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My favourite ketchup flavour - which I've seen only at McDonald's - is garlic & chillies. Very, very nice.
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quote:Originally posted by JonHecht: And am I the only one who thinks the complaint is rather bizarre: "My friends would rather I didn't die! Oh, darn their treacherous ways!"
No. After reading through this entire thread, I'm with you. It's bizarre, and on top of that, too much ketchup is too much ketchup no matter how much you like it.
My brother had a friend who put ketchup on EVERYTHING, even a really good steak. My dad commented to him while we were all out to dinner at a well-known steak place that it would be great if R. could refrain from eating his meat with ketchup just this once given it was a nice cut/cook/etc., and R. had to ask why. That's when you know it's gone too far.
Everything in moderation...even ice cream, which is a blessing from above.
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I second R, why not put ketchup on steak? Its just a different kind of gravy, even better if I could put the steak between bread and cheese and maybe some onion and tomato.
I also make sandwiches out of everything.
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You shouldn't put gravy, for that matter, on a good steak either. Even A-l is stretching it in my book. GOOD steak, not run-of-the-mill steak. If you pay anything over $20 for a steak, no ketchup. I'd even debate putting ketchup on a cheaper one perhaps.
*le sigh*
Edit: Let the flavor and essence of the food have a chance to speak for itself!
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Another way of putting the rule: If you're going to slather it in ketchup, don't bother buying expensive food.
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quote:Originally posted by Traceria: You shouldn't put gravy, for that matter, on a good steak either. Even A-l is stretching it in my book. GOOD steak, not run-of-the-mill steak. If you pay anything over $20 for a steak, no ketchup. I'd even debate putting ketchup on a cheaper one perhaps.
*le sigh*
Edit: Let the flavor and essence of the food have a chance to speak for itself!
Exactly my thought, using too much Ketchup ruins the food.
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quote:Alternate flavors of ketchup just don't sell.
When I was a kid, we'd sometimes get a spicy ketchup that I really liked. Then they stopped selling it, so I'd make my own version with ketchup + worchestershire.
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When I was in Rome, my tour group was hooked with two smaller ones, composed of American highschoolers. I remember the moment when the complaints started about not having ketchup. If you're in Italy, paying a lot of money to experience Italian culture and eat really nice Italian food, shut up about the dang ketchup. It was very frustrating, and we could tell the waiters were unimpressed.
I quite like ketchup myself, but I also like being able to taste other flavours. I can't imagine dulling my poor taste buds like that. Ketchup has its place, and does its job marvellously. But hey, once in a while step out of the comfort zone and see what else the world of food has to offer.
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People are welcome to doctor their food however they like around me, as long as they leave mine alone. It does seem like a waste to me to put ketchup, gravy, A1, or pretty much anything other than salt and little pepper on a good steak, and if I were the one ordering and paying for the steak I might suggest to the person that they go for the hoof cut, since they aren't really going to be tasting the steak anyway, but if they're ordering it for themselves they can put whatever they'd like on it.
Similarly, I know people whose practice, when they have chocolate, is to briefly chew it and then swallow. That seems like a huge waste to me if the chocolate is of high quality, but as long as it's not my chocolate they're eating in this way, it's not my problem.
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One thing I hadn't considered is whether you can build up a ketchup tolerance. Maybe if you consume enough of it on a regular basis, it sort of fades into the background, or sets up a flavor baseline from which variance is still possible.
With hearing, our minds can filter out constant background noise so that we aren't consciously aware of it. We don't really "hear" anything until something changes. So after sufficient time you might not really hear the fan running across the room, but you'll still hear your phone ring, or a creaky floorboard.
There seem to be limits on the functionality of this selective suppression of perception. Above a certain decibel level, a steady noise is going to drown out everything else. I think most of us would equate a thick coating of ketchup to be something like a jet engine: predictable and constant in effect, but so *loud* that it dominates other notes.
Our ears are generally not resilient enough to stand up to constant jet engine-level input, so it's doubtful that we can really examine the question of whether high-decibel noise can fade into the baseline the way a whirring fan can. But if such exposure didn't damage our ears, isn't it conceivable that we could suppress that perception and still pick out the variations to enjoy other sounds as well? They might simply be ripples on the towering waves, but once we learn to cancel out those waves the ripples should still remain, right?
Perhaps Blayne's ketchup is the surging surf, but his tastebuds ride those powerful waves with such expert delicacy that they can enjoy the ripples and swirls that a fine aged piece of beef would contribute.
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I like ketchup, but people are always telling me that I don't use enough. I don't need to pile it on like Blayne, just a little dab.
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