closet. I dressed as Simon for DragonCon.

I just think Out of Gas is dreadfully boring.

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Noemon
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That's very strange. Maybe you're just an enormous Gina Torres fan?
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Scott R
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Gina Torres== *rowr*
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Those lyrics are wrong in a couple places. Since the title of the song is "The Hero of Canton" that part is inexcusable. It's also "The Magistrate" not "the President." and I'm pretty sure a couple other spots are wrong, but I'd want to listen again to make sure I had it right before correcting them.

Edit: I don't remember that part about Clem whoever at all. I think somebody was making stuff up.

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*confused* Wasn't Clem on Buffy?
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quote:
Originally posted by Scott R:
Gina Torres== *rowr*

::nods::

It is known.

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It is Truth.
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Off the top of my head:

quote:

stole everythng there was fit to steal--

I think that should be "stole everything Boss Higgins had to steal"

quote:
he dropped it onto our neighbors
one chunk hit Clem Meadows far hard

This shoudl be "The man they call Jayne, he stole away our pain/And headed back out for the stars"
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
Off the top of my head:

quote:

stole everythng there was fit to steal--

I think that should be "stole everything Boss Higgins had to steal"

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he dropped it onto our neighbors
one chunk hit Clem Meadows far hard

This shoudl be "The man they call Jayne, he stole away our pain/And headed back out for the stars"

Actually, the man they call Jayne, he turned 'round his plane, and headed back out for the stars.
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mr_porteiro_head
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I don't think so. That line is earlier in the same verse:
quote:
the man they call Jayne, turned 'round his plane
and let that money hit sky


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He actually says it twice, according to this source?
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I don't think so. That line is earlier in the same verse:

True. It is. As Tom Lehrer put it, the reason folk songs are so wretched is that they're written by the people.
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He doesn't say it twice, according to this, this, this, and this.

Interestingly, in that last link, you can see a video of Adam Baldwin singing the song from the DVD extras. He sings that line twice. I think he just got it wrong. [Smile]

[ March 05, 2007, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: mr_porteiro_head ]

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On listening to the clip from the episode (thanks, Chris!), I'll grant that you're probably right.
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quote:
Originally posted by Joldo:
I like Firefly. I love it. I have a browncoat hanging in my closet. I dressed as Simon for DragonCon.

I just think Out of Gas is dreadfully boring.

If this sentiment is not the definition of insanity or at least flawed judgment I am not sure what is.

Or perhaps you have grown up in space and frequently ran out of liquid oxygen to power your space vehicle and that episode was more or less what happened to you every time. I don't know.

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If this sentiment is not the definition of insanity . . . I am not sure what is.

I beleive the desire to have your genitals removed, cooked, and served to you followed by being killed and eaten is. At least according to previous Hatrack consideration of the question.
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Although, I must admit that my love for "Out of Gas" might not be as strong if I had not watched when it was first broadcast, and was still confused because I had been given almost no backstory, since Fox hadn't aired the pilot yet.
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quote:
Originally posted by Carrie:
And, having so few episodes, it will escape the notice of future generations.

Oh wait - you wanted an actual good thing. [Razz]

Well both my sons have seen most of the show, I have on occassion sang "the Ballad of Serenity" to my three month old to help him sleep. But maybe i'm the only one who thinks the show is okay for kids. [Dont Know]
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Poreiro Head
He doesn't say it twice, according to this, this, this, and this.

The third link that you wrote about has the different lyrics, which seem to me to be a bit of satire especially since they call the town "Mudsore". Perhaps Adam Baldwin did forget the lyrics and repeat a line, but I like it better that way! [Razz]
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I also think that "Out of Gas" was the worst episode. It was boring. It was a freaking flash-back episode (sort of) for goodness sake! I won't go as far as Joldo, though, and call it an actual "bad" episode. Just a "less good" one.
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Um... sorry guys I just got the lyrics by Googling it and finding it from another forum... I don't have the series on DVD so I couldn't double check the lyrics...
[Embarrassed]

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I'm a soppy and sentimental kinda guy, so I even feel 'The Message' is kinda sweet.

'Objects in Space' is just sensational tho.

Oh how I mourn the loss of Firefly.

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quote:
I just think Out of Gas is dreadfully boring.
I agree. The first time I watched it, I got bored. Upon rewatching marathons with friends, I'd take that episode as an opportunity to get pizza, refill drinks, or otherwise not be around.
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of that episode being considered boring. For me, the two most unengaging episodes are The Message (because of the plot holes Chris mentioned) and Safe. It's been a long time since I've watched the series, though. I need to rewatch it and see if I still find it less than stellar.
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I liked "The Message."
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The thing that really bugged me about The Message was that it felt to me as though the characters were being forced to behave in out of character ways in order to get the plot where it needed to go, rather than the plot unfolding because of the characters interacting and responding to situations in an organic way.
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Noemon: That's exactly why The Message is the weakest episode in my opinion. But if that's the nadir of the series, it makes me mourn losing it all the more.
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quote:
Originally posted by Koga:

Well both my sons have seen most of the show, I have on occassion sang "the Ballad of Serenity" to my three month old to help him sleep. But maybe i'm the only one who thinks the show is okay for kids. [Dont Know] [/QB][/QUOTE]

My almost 10 year old wants to watch it, and I'm not *quite* ready to go there. We told him we'd make a list of eps he can watch, but onlt when his little siblings are in bed and on condition he does not tell them scary Reaver stories. Of course, to make the list, we have to rewatch the whole thing...

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Yeah, it is partially allowable because they are too young to get it, though the older being almost two is starting to talk. My wife assures me i will never live it down if we hear a "gorram" or "ruttin'" out of him. So i may have to not let them watch it anymore for a while.
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