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mr_porteiro_head
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I don't understand the appeal of sweater-vests, or any other type of insulating vest.

When I'm cold, it's invariably my extremities that are cold, not my torso. A sweater vest would not help.

Or are they merely decorative?

Why do you wear sweater/fleece/puffy vests?

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aragorn64
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The director of bands up at my university used to make fun of the department head whenever he wore a sweater vest. "I guess we broke the department budget, and you couldn't afford sleeves."

...

But now HE wears sweater vests all the time. Creepy.

Oh, and when I was growing up my grandpa would always get me sweater vests. I don't think I ever wore a single one of them, and had a stash of about five of varying sizes at one point in time.

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Launchywiggin
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I feel the same way about scarves and pants. Merely Decorative.
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The Rabbit
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Often your extremities feel cold because your body reduces circulation to them when it senses a drop in core temperature.

For many people, wearing an insulated vest is a better way to keep their hands and feet warm than wearing mittens and insulated boots.

Not everyones body works this way but many do.

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katharina
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I feel warmer when my hands are warm and my torso is warm. under those circumstances, I don't care about my arms - it feels good anyway.
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I will sometimes wear some type of vest when playing golf. It helps to keep me warm or dry while being less restrictive to my arms.
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I generally wear sweater vests when I don't anticipate being so cold that I want a full sweater, but I want something. I also sometimes wear a jacket in the same circumstances (which covers much the same area of a full sweater but is more easily removed).

I will also sometimes wear a specific sweater vest over a sweater if I think the choice makes my outfit more interesting, sacrificing added warmth for a particular aesthetic effect.

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mr_porteiro_head
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Yeah, but you're supposed to wear silly clothes for that sport. [Wink]
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I've worn down jackets w/o sleeves. They go *inside* another coat, to give it substance.
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Porter, do you wear arm warmers?
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when my hands are cold, I throw on a heavy sweat-shirt.

In no-time, my hands are warm again. The best way to warm your extremities is to warm your core.

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mr_porteiro_head
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When I'm chilly, I put on a flannel shirt.

When I'm cold I also put on a coat.

Why would you want a give a coat "substance"?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Rabbit:
Often your extremities feel cold because your body reduces circulation to them when it senses a drop in core temperature.

For many people, wearing an insulated vest is a better way to keep their hands and feet warm than wearing mittens and insulated boots.

Not everyones body works this way but many do.

Yup.

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Originally posted by katharina:
I feel warmer when my hands are warm and my torso is warm. under those circumstances, I don't care about my arms - it feels good anyway.

Exactly.

Porter, you're tall and gangly. Your extremities are far away from your trunk, so it makes sense that heating your trunk to warm your extremities would be less efficient that for some of us. [Wink]

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quote:
Porter, you're tall and gangly.
Well, not so much anymore. [Smile]

quote:
Your extremities are far away from your trunk, so it makes sense that heating your trunk to warm your extremities would be less efficient that for some of us.
Huh. That does make sense.
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quote:
Originally posted by Launchywiggin:
I feel the same way about scarves and pants. Merely Decorative.

I used to think scarves were merely decorative until I got one for Christmas and wore it on a trip to Canada. Now I wear it all the time, because I find it really does help.

And why on earth do you say that pants are merely decorative? [Angst]

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The Rabbit
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My husband's tall and gangly, and insulated vests (sweaters, fleece, down, etc) work much better for him than a full coat.

In his case I'm sure its not for the looks. He has less than zero fashion sense.

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quote:
My husbands tall and gangly and fleece...
I think you forgot a comma in there. [Wink]
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I am seriously considering acquiring a sweater vest or two.

I have a sports coat at work, but it often isn't warm enough and it doesn't provide an extra layer under my winter coat for the trip home.

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rivka
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Rabbit, I was mostly kidding.

Porter, my condolences on your shrinking.

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The Rabbit
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quote:
I have a sports coat at work, but it often isn't warm enough and it doesn't provide an extra layer under my winter coat for the trip home.
The traditional European style suit coat that covers your arms but not your chest is the fashion my husband finds hardest to understand.
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steven
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"Porter, my condolences on your shrinking."


My guess is that Porter is drinking a lot of goat milk. A little-known fact about goat milk is that it is very fattening. Literally, as I type this, I am drinking a Mason jar about 3/4 full of fresh raw goat milk, and it is tasty.

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Jon Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
Porter, my condolences on your shrinking.

I'm guessing he's had the opposite problem.
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The Rabbit
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
Porter, my condolences on your shrinking.

I'm guessing he's had the opposite problem.
I'm going to have to side with rivka. MPH clearly said that he was no longer tall and gangly. Since both tall and gangling refer to height and length of limbs, its only natural to assume that he is shrinking.
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mr_porteiro_head
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Liberal use of parentheses in this case would avoid these order of operations errors, and make our code easier to read.
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The Rabbit
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So is it

~(mph==tall&mph==gangly)

or (mph~=tall&mph~=gangly)

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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
When I'm chilly, I put on a flannel shirt.

When I'm cold I also put on a coat.

Why would you want a give a coat "substance"?

What do you think the flannel shirt does? Provide plucky comic relief?
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mr_porteiro_head
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It covers my arms.

And if I button it up, my torso as well.

And it's nice and soft.

And it goes well with my beard.

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I have long considered knitting myself arm-warmers for running and biking. Sure, I'd look kinda dumb, but I've never really gotten into the "running as fashion statement" thing. I run, I get sweaty and dishevelled. No amount of sleek clothing is going to improve that much, so I may as well be warm.

I myself do enjoy a nice buttonless sweater-vest over a dress shirt. It looks good on me. I've no opinion on it on guys.

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The Rabbit
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Arm warmers are great for running and biking. The leg warmers are great for biking but don't stay up well when running.

One of the great things about them is the flexibility. I need alot more clothes when I'm coming down hill on a bike than I do going up hill. Arm warms with vest make it easy to adjust for all kinds of conditions.

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Flexibility is good. If I could afford it, I would have 4 different pairs of commute shoes/boots, 3 different pairs of gloves and 5 different coats and jackets for all the various combinations of cold air, wind and precipitation you get in Minnesota.

As it is, for my commute I carry a wool hat, a balaclava and have a hood on my coat. And I'm thinking of adding my scarf to the mix as well. It's amazing how covering different parts of my neck, head and face with different thicknesses can greatly change my comfort (or discomfort) levels as I move between the outdoors in different locations and different buses with different heating levels.

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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
It covers my arms.

And if I button it up, my torso as well.

And it's nice and soft.

And it goes well with my beard.

And it gives your coat substance.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Rabbit:
So is it

~(mph==tall&mph==gangly)

or (mph~=tall&mph~=gangly)

That would be so awesome if we wrote like that.
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I guess sweater vests can be done right but they are one of those things that rarely ever are.

When I think about sweater vests I think about dumpy schoolteachers who also wear terrible jackets with leather elbows.

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And it goes well with my beard.
That explains it. You use your beard to keep your upper body cavity warm. (I am assuming a long and full waste length beard here) Some less facially adorned individuals need extra clothing.
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"I am assuming a long and full waste length beard here."

That wouldn't work since Porter's hobby is carpentry. I have a Mennonite carpenter friend who used to have such a facial adornment that you can see in old pictures. Since becoming a carpenter he's had to scale back the beard's full grandeur.

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I always assumed vests didn't really help much for warmth. Then I tried one on. After about twenty minutes I was boiling and had to take it off. Vests work.
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
It covers my arms.

And if I button it up, my torso as well.

And it's nice and soft.

And it goes well with my beard.

I find the first three to be true for me as well.


quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
quote:
Originally posted by The Rabbit:
So is it

~(mph==tall&mph==gangly)

or (mph~=tall&mph~=gangly)

That would be so awesome if we wrote like that.
>_<

No. No, it really wouldn't.

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