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BlackBlade
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*sings* Some people say my love cannot be real! */sings*
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Dude
Ozzy Osbourne is kind of cool
except for the drugs, but he's fascinating, and he has a cool voice.

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Artemisia Tridentata
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I'm a classically trained bassoonist. My usual evening listening usually runs to chamber music or "art" songs. (anything by Cathleen Battle) So, why am I enjoying this band that I found camping out in the little Nevada ghost town of Poinsettia. (really) You might sample "Old Salt Wells". (the song, the ranch burned down last month.)
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DJ Shadow
Amy Winehouse [Embarrassed]

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I would never confuse Ozzy with Black Sabbath, HOW DARE YOU!!!
[Wink]
On an alternate note, is there any music that you would laugh at people for listening to?

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Mine are not so guilty, but I get a lot of flack for liking them:

Dave Matthews Band

R.E.M.: "Shiny Happy People" and "It's the End of the World as we Know It"

Enya

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quote:
Originally posted by baduffer:
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Originally posted by BlackBlade:
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Originally posted by baduffer:
Disco

You sir are a bad person.
Exactly why I am a closet case. Even I think that.
I, OTOH, love disco and feel neither shame nor guilt. [Razz]

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Originally posted by vonk:
No declarative statement lacking in negatives can have 'Fleetwood Mac' and 'pleasure' in it. [Wink]

You are incorrect. And again, neither guilt nor shame.
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I thought of another one. Laurie Anderson. Very strange and almost completely non-sensical, but I've found myself very entertained.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by vonk:
No declarative statement lacking in negatives can have 'Fleetwood Mac' and 'pleasure' in it. [Wink]

You are incorrect. And again, neither guilt nor shame.
I can totally picture you, as a teenager, twirling around your room, a scarf in each hand, listening to Fleetwood Mac.
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quote:
is there any music that you would laugh at people for listening to?
I am completely boggled by people who like Joanna Newsom. I don't know that I would laugh at them, so much as shy away in uncomprehending fear.
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quote:
Originally posted by Artemisia Tridentata:
I'm a classically trained bassoonist. My usual evening listening usually runs to chamber music or "art" songs. (anything by Cathleen Battle)

But...but...Kathleen Battle is eeevil.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
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Originally posted by baduffer:
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Originally posted by BlackBlade:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by baduffer:
[qb] Disco

You sir are a bad person.
Exactly why I am a closet case. Even I think that.
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I, OTOH, love disco and feel neither shame nor guilt. [Razz]
How far thou hast fallen Rivka. [Wink]

[ August 23, 2007, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: BlackBlade ]

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Artemisia Tridentata
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Kmbboots, how can something that beautiful be eeevil? Unless you are using the "street" version of "BAD" and ratchiting it up several notchs. Her voice on my machine melts the butter in the neighbor's fridge.
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For me, her "not-niceness" as a person is too clearly audible in her voice.
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Well, if you need nice, last night I was listening to JoAnne Ottley. No skeletons in her closet. Her voice is also gorgeous. But, you might not have heard of her. Gossip makes Divas.
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I'll have to check her out. Thanks!

I find it inconvenient to "hear" certain personalities in voices. Pavaratti, for example, is almost ruined for me in operatic roles. All I hear is his ego. It is fine in concert or even in excerpts, but too much of him comes through. It seems to be about the voice rather than about the music.

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quote:
Originally posted by Primal Curve:
I can totally picture you, as a teenager, twirling around your room, a scarf in each hand, listening to Fleetwood Mac.

I don't think it was scarves, actually. But yeah. [Big Grin]
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Originally posted by BlackBlade:
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I, OTOH, love disco and feel neither shame nor guilt. [Razz]
How far thou has fallen Rivka. [Wink]
People who didn't live through the disco era don't get to have an opinion. [Razz]
*turns up Night Fever*

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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by Primal Curve:
I can totally picture you, as a teenager, twirling around your room, a scarf in each hand, listening to Fleetwood Mac.

I don't think it was scarves, actually. But yeah. [Big Grin]
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Originally posted by BlackBlade:
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I, OTOH, love disco and feel neither shame nor guilt. [Razz]
How far thou has fallen Rivka. [Wink]
People who didn't live through the disco era don't get to have an opinion. [Razz]
*turns up Night Fever*

What year was disco officially over?
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Disco will never be over!




*cough* Um, late 70s.

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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
Disco will never be over!




*cough* Um, late 70s.

Hmmm, just in time to kill the funk movement. How interesting. [Wink]
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Cheap beef jerky
Mac & Cheese (yellow death)
Cap'n Crunch
Processed cheese

um...

A few songs by ABBA
Queen: "Killer Queen"
Maroon 5
Bread

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I am completely boggled by people who like Joanna Newsom.
It's funny--because my first reaction was similar. How could anyone enjoy that voice, right?

But it grew on me. I saw her live and absolutely loved it. There was a complete absence of that "indie" snobbery in her performance. Her voice isn't affected at all--it's very real and her performance was so honest and heartfelt.

Aside from that, her music and poetry are incredible. Creative, different, and beautiful.

I guess it's not for everybody, and I'm not trying to convince you that you'll like it. She's in my top 10, though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nick:
I would never confuse Ozzy with Black Sabbath, HOW DARE YOU!!!
[Wink]
On an alternate note, is there any music that you would laugh at people for listening to?

Well, that's alright then.

Let's see... There's plenty of music that I don't personally like, but I don't laugh at someone just for having different taste. I used to laugh at people who would buy an album and then only listen to the one song that they'd heard on the radio, but mp3s and itunes have made the single-song purchase much more common. I may laugh if somebody takes their music way, way too seriously, and I tend to laugh when people accuse a band of "selling out." (Especially if it's a couple of albums after many other people have accused said band of selling out.)

Oh! Remember "Hit Clips"? It was an early flash-memory thing that wouldn't even hold an entire song so they would have just the catchy line or two and advertised it as "only the hot groove you love!" I laughed, do laugh, and will laugh at anyone who ever owned one of those.

--Enigmatic

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There's a few Eminem songs I like.
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CT mentioned early on liking Dennis DeYoung's Desert Moon. I thought I was the only person on earth who knew that album. Definitely guilty. Can we say, "Boys Will Be Boys?"

"Dirty Pop" by NSync

"Dancing Queen" and "I will Survive"

"Wind it up" by Gwen Stefani is one of my favorite songs on my IPOD.

And if any of you have even HEARD of the New Christy Minstrels I will buy you a CD of your choosing.

Ha, and I still listen to "Ice, Ice, Baby" now and then, just for the nostalgia.

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DaisyMae, of course I have heard of the New Christy Minstrels.

edit to add: and now I have "Green, Green" sstuck in my head.

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quote:
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On the other hand, my tastes are both eclectic and specific. I am driving "Pandora" nuts trying to figure out what I want.

Pandora just gave me a message saying it was taking "longer than usual" to figure out what I want and to please be patient. I will feel really bad if I have to ding the next song. It is trying so hard.
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Wow, kmbboots, I'm impressed.
I guess I should ask if you want that in amazon gift card?

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Things I listen to as guilty pleasures:
Avril Lavigne
Hanson

They're both fun, I enjoy them in the right mood, would never, ever claim they were good [Wink]

Things I would give people a hard time for:
Backstreet Boys
N'Sync
Brittany Spears

Course, if they didn't claim they were good and admitted them as guilty pleasures then I'd leave them be. Cause, you know, we all have em and mine are whoppers [Big Grin]

Things no one should ever have to consider guilty pleasures:
Queen
Simon and Garfunkel
Green Day

[Razz]

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Agreed on the Simon and Garfunkel. Cecelia may be the best song ever written. Queen, it depends on the album, for me. And as for Green Day, I forgive them nothing after Dookie.
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I just realized I do in fact have a band that is a guilty pleasure,

The Who.

The only person who can stand listening to their music with me is my brother, and he is the LAST person I would go to for approval on my music.

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DaisyMae honey, I think you get a pass. I am a folksinger (of sorts).*

Won't it be when nice songs like "Eve of Destruction" are no longer relevant?

*also, I am pretty old.

[ August 17, 2007, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: kmbboots ]

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Music I get flack for liking:

Bloc Party
Better than Ezra
John Mayer
Jason Mraz
Muse
Interpol
LCD Soundsystem
Modest Mouse
Backstreet Boys
N*SYNC
98 Degrees
Westlife
New Kids on the Block
Panic! at the Disco
Motion City Soundtrack
Damien Rice
The Arcade Fire

Oh, and most of all: ANY and ALL electronic artists. It takes a true music heathen to hate on electronica.

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Because I'm an actor I have several musical soundtracks in my iPod...so I'm sure I would get made fun of for that.
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It takes a true music heathen to use the word "electronica". [Razz]
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quote:
Originally posted by vonk:
It takes a true music heathen to use the word "electronica". [Razz]

If there's been a terminology update in the four years since I've been a DJ, I apologize, but last I checked, "electronica" was still the most accurate descriptor of "music that is performed on or influenced by electronic instruments."
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This is how I've always heard of electronica, and it's always been with disdain (from urbandictionary.com):
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Electronica:

A word the media came up with to refer to all forms of Electronic Music. Electronica is not a music genre. For more information, see Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. Google it.

or

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contrary to the ignorant public that only likes the godawful top 40 and rap-pop stuff, electronica is not synonamous with electronic music. there are multiple genres of electronic music (like there are genres of rock) such as trance, house, techno, jungle, hardcore etc. electronica is a genre of electronic music that encompasses "listenable" subgenres like downtempo and IDM.
But, ya know, it may be a regional or cultural thing. All the DJs I know get really annoyed when someone refers to electronic music as electronica.

I assumed when you said "ANY and ALL electronic artists", you didn't mean a particular subgenre of electronic music.

But to each his own. I claim no empirical knowledge, only knowledge gleened from those with more than I.

Edit: also, that second quote is a lot harsher than I would have said it. Please don't take it as an attack or insult.

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See, all DJs I know, when referring to all of electronic music, refer to it as electronica. They get annoyed if you refer to, say, electro house as "electronica." When speaking broadly, though, it's the only accurate term. People who get annoyed with it are just ignorant; it makes as much sense to get annoyed at someone saying "Nirvana is a band" instead of "Nirvana is a grunge rock band."

People who insist "electronica" is a subgenre may be right, within whatever region they happen to be occupying, but are silly to insist that their nomenclature is absolute. "Electronica" has been a catch-all since the days of Aphex Twin. It's a useful, accurate descriptor.

And it's way, way better than me asking someone "Hey, did you hear the newest set of Cassius remixes?" and them responding "Nah, I don't listen to techno."

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Agreed on the last comment. Not so much on the others, but that's cool.

quote:
When speaking broadly, though, it's the only accurate term.
How about "electronic music", which both you and I seem to use regularly enough, in this conversation anyway?

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it makes as much sense to get annoyed at someone saying "Nirvana is a band" instead of "Nirvana is a grunge rock band."
I think it would be more like saying "Nirvana is an alternative band." I get a little peeved when people say that. "Alternative" is a media generated term to catch all distortion using music that came out at the time. Not the name of the genre, which would be better describe as "grunge", as you have done.

Because the term has been used for a long time, does not make it accurate.

I blame MTV.

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quote:

Bloc Party
Better than Ezra
John Mayer
Jason Mraz
Muse
Interpol
LCD Soundsystem
Modest Mouse
Backstreet Boys
N*SYNC
98 Degrees
Westlife
New Kids on the Block
Panic! at the Disco
Motion City Soundtrack
Damien Rice
The Arcade Fire

Bold - Really? Wow... I like these bands, and so do many of my friends. Never gotten any flak for liking them.

Italics - Flak totally deserved [Razz]

The rest I don't know well enough to comment on.

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I blame indie culture. Muse and Modest Mouse especially are too mainstream for the people who pride themselves on being fans of the obscure. They're "hella played out," y'know what I mean? Personally, I liked them way back when and I still like 'em. Although neither of their latest releases really did it for me, I'm not ready to call it quits and say they suck now - and even if I was, it wouldn't stop me from listening to the old stuff.

My love for BSB and N*SYNC, etc. probably stems from my time spent in choirs and a cappella groups, since regardless of what you have to say about their music, both BSB & N*SYNC have talented vocalists.

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[quote]My love for BSB and N*SYNC, etc. probably stems from my time spent in choirs and a cappella groups, since regardless of what you have to say about their music, both BSB & N*SYNC have talented vocalists.[quote]

Fair enough. And to be honest, 3/4 housemates I had last semester were also fans of them. And they delighted in playing their music loudly and singing along, I think partly just to elicit the groans and growls that would then emanate from my room.

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quote:
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*turns up Night Fever*

Guess what came? The copy of the SNF soundtrack I ordered from Amazon last week.

*grooves*

[Big Grin]

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Well, I wasn't around yet for disco, yet I own an ABBA album...Dancing Queen!!
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
I just realized I do in fact have a band that is a guilty pleasure,

The Who.

The only person who can stand listening to their music with me is my brother, and he is the LAST person I would go to for approval on my music.

I don't understand; I love the Who and never thought to feel guilty about it. My first laser light show was a Who concert when Keith Moon was still alive. (I guess that ages me [Smile] )
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Yeah, I wouldn't place The Who as guilty music either. The Who are awesome, and timeless. I thought everyone loved them in the same way everyone loves the Beatles [Dont Know]
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Maybe it's the songs. I personally prefer,

5.15
Baba O'Riley
Join Together
Magic Bus
Pinball Wizard on OCCASION.

They are guilty pleasure because nobody I roll with likes em, and I be rolling with many. Obviously if I was in a car with baduffer and Alcon we could blast it. [Big Grin]

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*turns up Night Fever*

Guess what came? The copy of the SNF soundtrack I ordered from Amazon last week.

*grooves*

[Big Grin]

And the Grease soundtrack came yesterday. [Big Grin]
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Originally posted by rivka:
*turns up Night Fever*

Guess what came? The copy of the SNF soundtrack I ordered from Amazon last week.

*grooves*

[Big Grin]

And the Grease soundtrack came yesterday. [Big Grin]
Might I ask why, if these things are so great, has it taken you around 30 years to obtain these soundtracks? [Razz]
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Oh, I probably have cassettes of them somewhere. I wanted CDs.
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