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Javert
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If prayer doesn't work, people might pray for god to cure AIDS in Africa. Waste of time? Yes. Stupid? I don't know if I would call it that. Certainly the person's heart is in the right place. And the average person could do little to personally cure AIDS in Africa.

Again, at least their hearts are in the right place.

Praying for a new car...that would be stupid. Sorry if that offends anyone.

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Javert,

Whether or not something is nice has nothing to do with whether or not it is smart or stupid. I don't think ancient Greeks were bad.

Why would praying for a new car be stupid when praying for a cure for AIDS isn't?

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quote:
Originally posted by Rakeesh:
Unless it's impossible for a Christian lawmaker to legislate for a moment of silence without that being true, that is.

The reason these suspicions arise is because the justifications used for the moment of silence do not fit with the proposed statewide mandate. A moment of silence is something for school districts to experiment with, not for the state to mandate. The fact that the lawmakers want a statewide mandate suggests an ulterior motive.
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Rakeesh
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The reason these suspicions arise is because the justifications used for the moment of silence do not fit with the proposed statewide mandate. A moment of silence is something for school districts to experiment with, not for the state to mandate. The fact that the lawmakers want a statewide mandate suggests an ulterior motive.
That doesn't make sense to me. Statewide mandate !=ulterior motive. It's a common method of dealing with any education proposals nowadays.
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Lots of people feel it's quite important to get some time for religion in the single biggest chunk of students spend on any one set of activities.
As has been noted numerous times in this thread, there's plenty of time for prayer and other religious activites in the school day.

This isn't about getting time for religion, it is a thinly veiled attempt to establish a governmentally mandated "prayer time".

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Whether or not something is nice has nothing to do with whether or not it is smart or stupid.
Unless it is smart to be nice. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by MrSquicky:
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Lots of people feel it's quite important to get some time for religion in the single biggest chunk of students spend on any one set of activities.
As has been noted numerous times in this thread, there's plenty of time for prayer and other religious activites in the school day.

This isn't about getting time for religion, it is a thinly veiled attempt to establish a governmentally mandated "prayer time".

There is plenty of time in the day for prayer and other similar activities, but beyond the mandated moment of silence, there is no attempt to actually set aside a reasonable amount of time for those things.
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If the student feels the need enough, they'll make time for prayer/meditation.
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There is plenty of time in the day for prayer and other similar activities, but beyond the mandated moment of silence, there is no attempt to actually set aside a reasonable amount of time for those things.
How long is a reasonable amount of time? Seems to me that that any moment of silence that secures a "reasonable amount of time" beyond what is a available already would fall into the "so long it interferes with teaching" category.

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A student can at most times during the day take a minute or so to pray. If your complaint is not that there isn't enough time, but that the schools aren't officially setting aside a public time to pray, well, that's basically my complaint.

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