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Tara
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-The dozens of notifications that are only ads for applications
-The quizzes that now display entire paragraphs in your news feed
-The top fives that fill up your news feed (and also give you notifications)
-Real-life conversations among friends that have entirely to do with something that happened on Facebook
-Seeing pictures from parties you weren't invited to
-Realizing that people you didn't invite to your party will see the pictures
-Wondering how many people will write "happy birthday" on your wall, especially now that the birthdays annoucements are now hidden under several other things on the right hand side
-Having to see awkward comments on relationship statuses
-Pretty much everything to do with relationship statuses
-Not being able to decide which favorite books, movies, TV shows, bands, and quotes to put in
-Getting friend requests from people you don't know
-Wondering if you should friend request somebody or if it would be weird
-Melodramatic statues about things you wished people had just kept to themselves
-Conversations people have on things after you have commented on them, leaving you with many needless notifications
-Hallucinating a red notifications flag at the bottom right corner of websites that aren't even Facebook
-Feeling like a stalker for looking at other people's information and pictures but knowing that everybody does it and people probably look at yours
-The cyclical New Facebook Design Resulting in Endless Series of Complaints From Nearly Everyone You Know (Honestly, who gives a shit? Also, clearly, people just don't like change)
-When significantly older or significantly younger family members show up with a Facebook and leave your with pieces of information you would rather have not known

It was cool for a while, but the combination of increasing discomfort with the awkward social situations it creates and the annoyance at the rampant capitalization of it (which seems to inevitably hit anything popular) has completely turned me off of it.

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I feel ya
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I'm pretty done with facebook because it's no longer facebook. It's now "We Wish We Were Twitter" book.
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Raymond Arnold
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Rampant capitalization of... Facebook? It's a proper noun, it's perfectly okay to be capitalized.

plenty of other things to be annoyed at, but still.

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Rampant monetization. Any underlying value has been there from the beginning.
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I utterly despise Facebook apps that require you to invite friends so you can use them.

I also utterly despise getting a notification, thinking maybe it's some important message, and seeing it's an invitation to participate in said apps.

IMO, there should be a Facebook light that retains messages, photos, groups, events, and messenger - but gets rid of all of the games, endless "about me" lists, quizzes and such, and statuses over 1 sentence long.

I also hate that others can upload and tag pictures of you without your consent. I was a very awkward 12 year old (who wasn't?) and prefer to leave my stick-think body, bad acne, and poor wardrobe tastes firmly in the past. Instead, my sister goes up uploads a whole album full and tags me in all of them... [Frown]

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Orincoro
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quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
I utterly despise Facebook apps that require you to invite friends so you can use them.

Which is why this is no longer allowed.
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Dogbreath
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
I utterly despise Facebook apps that require you to invite friends so you can use them.

Which is why this is no longer allowed.
O_O

How long has this been going on?

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quote:
Melodramatic statues about things you wished people had just kept to themselves
Not a big Renaissance art fan?
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quote:
Which is why this is no longer allowed.
Though, there are still many, many that require you to invite people to "keep up" with the game. For instance, a Mafia Wars family of 1 isn't exactly fun.
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Orincoro
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That's not the same thing though, is it?
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quote:
Originally posted by Tara:
-The dozens of notifications that are only ads for applications
-Real-life conversations among friends that have entirely to do with something that happened on Facebook
-Seeing pictures from parties you weren't invited to
-Realizing that people you didn't invite to your party will see the pictures
-Having to see awkward comments on relationship statuses
-Pretty much everything to do with relationship statuses
-Not being able to decide which favorite books, movies, TV shows, bands, and quotes to put in
-Melodramatic statues about things you wished people had just kept to themselves
-Hallucinating a red notifications flag at the bottom right corner of websites that aren't even Facebook
-Feeling like a stalker for looking at other people's information and pictures but knowing that everybody does it and people probably look at yours
-When significantly older or significantly younger family members show up with a Facebook and leave your with pieces of information you would rather have not known


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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
I utterly despise Facebook apps that require you to invite friends so you can use them.

Actually, Facebook wants you to report any apps that don't have a skip button/link that allows you to not invite friends.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tara:
-The dozens of notifications that are only ads for applications
-The quizzes that now display entire paragraphs in your news feed
-The top fives that fill up your news feed (and also give you notifications)
-Real-life conversations among friends that have entirely to do with something that happened on Facebook
-Seeing pictures from parties you weren't invited to
-Realizing that people you didn't invite to your party will see the pictures
-Wondering how many people will write "happy birthday" on your wall, especially now that the birthdays annoucements are now hidden under several other things on the right hand side
-Having to see awkward comments on relationship statuses
-Pretty much everything to do with relationship statuses
-Not being able to decide which favorite books, movies, TV shows, bands, and quotes to put in
-Getting friend requests from people you don't know
-Wondering if you should friend request somebody or if it would be weird
-Melodramatic statues about things you wished people had just kept to themselves
-Conversations people have on things after you have commented on them, leaving you with many needless notifications
-Hallucinating a red notifications flag at the bottom right corner of websites that aren't even Facebook
-Feeling like a stalker for looking at other people's information and pictures but knowing that everybody does it and people probably look at yours
-The cyclical New Facebook Design Resulting in Endless Series of Complaints From Nearly Everyone You Know (Honestly, who gives a shit? Also, clearly, people just don't like change)
-When significantly older or significantly younger family members show up with a Facebook and leave your with pieces of information you would rather have not known

It was cool for a while, but the combination of increasing discomfort with the awkward social situations it creates and the annoyance at the rampant capitalization of it (which seems to inevitably hit anything popular) has completely turned me off of it.

You should post this list on Facebook.
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Achilles
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I don't know. I complain more about Facebook off of Facebook than on it.

In fact, I don't think I've complained at all about it on it.

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The thing I hate about Facebook is the feeling of a never-ending high school/college/mission reunion. There's a reason I pass on those functions in real life, and they're over in a couple hours.

There are a couple people I've enjoyed reconnecting with on Facebook. But they're heavily outweighed by the legions of people that have sent me friend requests who I either never cared if I heard from again, or honestly don't remember.

I hate being the person who denies a friend request from someone who remembers me. But I also hate accepting friend requests from people I don't care about, and then having to hear about every time they go to the gym or bake a cake.

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Orincoro
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I'm sorry, I've never bought in to all this modern day ennui about the oh-so-inconvenient convenience of the internet. Perhaps we should all be adult and learn how to moderate our friendships digitally in the same way we do in real life. It takes adjusting and experience, but I've managed, very easily, to make facebook work for me in a way that I feel comfortable. They didn't program all that customization and privacy control into the interface for nothing. Use it, and stop whining everyone- 10 years ago you would probably have payed good money for such a service.
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
10 years ago you would probably have payed good money for such a service.

Nah. I would have felt more virtuous about not using it than I do now, but I wouldn't have used it then any more than I do now.

Besides, this is Hatrack. Whining about things that bug us is what we DO!

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Orincoro
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Just saying. Whining about social networking is a bit... passe.
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I've accepted friend requests from people I didn't really want to, then I hide their comments on my news feed. I never have to see any of their updates and it takes one click to hide somebody.

I use Facebook to keep up with what is going on at church, keep connected and network with other teachers, especially people I graduated with. It's great, but you do have to control it so you are not inundated with stuff you do not care about.

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Raymond Arnold
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I have to agree - pretty much anything you don't like on facebook can be hidden away easily. You'll still have to deal with them fie first time they come up but after that it shouldn't bother you anymore.

I'm not sure if quizzes count as a single application though. That might be a problem.

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Can you choose to ignore someone and not have them know you're ignoring them?

Also, when you ignore all the thousands of superpokes and requests, does the person who sent them get notified?

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quote:
Originally posted by advice for robots:
Can you choose to ignore someone and not have them know you're ignoring them?

Also, when you ignore all the thousands of superpokes and requests, does the person who sent them get notified?

To the first question, yes, you can set your attention to any friend or group of friends, and it will not notify anyone that you have done so.

To the second one no, although they may notice that you never accept any of their requests, even though they have sent them to you.

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Apparently Iran agrees...
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I am friends with people I don't want to alienate who seem very immature to me. Like office managers at the dance school who play "Sorority Life" and "Pet Society". I hide what I can from my newsfeed but don't want to hide the people.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tara:
-The quizzes that now display entire paragraphs in your news feed
-The top fives that fill up your news feed (and also give you notifications)


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Orincoro, thanks.
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I had a known child molester from high school try to friend me. I guess he forgot I was the one who caught him and turned him in (not that it did any good).
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Yeesh. Creepy.
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Maybe he did remember and he was being obnoxious by trying to rub it in that he was still free and not in jail where he should be.
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For the people looking to do away with the quizzes as a whole: And, actually, all external applications:

http://tinyurl.com/pblm3z

It's a Firefox/Chrome add-on with an additional script. And it works beautifully. My friends' page hasn't looked this clean and simple in a good long while.

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Oh, nice.
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There is a new facebook group asking for an option to hide all quizes: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=104272021560&ref=nf

I don't know how effective such efforts are, but it might at least serve as a subtle hint to your quiz-happy friends if you join it and it shows up in their news feed.

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I am sick of seeing how many individuals have 1200 photographs on facebook. If it's the same photo but from an angles that varies about 1 degree, how about choose one of the ten instead of all 10?

I am sick of seeing people pull out their cameras at bars and parties, knowing they're only doing it so they can post it on facebook later.

I feel icky any time a wife complains about her husband on Facebook. (thinking about it, i never see husbands do this about their wives)

I dislike how social networking has destroyed the testicle growing moment of having to walk up and ask a girl out. Now you just ask her on facebook.

I find it amusing that Facebook is the new TV for evangelists. "I found Jesus through Twitter!" I've found several people mention that "You're not a real Christian if..."

I find it ironic that the only thing the Millenials will ever be able to do as far as writing movies is xerox old ones, or eventually write a facebook movie. But there are no Quentin Taratino's, Kevin Smith's, Wes Anderson's, or M. Knight Shalayaman amongst this batch.

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quote:
Originally posted by Danlo the Wild:


I find it ironic that the only thing the Millenials will ever be able to do as far as writing movies is xerox old ones, or eventually write a facebook movie. But there are no Quentin Taratino's, Kevin Smith's, Wes Anderson's, or M. Knight Shalayaman amongst this batch.

What?
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Who?
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quote:
Originally posted by Tresopax:
Apparently Iran agrees...

If you don't use facebook you help support terrorism!

aiua, thank you so much, you've just made my life a whole lot better.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tara:
quote:
Originally posted by Danlo the Wild:


I find it ironic that the only thing the Millenials will ever be able to do as far as writing movies is xerox old ones, or eventually write a facebook movie. But there are no Quentin Taratino's, Kevin Smith's, Wes Anderson's, or M. Knight Shalayaman amongst this batch.

What?
It you check the standings, there is a big black hole over the last 8 years of filmmakers who have an actual voice, there has yet to be a filmmaker from this generation, and we're 8 years into it.
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:sigh:

Was Quentin Tarantino, to use your example, known as a breakout film maker on the day he completed his first film? No. He wasn't.

You are not in a position to know how the present will define the future. Your daily experience does not encompass the universe. You are not that special, excepting for the fact that you sit around and whine about nonexistent problems that most people would pay good money to have the luxury of worrying about, and I think most people would spend that time, I don't know, making a film or going to school- you know, because their generation clearly needs someone like them to save it from itself.

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quote:
Originally posted by Danlo the Wild:
quote:
Originally posted by Tara:
quote:
Originally posted by Danlo the Wild:


I find it ironic that the only thing the Millenials will ever be able to do as far as writing movies is xerox old ones, or eventually write a facebook movie. But there are no Quentin Taratino's, Kevin Smith's, Wes Anderson's, or M. Knight Shalayaman amongst this batch.

What?
It you check the standings, there is a big black hole over the last 8 years of filmmakers who have an actual voice, there has yet to be a filmmaker from this generation, and we're 8 years into it.
And that's because of Facebook?
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Ugh, Thor. Come on. If you don't know any intelligent, individual filmmakers under the age of, say, thirty, you're looking in the wrong places. Just because people aren't in Hollywood making big-budget horror and action doesn't mean they aren't making great films.

Most people with other things on their minds use Facebook as a tool for contacting and keeping track of the complex network of friends and acquaintances that "Millenials", in a highly mobile, globally linked world, have.

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Oh common teshi- everybody had them before. We called it a Rolodex?

I'm constantly bemused at the "revolutionary" new attitudes of the "millenials," and all the "new ways" that they "communicate." Pen pals, social networks, clubs, listings of personal information for social or political reasons (remember "Who's Who?") have all been around for time immemorial. Facebook is not all that new, it's just online.

Hell, some of you have been posting on this forum for a decade, and yet you dane to shake your heads at youngsters with facebook pictures? I'm sorry, but every six months the death knell of civilization is sounded by a slight variation on the things people have been doing for all time. I've yet to be surprised, only occasionally impressed.

Just pick up "The Sun Also Rises," sometime. Then, as your reading about the people and their social circles, imagine they are getting their information from facebook, instead of sending letters to each other and arranging to meet each other by telephone. Things are exactly as they would be today. Seriously. No difference.

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For someone who tends to go on at length about nuance, it's amusing that you'd assert there's "no difference" between Facebook and written correspondence.
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Thank you for asking that nuanced question. I should have been more clear- of course the actual correspondence was different in detail, as was the way it actually worked, but the story itself would not be any different at all if you just replaced the way people communicated then with the way they do now. I mean to say that I was surprised reading it realize that the story was not at all dated in the way that people actually related to each other. Yes, they weren't doing facebook wall posts, but actually they were doing a variety of things that effected their social interactions in all the same ways. Thus, no difference in the story. Perhaps that makes more sense?
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Nor did I mean to suggest for a moment that the only difference between Facebook communication and snail mail is the medium.
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Wow, Orincoro. I didn't exclude people in the past from having friends around the world, I'm just including the "Millenials", so-called, as having this particular method of communication for their particular brand of round-the-worldness.

:|

And Orincoro, I believe I am approximately your age [Smile] . Whatever you're reading into my post, it's not there.

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No, Teshi, I realize that. I just think that characterizing the younger generation of today (millennial being perhaps our age or younger) as more connected or worldly than any other because of these tools of communication is missing something. I don't tend to believe it myself. I still think a person's actual worldliness, by which I mean their comfort with and first hand knowledge of a range of cultures and lifestyles and places, still depends largely on class and social position, education, etc. The world is as big as it ever was, I think- but we seem to be constantly reminded by these aphorisms and mantras played out in the news, that our world is somehow getting smaller because of new technologies. I buy it a little, but never to the extent that people seem to want to sell the idea. I'm not hostile to what you said, I just think it's a popular thing to say that doesn't really ring true to me.

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Nor did I mean to suggest for a moment that the only difference between Facebook communication and snail mail is the medium.
Of course not. But I'm becoming less and less of the opinion, perhaps only because facebook rules my life less and less than it did before (ie, when I was in college and geographically close to all my friends to begin with) that the power of the medium has been overblown. Communication capability has been advanced powerfully, but actual quality of communication, or the actual long term effects of communication, I suspect, are not very different at all. I tend to think we seek a comfortable level no matter what medium we use- so we end up using the new media in most of the same ways we used the old media.

I believe it was Douglas Adams who postulated that the basic functions of communication will never be fundamentally altered by technology, because we are unable to conceive of our relationships with that communication in fundamentally new ways. The media appear to change, but in fact they mostly stay the same- they mostly attempt to do the same things, and we never actually allow them to operate outside their desired functions for very long.

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I just think that characterizing the younger generation of today (millennial being perhaps our age or younger) as more connected or worldly than any other because of these tools of communication is missing something.
No, I meant the other way around. We use Facebook to keep control of those connections. We don't have them because of Facebook.

That said, I have met people on the internet and subsequently met them that I never, ever would have met in another era. Many of those people now have on Facebook.

EDIT: Man, this is my 7777th post. Did people write this many letters on this many topics to this many people in 1900?

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Common, dane...you're just trying to get a reaction aren't you Orincoro?

Anyway I think Facebook compresses the world but mainly by flattening.

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