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Scott R
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Yeah, welcome back. Whatever.

[Big Grin]

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By the way, if you love sanity, don't click on Frisco's last link.
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quote:
Originally posted by MattP:
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Where does that stop, really?
At the point where the organization decides that it's a better deal just to pay the same taxes as everyone else. It's an entirely voluntary arrangement.
This is the key point. Boris, I linked to a page detailing the conditions of tax-exemption. I'm puzzled as to why you think the current restrictions on tax-exemption are tyrannical.
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I believe the desire to increase those restrictions is tyrannical, Threads. That's what people are calling for.
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Who?
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katharina
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The original poster of this thread, for one.
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Really?
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katharina
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Yes.
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I mean thats the actual post. Doesn't really really seem like much of a call to anything.
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Unicorn's various rants in this thread have been all over the place but I don't think he has advocated removing tax-exemption from churches. He did say this:

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I am fine with any and all Churches 'ENDORSING' candidates.

They pretty much do it any way.

EDIT: I'm sure you could find some people who want to remove tax-exemption from churches, but they are certainly a minority. I doubt there is any sort of constitutional standing for such a position since the government's position on tax-exemption for religious organizations is religion neutral. At least I'm pretty certain that's the case. Dagonee or some other lawyer could probably clarify.
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Personally, I'm rather fond of the idea of removing tax-exemption altogether, restoring free speech to churches, and cutting income tax to cover the difference in one big field levelling swoop.

But you're right, its certainly a minority.

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To clarify, I was talking about removing tax-exemption from just churches, not removing tax-exemption from all eligible organizations.
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I think that we should remove that particular restriction on not-for-profits. If a corporation is not-for-profit, it is not-for-profit. Whatever it says.

I do not think this lead to an improvement in either religion or politics, but it would be consistant. The current regulation is odd and awkward and almost impossible to enforce.

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I am all for Churches having Tax Exemptions. Doesn't bother me at all. Let them Endorse too. But it'd be nice to have a little accountability.

"Did we push for Bush?" "Yes." "It was the right choice, Gore would have been 1000 times worse." Ok. you're the one with the divine knowledge.

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UF, are you able to understand the church you are targeting in this thread specifically did not do that?
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quote:
Originally posted by katharina:
UF, are you able to understand...

*buzzes in early to answer the question*
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quote:
Originally posted by katharina:
UF, are you able to understand the church you are targeting in this thread specifically did not do that?

UF is wrong, but since a pretty fair fraction of the Utah Mormon's I know think that the Church leaders endorse Bush and the republicans, its hard to fault someone outside the church for coming to the same conclusion.
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You are correct, I am wrong.

total political nuetraliity it is

may the correct Lord forgive me

may my eternal burns from hell be medium

God Bless America

[ October 24, 2008, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: Unicorn Feelings ]

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quote:
may my eternal burns from hell be medium
[ROFL]


Second degree, at worst. I'm going to start including this in my prayers.

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...oh god, its hard to write I'm laughing too hard...
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