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Tstorm
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I just had a humorous, yet annoying encounter with some of my neighbors.

I don't know these people. It's entirely possible that they'll move out before we even introduce ourselves. They moved in while I was out of town and we've hardly seen each other. I'm reasonably sure they know me, or at least, they know that I live in this particular apartment.

Because of the way the apartments are arranged, my neighbors frequently stand outside my living room windows and talk. I don't try to follow the conversation, but I can hear the doors opening, the voices, the flicking of lighters, and pretty much all the other sounds they make.

Some noises just grab my attention. My brain discards practically everything from practice, but sometimes I'll hear one of those noises that begs investigation. For example: something shattering/breaking or anything hitting the building(s). I just heard one of those noises. I couldn't classify it.

I went outside, in shorts, with a flashlight. Three people are standing there, but there's no obvious source for the noise. I flick on the flashlight to look around and I ask them what the noise was.

Girl: "Nothing, probably a car horn."
ME: "I thought I heard something hit the building."
Respectful guy: "Nope, no sir."

I decide to investigate in the morning. I turned around and went straight back inside. It's a small apartment, so I enter through the only door, into my living room. I can hear them talking.

(dis)Respectful guy, in a mocking voice, with much bravado: "I'm just a #$&!. I thought I heard an *&&$#!"

This goes on for half a minute or so, and I listen with wry amusement to his mildly intoxicated bluster to his friends.

I walk over to the window and bend down toward the opening, and say, "I also have my window open and I can hear every word you say out there."

(cue the other people laughing at him.)

(suddenly)Respectful guy: "Oh no, I didn't mean that at all! I wasn't talking about you! I swear to (diety) that wasn't the case!"

There was no need to say anything else or acknowledge him.

While his friends chuckled, he said things under his breath immediately after that, which I shall not attempt to replicate on this family forum. [Smile] [Smile]

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paigereader
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At least your neighbors are slightly more respectful then my neightbors that let their hormonal 13 yr old daughter run around all night long. And way more respectful than another neighbor that fired off 2 gun shots at 3 o'clock in the morning last week. That lady is 17 kinds of crazy!
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Its better than some of my old neighbor's, once they left blood on the concrete outside my apartment. Wether it was intended for me, or if it was thier own blood is entirely unknown though.

Whats worse is a couple of weeks earlier one uselessly friendly neighbor starts this conversation with "Hey if you the cops show up dont worry, someone broke into my apartment and stole my gun" we then wieghed the consequances of unintentionally informing the police that his father (ex-con, therefore dissallowed from living in a home with a fire-arm) was living with him. Mocking isnt so bad, especially if you get to embarrass him like you did.

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quote:
Originally posted by paigereader:
At least your neighbors are slightly more respectful then my neightbors that let their hormonal 13 yr old daughter run around all night long. And way more respectful than another neighbor that fired off 2 gun shots at 3 o'clock in the morning last week. That lady is 17 kinds of crazy!

If she had made one more shot she would have been a red neck cuckoo clock.
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Tstorm
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Oh, I wasn't complaining. I was just relaying the story. I've had worse neighbors, but the stories aren't really any fun to recall.
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Achillesheel, I think that's the funniest thing I've heard in months.

Not that it matters, but was that totally original with you, or did you hear something like that before?

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My crazy and violent neighbours are documented here.
http://www.hatrack.com/cgi-bin/ubbmain/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=054233;p=1&r=nfx#000000

The good thing is they got evicted after the landlord did an appeal to some sort of housing board and after I wrote a pretty scathing but truthful letter describing my experiences (as evidence for that board).

I'm moving anyways though. But I feel satisfaction. (Sorta)

Still felt bad because they left practically all of their stuff (furniture, clothes, food, electronics, etc.) and the landlord had to simply throw it all out. Why leave your stuff, especially if you are poor?

I don't really understand that.

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That's why I finally decided to buy a single family home. I lived in 3 apartments with my wife before:

Apartment #1
Watch pimp escort Johns to neighbor's room all night long.

Apartment #2
Dragged out of bed at 2 AM by police at gunpoint because 911 could only isolate the stabbing to five apartments, including mine.

Apartment #3
Listen to daily domestic disputes followed by loud parties or banging sex against the wall.

I love having my own home.

[ October 02, 2009, 01:43 AM: Message edited by: malanthrop ]

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Selfishly, this thread makes me feel alot better about living above a bunch of wanna-be rappers who keep me up all night partying and then play the same obnoxious beat everyday at 1pm (like clockwork) when I try to take a nap.

However, its still more annoying than some old neighbors I had who used to get into crazy, scary fights over stupid things like pizza. When it happened it was always insane and intense, but it was so sporadic that when they did fight, it was almost like entertainment. It was easy to laugh off.

These rapper guys are slowing eating away at my patience. I wouldn't mind the occasional knock-down wild party. I'd laugh it off, watch a late night movie and get over it. But mini-parties EVERY SINGLE NIGHT and beat sessions every afternoon are wearing me down bit by bit.

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I had a set of loud sex neighbors. Their bedroom was right against mine so there was no real avoiding the noise in a 1 bedroom (especially since it was sometimes loud enough to hear in my living room). After the third night in a row I left them a brief but polite letter explaining that they could be heard in other people's apartments, and that while I didn't want to involve the courtesy officer or report them for violating the building quiet hours (I LOVE apartments with stated quiet hours) that if it continued to keep me awake, I would have to do something.

They got quiet after that.

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Better than the other possible outcome--them starting earlier in the evening and being louder just out of spite.

Or, even worse, starting at 6am.

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My roomies were the loud sex people. They left the windows of the apartment open and were very loud. In an attempt to avoid the noise, another roomie and I walked around the apartment. It wasn't until we walked past the pool to the laundry room with a dryer on that we were able to not hear them.
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I've never really had to many problems with my neighbors. One of them smoked pot upstairs and we had a few jam sessions on guitars together before other neighbors got him evicted, I was kinda sad about that.

And the neighbors who lived right above us who for some reason felt the need to pick up their heavy furniture and drop it periodically every day.

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You don't do that too, BlackBlade? It's important to properly stress test your furniture.
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
And the neighbors who lived right above us who for some reason felt the need to pick up their heavy furniture and drop it periodically every day.

Sure they didn't have a trampoline and/or weight bench?
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
And the neighbors who lived right above us who for some reason felt the need to pick up their heavy furniture and drop it periodically every day.

Oh man, I can't believe we were next door neighbors!

Seriously, though, there was this old woman who lived upstairs at our apartment a few years ago that seemed to rearrange/bang her furniture around every afternoon. And then every Sunday morning we got to hear Pat Robertson at full blast. Fun times.

We own a townhome now, but even though the connected unit is apparently home to 5 adults, we never hear them. Hurray for proper insulation.

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quote:
Originally posted by andi330:
I had a set of loud sex neighbors. Their bedroom was right against mine so there was no real avoiding the noise in a 1 bedroom (especially since it was sometimes loud enough to hear in my living room). After the third night in a row I left them a brief but polite letter explaining that they could be heard in other people's apartments, and that while I didn't want to involve the courtesy officer or report them for violating the building quiet hours (I LOVE apartments with stated quiet hours) that if it continued to keep me awake, I would have to do something.

They got quiet after that.

Good for you, but that just sucks for them, poor guy finally gets a screamer and WHAM.
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By the time I was 23 I realized I would opt for many things circumstantial poverty, terrible commute, radon poisoning, whatever in order to have my own home rather than live in an apartment.

Fortunately, I live the life of riley, with any car or place of residence situation I want simply provided for me by my family. I have never had to deal with an apartment or roomates situation. :/

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TomDavidson
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Can your family buy me a car? I wouldn't mind a new car.
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Sorry, the rules are you're not deserving of it for the arbitrary virtue of not having been born to a rich family.
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Aw, shoot. [Frown] Immediately after birth, I knew I'd done something wrong, but I couldn't figure it out.
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Tom, might I suggest a second option? Marry well. Ideally the spouse will personally have money, but a spouse having a generous father mostly works. As long as they get along. For example, I got a car as a wedding present from my father in law. My youngest brother in law also got a nice car because he was away at college all by himself after we moved. The middle one, otoh, got a beat up, 20 year old van with 0 trade in value. Marrying the middle one is pretty much useless.
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quote:
Originally posted by SamPrimary
By the time I was 23 I realized I would opt for many things circumstantial poverty, terrible commute, radon poisoning, whatever in order to have my own home rather than live in an apartment.

Hehe. By the time I was 26, I realized that a convenient location in a decent neighborhood would be worth more to me than my own property to maintain.
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I don't know. A house is just ... well, it's aces. I have a puppy I wouldn't dare keep cooped up in an apartment. No roomates = way less stress in life. The other advantages including the simultaneous freedom from/to loud sex are well documented.
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If a house is aces, then I propose renting is the equivalent of wild cards. Never know what you're going to get.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
And the neighbors who lived right above us who for some reason felt the need to pick up their heavy furniture and drop it periodically every day.

Sure they didn't have a trampoline and/or weight bench?
A trampoline, it could not be unless my neighbors are jumping trees.
A weight bench? Perhaps, I suppose, but why they drop their weights who knows?
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Samprimary: I was born into a well to do family, but they feel the need to instill in me the lessons of hard work, and personal responsibility. Could you get me a new car since they won't?

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Fortunately, I live the life of riley, with any car or place of residence situation I want simply provided for me by my family. I have never had to deal with an apartment or roommates situation. :/
You know, many roommates really aren't that bad.

EDIT: You mean, your parents just go, "Sure, Sammy, you want a free house? No problem! Happy February!"

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he was away at college all by himself after we moved.
What a tragedy! That's inhuman! Get the man a new car!
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Also, if you can afford a house of your own, you can afford an apartment of your own [Wink]

In smaller cities, one can often get a house (if one is willing to pay for it) at a very reasonable location. But yeah, in larger cities, renting (or buying a condo) is usually the only way to get a really great location (for the things I value in a location).

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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Samprimary: I was born into a well to do family, but they feel the need to instill in me the lessons of hard work, and personal responsibility. Could you get me a new car since they won't?

Well, the way you have presented the issue is an assertion and reads as a practical judgment that the practice of receiving cars from your parents is mutually exclusive from the practice of being instilled with the lessons of hard work and personal responsibility. So, for the sake of protecting your moral lessons, I've got to keep that new car away from you.
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Samprimary: I was born into a well to do family, but they feel the need to instill in me the lessons of hard work, and personal responsibility. Could you get me a new car since they won't?

Well, the way you have presented the issue is an assertion and reads as a practical judgment that the practice of receiving cars from your parents is mutually exclusive from the practice of being instilled with the lessons of hard work and personal responsibility. So, for the sake of protecting your moral lessons, I've got to keep that new car away from you.
You're a real pal Samprimary, I'll let you know if there is any other charity I need withheld from me. [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Well, the way you have presented the issue is an assertion and reads as a practical judgment that the practice of receiving cars from your parents is mutually exclusive from the practice of being instilled with the lessons of hard work and personal responsibility. So, for the sake of protecting your moral lessons, I've got to keep that new car away from you.

But earlier you said.

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Sorry, the rules are you're not deserving of it for the arbitrary virtue of not having been born to a rich family.
The way you presented it originally, is an assertion that the virtue of being born into a rich family makes one deserving of the new car. By that assertion, BB deserves a new car and now both you and his parents are denying him of the car.

So which is it, you are unjustly denying BB of the car you have claimed he deserves, or you no longer think being born into a rich family makes one deserving of receiving things like new cars, houses and the like.

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To be fair to Sam, he didn't say that was the only reason I didn't deserve a free car.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Rabbit:
So which is it, you are unjustly denying BB of the car you have claimed he deserves, or you no longer think being born into a rich family makes one deserving of receiving things like new cars, houses and the like.

That's a false dilemma, and you don't get a car either.
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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
To be fair to Sam, he didn't say that was the only reason I didn't deserve a free car.

Then the proper response would have been that being born to a rich family was a necessary but insufficient condition for deserving a free car.

Personally, I think the simple assertion that being born into a state of privilege makes one (or is a necessary condition for) deserving of anything, pretty much contradicts any common or useful meaning of the word deserve. I recognize that it was said only in jest, but that logical flaw certainly over rides any logical fallacies in my joking response.

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I recognize that it was said only in jest, but that logical flaw certainly over rides any logical fallacies in my joking response.
No. No car.
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I don't need a car. I have a perfectly good one.

Can I please have a house instead?

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You need to make a good plutocratic argument for it. You should make an argument that being in a family of means, your requirements for class status indicators is higher than that of the plebs (which is true of most students in private high schools for children of privelege! just look at their parking lots).
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Can do.

See, my parents have owned their own home for most of the last 20 years (before that, the bank owned part of it), so I clearly need a house to enable me to live in the manner I am accustomed to.

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I need another car because the car my father in law gave me is getting old. All my relatives have nicer cars then me, which causes a great deal of suffering for me. Since the last car was provided for me, I have no concept of actually paying for things.
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