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Blayne Bradley
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100$ futureshop gift card. What should I get? I'm thinking games but I'm not sure which ones, mabbe guild wars.
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Do not get Guild Wars. It sucks.

If nothing jumps to mind, I'd say save it: inevitably, there will be some computer part or game you really, really want in the not-too-distant future, ne?

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Blayne Bradley
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Maybe a wireless headset.
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Pre-order Fallout 3, Spore, Half-Life 2 (Ep3 or Aftermath), DNF or a million other games that will come out reasonably soon.
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FTR: $100.
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Blayne Bradley
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I'm not going to preorder them, theres not enough consumer demand for them that there wont be any in stock by the time I go to the west island ot buy them.

And whats FTR?

Also I don't buy games that don't have a decent multiplayer. With the possible exception of spore but I can wait until august before getting it.

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"For the record."
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Actually, I've heard a lot of good things about Guild Wars, but since they're now working on a sequel, it might not be the best time to get involved in the original.

If it's going to be games, I'd suggest scanning metacritic for a genre that floats your boat and a game that meets your system requirements.

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Blayne Bradley
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No it is 100$

Logically on says One Hundred Dollars

Not DOllars One Hundred.

Yoda Not You Are.

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Common usage it is to put many monetary symbols before the number to denote the amount. Learned this in elementary school, I did. Talk like Yoda, I can if I want to. [Razz]
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When does it expire? Logically, games and hardware only get cheaper the longer you wait to buy them -- so if there's nothing you feel the burning urge to buy right now, don't.
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I haven't recievd it yet, but when i do get it I wanna be able to get something at first convenience, maybe Ill get the platinum edition of NWN.
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And to reinterate 100$ makes logical sense, $100 does not and I conclude that North America is doomed until they correct that bad habbit
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It's not just N.A., and it does make sense if you think about it the right way.
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I conclude that you are doomed until you learn the GOOD habit of spelling.

It's a wonderful thing. Really.

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In Europe the standard is 100$ they are clearly more civilized.
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Guild Wars was awesome. Good times.


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And to reinterate 100$ makes logical sense, $100 does not and I conclude that North America is doomed until they correct that bad habbit
Hatrack is the place lurkers feel too intimidated to start posting in because of how smart the regulars are. I think about this, every now and then.
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rivka
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Europe?

£850
€2

That Europe?

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It is european practice to put the currency symbol at the end of the number.
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Like the pound and the euro?
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The standard Canadian French always lists the dollar sign at the end.

i.e. 123,83$

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Are you saying Blayne prefers the Canadian French way of doing something? Astonishing. [Wink] [Razz]
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quote:
It is european practice to put the currency symbol at the end of the number.
well, yes and no [Razz]

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Position of the ISO code or euro sign in amounts
In English texts, the ISO code ‘EUR’ (or the euro sign) is followed by a fixed space and the amount:

a sum of EUR 30
In all other official EU languages the order is reversed; the amount is followed by a fixed space and the ISO code ‘EUR’ or the euro sign:

une somme de 30 EUR

from the European Union's Publications Office website.

so unless you speak another language, Blayne, I'm afraid you're wrong [Wink]

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I'm truly boggled as to what extent Blayne's posts invite them turning into this, and to what extent their turning into things like this has simply become as much of an inevitability as gravitational pull...
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quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
Are you saying Blayne prefers the Canadian French way of doing something? Astonishing. [Wink] [Razz]

The idea popped into my mind. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by The Flying Dracula Hair:
Guild Wars was awesome. Good times.


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And to reinterate 100$ makes logical sense, $100 does not and I conclude that North America is doomed until they correct that bad habbit
Hatrack is the place lurkers feel too intimidated to start posting in because of how smart the regulars are. I think about this, every now and then.
Thank God Blayne is here to make them feel comfortable when they venture out of the woodworks.
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[ROFL]
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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
What should I spend 100$ on?

100$ futureshop gift card. What should I get? I'm thinking games but I'm not sure which ones, mabbe guild wars.

Europeans also prefer to use sentence fragments, lower-case proper nouns, sentences that end in prepositions, and they insist on spelling "maybe" in creative, socially progressive ways.
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quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
Common usage it is to put many monetary symbols before the number to denote the amount. Learned this in elementary school, I did. Talk like Yoda, I can if I want to. [Razz]

Not all monetary symbols go before the number even in the USA. Dollars signs are usually put before the number but cent signs are generally put after. I learned that in elementary school. [Big Grin]

In much of the rest of the world, monetary symbols come after the numerals. I didn't learn that in elementary school but then in the US schools to learn about the rest of the world you have to read the foot notes.

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Actually, I've heard a lot of good things about Guild Wars, but since they're now working on a sequel, it might not be the best time to get involved in the original.
I love Guild Wars. It is a game you can jump into for 20 minutes, have a blast fighting, and walk away from. It is fun, intense, and not so addictive that it wastes time. It makes for intermittent short blasts of fun.

The average guild fight last 45 to 120 seconds. I do five of those and I have my fix.

Guild wars 2 supposedly takes the title system from Guild Wars and incorporates it in the new game.

Quote form wikipedia:

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Characters from the original Guild Wars campaign will not be migrated to play in Guild Wars 2. Guild Wars 2 will be a fresh start. Some of the items and titles will be available to players of Guild Wars 2 through a Hall of Monuments which is available to players who have Guild Wars Eye of the North. Names will also be reserved through this system.
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Europeans also prefer to use sentence fragments, lower-case proper nouns, sentences that end in prepositions, and they insist on spelling "maybe" in creative, socially progressive ways.
[ROFL]

[ February 12, 2008, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: lem ]

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As one of the acurséd Europeans, I would write it:

$100 or 100USD, but then what do I know? I would write also 100€ or €100, as the mood took me, but always £100. Is that the sound of an argument being shot down in flames?

Beware of generalising what Europeans would do, there are at least 15 independent nation states (I've lost count, and cna't be bothered to Google, sorry), and Lord knows how many languages - each with it's own rules on grammer, syntax and where the pesky currency symbol should go...

As for the $100 I'd spend it on some decent headphones.

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I believe most non-English Europeans also use adjectives after the noun. Should we also do the same so that we can be more civilized?

[Roll Eyes]

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I'm not giving up my standard wrenches and the dollar sign comes first.
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quote:
Originally posted by anti_maven:
each with it's own rules on grammer

Please tell me those are on purpose.
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Save it! Does it have an expiration date?
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I haven't recieved it yet, but I'm thinking getting Neverwinter Nights Platinum Edition so I can play multiplayer.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by anti_maven:
each with it's own rules on grammer

Please tell me those are on purpose.
anti_maven enjoys tweaking grammar cops.
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quote:
Originally posted by MEC:
I believe most non-English Europeans also use adjectives after the noun. Should we also do the same so that we can be more civilized?

[Roll Eyes]

Adjectives come before the noun in all the Germanic language (German, English, Dutch, Danish, . . .). In French adjectives come both before and after the noun. The only european language I know of which have the adjectives exclusively after the noun are spanish, italian and portugese -- which hardly constitutes most.
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That is why I [Hail] anti_maven.
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quote:
What should I spend 100$ on?
Buy something for me!! [Big Grin]

Or better yet, just put the hundred dollars in an envelope and mail it to me.

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I'm going to try to harass him into saving it.
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quote:
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I'm going to try to harass him into saving it.

Mom Alert! Mom Alert!
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it's a gift card, gift cards are there to be spent, not saved [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by The Rabbit:
quote:
Originally posted by MEC:
I believe most non-English Europeans also use adjectives after the noun. Should we also do the same so that we can be more civilized?

[Roll Eyes]

Adjectives come before the noun in all the Germanic language (German, English, Dutch, Danish, . . .). In French adjectives come both before and after the noun. The only european language I know of which have the adjectives exclusively after the noun are spanish, italian and portugese -- which hardly constitutes most.
Looking at a population chart, if you count French, and add in Romanian, about 200 million Europeans speak languages with the word order in question. For some values of Europe (see: EU), one could almost construe that as 'most'. Subtracting out the 60 million folks in the UK, it's pretty close. Add in the French-speaking Belgians, and subtracting Ireland evens it up a little more, too.

Oh, and what's word order like in the Baltic languages? I really don't have a clue. I guess it wouldn't make a huge population jump, anyway.

/devil's advocacy

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
Common usage it is to put many monetary symbols before the number to denote the amount. Learned this in elementary school, I did. Talk like Yoda, I can if I want to. [Razz]

Not all monetary symbols go before the number even in the USA. Dollars signs are usually put before the number but cent signs are generally put after. I learned that in elementary school. [Big Grin]

In much of the rest of the world, monetary symbols come after the numerals. I didn't learn that in elementary school but then in the US schools to learn about the rest of the world you have to read the foot notes.

I actually DID learn about some international monetary symbols that went after the amount in elementary school, and that some languages did it differently. But I also learned that in English, common usage is to place many (which is why I said many) symbols, including the dollar symbol, before the amount.

In the end, if Blayne wants to reject common English usage in favor of an alternate method that's his choice and really doesn't hurt me. But he should know that people are always going to be wondering why he doesn't do it the way that is popular in common usage.

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I suppose if you define Europe to consist only of those countries that put adjectives after nouns then all Europeans do it. Unfortunately that isn't a convensional definition of Europe.

French uses both adjectives both before and after the noun so you could just as easily put it in either category. Let's just leave the out for simplicity

All the germanic language put the adjectives before the noun. That's ~190 million people (including England and Ireland). Russian puts the adjectives before the noun as does Polish so I will assume that is common in the other slavic languages.

Even if you add in Romanian and define French to be in the after noun group, that group simply does not make up the majority of Europeans or European languages.

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quote:
Originally posted by MEC:
I believe most non-English Europeans also use adjectives after the noun. Should we also do the same so that we can be more civilized?

[Roll Eyes]

Comparing a syntactic issue to a stylistic issue is like comparing the issue of whether one should wear clothes in public to the issue of how to tie one's shoes.
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In Albanian the adjective comes after the noun, so I guess you can add a drop to that bucket.
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quote:
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French uses both adjectives both before and after the noun so you could just as easily put it in either category. Let's just leave the out for simplicity

But it's not that simple; you can't just stick an adjective either before or after. Almost all adjectives follow the verb. A handful of adjectives precede it. Thus it's pretty clear that French is, by and large, a language that uses postpositional adjectives.
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It's not uncommon to put an adjective after the noun in polish:

język polski
orzeł biały
olej rzepakowy
lody waniliowe

etc.

eta: apparently an adjective which is a constant or a typical feature comes after a noun, while a characterising (?describing?) adjective comes before.

[ February 12, 2008, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: Kama ]

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