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GaalDornick
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Orincoro, has your certainty of Jeb not running wavered at all? [Razz]
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Please run, Jeb. Bring Ted Cruz with you. Make the next republican primaries as much of a clown car event as last time.
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Not yet.
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Lyrhawn
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The "Draft Warren" campaign is heating up this week, especially following her stance on the "cromnibus."

She picked up a lot of support in a short period of time and she has all the buzz going in her favor.

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Your facebook circle of friends may be a little skewed.
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Please run, Jeb. Bring Ted Cruz with you. Make the next republican primaries as much of a clown car event as last time.

Why are you putting Jeb and Ted Cruz in the same car? Ted would be coming in the Tea Party car, which would make it a clown car event. Jeb isn't one of them.
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He's his own kind of clown, I suppose.
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GaalDornick
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Why do you say that?
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Lyrhawn
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Mittens is officially in it for 2016.

I don't know what he's thinking, but he's hiring staff.

It's going to be a really fun campaign season.

I may have to start up my 2016 Primary thread early this time around.

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It's quite possible he's in it (or plans to be) simply for image rehab or seat at the table purposes. Even taking campaign psychology into account, it's difficult to imagine he believes he has a shot.
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Hopefully if its enough Crazy(tm) it might drive enough Democrats to vote to flip the Senate again come 2016.
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Lyrhawn
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The GOP knows they're renting the Senate for two years. The numbers don't look good at all for them hanging on in 2016.

Rakeesh -

Have you read Double Down? Mitt Romney's super power is a super human ability to convince himself of things divorced from reality. His mindset throughout the 2012 election was bizarre. I think he absolutely believes he can win. I don't know what kind of power role he could envision. He represents a tiny, tiny fraction of the party ideologically.

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I'm not sure what Mr. Romney is thinking either. I don't think he can beat Hillary (Assuming they both just play the campaign out without unusual occurrences), and I wouldn't wish anybody the long incredibly stressful road that is a presidential electoral defeat. Mr. Romney is coming back for thirds.

He's basically Henry Clay all over again. But if I *had* to accept a Republican nominee for President. I'd take him over "teh crazies" and King George Bush III.

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quote:
and King George Bush III. [/QB]
I can see the campaign slogan next year "third time's the charm, vote Bush 2016!"
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quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
I'm not sure what Mr. Romney is thinking either. I don't think he can beat Hillary (Assuming they both just play the campaign out without unusual occurrences), and I wouldn't wish anybody the long incredibly stressful road that is a presidential electoral defeat. Mr. Romney is coming back for thirds.

He's basically Henry Clay all over again. But if I *had* to accept a Republican nominee for President. I'd take him over "teh crazies" and King George Bush III.

Come on now, let's not besmirch the legacy of Henry Clay.

He doesn't get much respect now, but as far as the history of American statesmen/legislators/icons, Clay easily ranks in the top 10. He was in the government for like 100 years, the US history books of the 19th century can't go five pages without mentioning him, and despite his never winning an election, he had enormous power, influence and experience that everyone respected.

(I know what you meant by your comparison, just trying to give Clay a much needed shout-out)

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Suddenly Romney is really concerned about rising income inequality, even though last election he called 47 percent of the country who don't pay tax moochers and said he wasn't concerned about the very poor. Last election he said it was about envy and class warfare; now I guess it's about giving a cynical and opportunistic liar a chance to attack the president.

Keep flip-flopping, Mitt. Maybe one of these days you'll say something you actually believe in.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
Suddenly Romney is really concerned about rising income inequality

quelle surprise
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I'm sure he's as shocked as we are.
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Reading that honestly made me feel a little gross inside. [Frown]
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I was about to write, "If you think reading it makes you feel gross, imagine how gross Romney felt saying it!" But then I remembered that robots don't have feelings.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
I was about to write, "If you think reading it makes you feel gross, imagine how gross Romney felt saying it!" But then I remembered that robots don't have feelings.

Robot or not, I expect Mr. Romney will at least publish some of his ideas, I'll read those at least.

But man, is it already 2015 and a campaign year again?

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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
Suddenly Romney is really concerned about rising income inequality

quelle surprise
I'm more surprised that is Fox News reporting.
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I was surprised that they allowed an editorial to insinuate this was only strategy and not, you know, people actually caring about the problem.

I was not surprised to see the first comment "With "the most Americans EVER unemployed, in poverty and on welfare," I think they have a pretty strong case to make." Surely it's better than 2009?

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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
He's his own kind of clown, I suppose.

I don't think I've ever seen you elaborate past your one sentence zingers on politics. What makes you think Jeb is unfit to be a Presidential candidate?
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quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
I was surprised that they allowed an editorial to insinuate this was only strategy and not, you know, people actually caring about the problem.

I was not surprised to see the first comment "With "the most Americans EVER unemployed, in poverty and on welfare," I think they have a pretty strong case to make." Surely it's better than 2009?

Or 1933.
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quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
I was surprised that they allowed an editorial to insinuate this was only strategy and not, you know, people actually caring about the problem.

I was not surprised to see the first comment "With "the most Americans EVER unemployed, in poverty and on welfare," I think they have a pretty strong case to make." Surely it's better than 2009?

True believers always make up crap and earnestly believe it no matter what.
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Looks like Romney is out.
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Hehehehe.
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Translation: "Romney, having briefly flirted with the idea of another disastrous run for President, was quickly able to secure the promises of top donors that, if he would politely decline to run, he would be in strong consideration for a vice-presidential nomination."


Here is a nice example of how incompetent the "cool liberal" press has become: Vice Totally Not Getting It. Romney doesn't want to run again. He does want to be vice president if Bush runs.

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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
Translation: "Romney, having briefly flirted with the idea of another disastrous run for President, was quickly able to secure the promises of top donors that, if he would politely decline to run, he would be in strong consideration for a vice-presidential nomination."


Here is a nice example of how incompetent the "cool liberal" press has become: Vice Totally Not Getting It. Romney doesn't want to run again. He does want to be vice president if Bush runs.

I would be very surprised. Very, very surprised. Not eat my hat surprised, but pretty close.

Carly Fiorina, on the other hand, is pretty obviously angling for at least a cabinet-level post or perhaps a VP nod.

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goddamn people

gas is back under two dollars a gallon, suge knight totally just stone cold murdered a man, and we're ramping up for a Clinton vs. Bush presidential election

if the universe is conspiring to recreate the 90's, then i want crystal pepsi back at least

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quote:
Originally posted by SenojRetep:

Carly Fiorina, on the other hand, is pretty obviously angling for at least a cabinet-level post or perhaps a VP nod.

*Wants to*. Not will. [Smile]
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quote:
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if the universe is conspiring to recreate the 90's, then i want crystal pepsi back at least

You say that, but you don't really want it. Nobody really wants that.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:

if the universe is conspiring to recreate the 90's, then i want crystal pepsi back at least

You say that, but you don't really want it. Nobody really wants that.
I very clearly remember crystal pepsi.

It was good.

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I was 4 when it was discontinued so I have no memory of it. What did it taste like?
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Mostly it just tasted like regular Pepsi, but I always thought it was a little more carbonated, a little less sweet, and didn't leave any aftertaste (which I think regular Pepsi does).

I preferred it as a kid and was sad when it was discontinued.

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My recollection of it is a clearer more citrusy notes with slightly less kola, but it was still predominantly pepsi
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
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Originally posted by Samprimary:

if the universe is conspiring to recreate the 90's, then i want crystal pepsi back at least

You say that, but you don't really want it. Nobody really wants that.
I very clearly remember crystal pepsi.

It was good.

You *remember* that it was good. That's what it does. It's craft that way.
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It was just a more citrusy kola nut flavor. I liked it! I did not like orbitz or surge. I liked ok soda though.
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
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Originally posted by Samprimary:

if the universe is conspiring to recreate the 90's, then i want crystal pepsi back at least

You say that, but you don't really want it. Nobody really wants that.
I very clearly remember crystal pepsi.

It was good.

You *remember* that it was good. That's what it does. It's craft that way.
It's Crystal Pepsi, not the Crystalline Entity.
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huckabee is a Credible Republican Entry for Republican President

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/01/mike-huckabee-same-sex-marriage-gop-presidential-2016-run

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I admit as an outsider to that particular culture, I get pleasure in seeing figures such as Huckabee struggle so ineffectually at trying to articulate their supposed status as an infringed upon group in the United States. That feeling isn't helpful to dialogue, but I rarely don't experience it at least in passing.
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I really do love the whole thing with a christian persecution complex. It's fascinating on many levels.
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His apparent logic calls for a) the return of prohibition, and b) severe limitations to the 1st amendment. So thats... um... yes.
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“In hindsight I regret contributing to the premature deification of Sarah Palin,” columnist Matt Lewis wrote Wednesday in the Daily Beast.

He added that “maybe her early critics saw some fundamental character flaw — some harbinger of things to come — that escaped me.”

maybe like how she didn't know that africa was not a country but a continent with a large number of countries on it

or maybe how she adamantly refused interview preparation and training for her on screen time with katie couric, and was just generally so abrasive to the 'little people' around her that staff members had an annoyingly consistent pattern of literally quitting in tears

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Sarah Palin > Rick Santorum

Even Fox News anchors had trouble with him.

http://youtu.be/XrZtlnsBq_Y

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quote:
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“In hindsight I regret contributing to the premature deification of Sarah Palin,” columnist Matt Lewis wrote Wednesday in the Daily Beast.

He added that “maybe her early critics saw some fundamental character flaw — some harbinger of things to come — that escaped me.”

maybe like how she didn't know that africa was not a country but a continent with a large number of countries on it

or maybe how she adamantly refused interview preparation and training for her on screen time with katie couric, and was just generally so abrasive to the 'little people' around her that staff members had an annoyingly consistent pattern of literally quitting in tears

Being unable or unwilling to name a single publication that she reads? Being unable to speak in clear, concise sentences? Having less political experience than literally every other governor in the country at the time?
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quote:
Originally posted by GaalDornick:
Sarah Palin > Rick Santorum

Even Fox News anchors had trouble with him.

http://youtu.be/XrZtlnsBq_Y

Its always a little bit amazing when a person like Santorum is essentially aware and worried about the impact of being forced to defend their policy exactly as it is, so they try to ... Carefully sidestep it and like in this case make DADT to be not what it actually is
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Even though it was a setup, it was fun watching him eat crow when the quote he agreed with was against racial integration. He then pointed out that black rights and gay rights aren't the same thing because, essentially, black people can't help the fact that they're black but gay people can stop being gay.
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i am completely 100% sure after he spent years being crushed down for his legitimately bigoted statements and legislative motives he chalks it up to being a poor oppressed christian held down by cruel secular society which is the real bigot

because, you know, that's what they do. even after they get called out for literally making the same arguments against gays that were once made against blacks to try to keep them intentionally persecuted second class citizens in any way possible

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