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pooka
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Lieberman did, in fact, endorse John McCain this morning, which I thought was quite interesting. It was a joke that passed on News Hour back during the 2004 election, that most Americans wished they could vote for the party of Joe Lieberman and John McCain.

Of course, McCain is too sensible for the American populace, who seem to eat up anti-immigration rhetoric and don't see the difference between Rumsfeld's Iraq and the Surge.

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McCain is too flippant about the first amendment for my taste.

I'd vote for this ticket over all the Democrats who are running, though.

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Lieberman hates video games too much for my taste.
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No!
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My goodness, NO!
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McCain is the only candidate that I've met, but even his $2 tip on his $2.40 ice cream cone won't convince me to vote for him.
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Strider
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I generally like McCain except for his stance on net neutrality. And that might be enough to kill it for me.
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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by Dagonee:
McCain is too flippant about the first amendment for my taste.

I'd vote for this ticket over all the Democrats who are running, though.

That'd be a toughie. Because given that ticket compared to any other possible Demo ticket, I'd definitely want to vote for this. But... Lieberman is still Jewish, so voting for him would be against my principles. Ick. I may wind up tossing a protest vote to the LP.
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I would seriously consider it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dragon:
McCain is the only candidate that I've met, but even his $2 tip on his $2.40 ice cream cone won't convince me to vote for him.

Pfft. And he calls himself a fiscal conservative!

I wouldn't consider it. I used to disagree with McCain but I still liked him and trusted him personally. Since he's started running for president again, he's pandered too much to the extreme right for me to believe he'd be different from what we already have. In other words, I don't trust him anymore, and since he's frontloading the ticket, Lieberman is a non-factor for me.

I'd vote for any Democrat except Kucinich over McCain.

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Okay, what the heck is net neutrality? It was the only thing on issues dictionary that I really had no clue about.
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If the Democratic candidate was Hillary Clinton, I'd have to give it serious consideration.
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quote:
I'd vote for any Democrat except Kucinich over McCain.
What do you have against Kucinich?
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I realize the question isn't for me, but I find Kucinich to be way, way too far left to vote for. And my first introduction to him was reading up on how as mayor of Cleveland he helped the city on its way to bankruptcy.

To answer the original question, never.

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Only if they support same sex civil unions.
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quote:
Originally posted by pooka:
Okay, what the heck is net neutrality? It was the only thing on issues dictionary that I really had no clue about.

Wikipedia is your friend.
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quote:
Originally posted by Strider:
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I'd vote for any Democrat except Kucinich over McCain.
What do you have against Kucinich?
He's loony?

Joking. But seriously, while I agree with his positions at least 90% of the time, most of his goals simply aren't very practical or realistic. He also seems to have a hard time communicating his views in a clear and concise manner, and that's a serious problem.

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There was a time when I respected both McCain and Lieberman. McCain's posturing to the right wing of his party and Lieberman's hawkish view of the Middle East have eroded that.
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pooka
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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
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Originally posted by pooka:
Okay, what the heck is net neutrality? It was the only thing on issues dictionary that I really had no clue about.

Wikipedia is your friend.
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This article's coverage of a controversial issue may be inaccurate or unbalanced in favor of certain viewpoints.
Okay, I tried to understand a bit of it, and I will probably perservere tomorrow, but I have to say it sounds like a bit of gobbledygook that most voters would need reduced into something more compelling.
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I would have considered a Bradley/McCain ticket, with Bradley at the top. I've always disliked Lieberman, though, and consider his VP run to have been the nail in Gore's coffin. The guy's just a little lizard.
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To sum up net neutrality, with the necessary cynicism added in: telcos and cable companies want to charge companies like Skype and YouTube extra for their bandwidth (or, in a worst-case scenario, charge the users more for that bandwidth), to discourage people from using Internet telephones and getting all their TV from the Web. There are all kinds of reasons why this is a horrible thing, and only one reason why it isn't: libertarian principles.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sterling:
There was a time when I respected both McCain and Lieberman. McCain's posturing to the right wing of his party and Lieberman's hawkish view of the Middle East have eroded that.

Yup.
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quote:
Originally posted by Strider:
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I'd vote for any Democrat except Kucinich over McCain.
What do you have against Kucinich?
I don't like what he's said about how he would (or wouldn't) use the military. I'm no warhawk, but he's a dove in a gilded cage. To be honest I don't know the specifics of some of his policies, but he's always struck me as too far left, and I consider myself a liberal Independent. If in the insanely unlikely event that it came down to the two of them, I'd take a serious look at both, but I wouldn't be happy with either.

And this is neither here nor there, but his wife creeps me out. She has the strangest look on her face, like he's posing for Mount Rushmore, whenever the camera pans to her (which is also disturbing).

Funny story by the way, at the one debate where all the candidates had to turn to the person on their left and say what they like about them, Biden said the most hilarious thing I've ever seen a candidate say. When asked the question he said something to the effect of "The thing I like most about Dennis is his wife." Like Biden or not, he has a great sense of humor.

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Heh...Kucinich should have said, "there isn't anyone to my left!"

I agree with him about a lot of issues, but I think he would be a disastrous president. I did vote for him in the 2004 primary, though. The nominee was already decided and I think that Kucinich brings a great deal to the conversation.

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I went and read about Kucinich's wife after reading this thread, having never heard / seen her before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Kucinich

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Bachelor's degree in Religious Studies and Theology and a Master's degree in International Conflict Analysis. Her thesis for her Master's was on "Conflict Resolution in World Politics".
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In 1996 she went to Agra, India, to volunteer at one of Mother Teresa's homes for India's poorest children.[1]
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...she spent 16 months in a rural Tanzanian village and worked as an advocate for regional development. After leaving Tanzania, she volunteered with a British Red Cross refugee unit;[1]
Wow. I'd vote for her over her husband. She rocks.

(Oh and she's also a smoking hottie, as far as political wives go.)

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I have said before that I would vote for Elizabeth Kucinich before voting for anyone currently in the field. And not just because she'd be the most attractive president of any country, anywhere, ever.
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Wow; I wasn't aware of her at all, but on paper she looks like a pretty impressive person.
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I'd vote for a McCain/Lieberman ticket, but only if a Democrat is running against them.
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Too bad Elizabeth Kucinich isn't 35. Or American.
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I often wished Elizabeth Dole were running instead of her husband.
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quote:
Too bad Elizabeth Kucinich isn't 35. Or American.
She has a tongue ring. That should count for something!
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Lyrhawn
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quote:
Originally posted by kmbboots:
Heh...Kucinich should have said, "there isn't anyone to my left!"

Heh, they did make that joke.
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No, I would not vote for McCain. He is good for a hearty laugh every now and then.

I like his service, but he has lost touch with his credibility over Iraq.

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That would be such a weird ticket, I would vote for it if I was convinced the other ticket was actively destructive for our country. But typically no I would not vote for that ticket.

McCain is a really good guy, and he has some great ideas, but his take on quite a few crucial issues does not bode well with me. As mentioned above his views on net neutrality are definitely wrong.

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