quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Aaaaugh! "My family and I to begin...." *clutches head* Even in resignation, Gonzalez stuns me with his Not-Someone-Tom-Can-Respectness.
Sounds like it's a good time for he to brush up on the difference between a subject and an object.
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Dag is right: I think impeachment this late in the term is unlikely. Also, loyalty to Bush and/or Republicans in general is the most important criteria for the new AG. Anyway, the choice isn't between Chertoff and some Mr. Smith reformer, it's between Chertoff and some other Republican lawyers willing to go along with Bush.
Curiously, Gonzales can possibly still be impeached despite resigning! I didn't know this till this week, but resigning doesn't protect Cabinet Secretaries from impeachment. In fact, the only Cabinet Secretary ever impeached was impeached after he resigned (though he was acquitted in his Senate trial): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_W._Belknap
Impeach Gonzales, the most inept, lying AG in memory!
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Errr...I think people are missing my meaning. I think it's likely that there were things that the DoJ under Gonzales and White House have gotten up to that are clear high crimes and misdemeanors that will lead to people getting impeached and going to jail assuming that the AG post doesn't go to a Bush insider. With Gonzales resigning, this seems less likely, but I still consider it a significant possibility.
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quote:For one there are many, many, many honest people who care about serving the people and not just the President who do not see impeachment as either desirable or deserved.
I don't see how that makes any sense if you understood my comment.
In the scenario I said was a possibility, the honest person finds out new information in his role as the Attorney General. You're not saying anything about what I said.
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quote:For one there are many, many, many honest people who care about serving the people and not just the President who do not see impeachment as either desirable or deserved.
I don't see how that makes any sense if you understood my comment.
Quote the entire comment, Squick, not just part of it.
In the scenario I said was a possibility, the honest person finds out new information in his role as the Attorney General. You're not saying anything about what I said.
You said the appointment and confirmation of an honest, person who cares about serving the people and not just the president would make impeachment "a very real possibility."
I disagreed with your conclusion.
I didn't do a detailed analysis as to why. We've done that, gotten nowhere.
I don't see how you couldn't see how stating that you are making a huge leap and stating one reason why it's a leap - with an explicit statement that it's only one reason - isn't saying anything about what you said.
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quote:So you believe that there are honest people in the very upper levels of the Bush administration?
I think you're the one making a huge leap.
Yes, but you're wrong.
quote:And, again, what you first said didn't address what I said at all.
Yes, it did. Repeating it doesn't change that fact.
I'm sorry you can't seem to comprehend that people other than yourself are entitled to make posts that state only conclusions without making complete arguments. But when that's what you post, expecting more is fairly ridiculous.
Continuing to insist on something that is manifestly untrue in light of subsequent explanation is simply sad.
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