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He's a primitive because he's willing to kill himself for a primitive belief system. Early Americans were off base referring to Native Americans as "savages"....these people are savages. They love death. Anyone willing to kill himself in order to kill hundreds of innocents is a primitive savage.
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quote:One person straps explosives in his underwear and the entire nation is afraid.
I'd just like to state, for the record, that I am not afraid.
The individual doesn't matter anymore...the nation is afraid. At least according to the government. Get ready to drop trow before getting on a plane. This government will strip search an elderly American woman before singling out a 16-30 year old Muslim male named Muhammed.
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quote:Originally posted by malanthrop: He's a primitive because he's willing to kill himself for a primitive belief system. Early Americans were off base referring to Native Americans as "savages"....these people are savages. They love death. Anyone willing to kill himself in order to kill hundreds of innocents is a primitive savage.
quote:Originally posted by malanthrop: He's a primitive because he's willing to kill himself for a primitive belief system. Early Americans were off base referring to Native Americans as "savages"....these people are savages. They love death. Anyone willing to kill himself in order to kill hundreds of innocents is a primitive savage.
And letting fear govern our response to a person willing to give their life to kill hundreds of innocents is just as primitive.
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Take a look at the pictures of the primitive savages I'm referring to. You may be hypersensitive since the most recent picture looks like your everyday black guy but they are white, brown, asian and black. It's a religious war. I know PC prevents our government from admitting we are in the midst of a religious war...even though the most recent attempt happened on the day we celebrate the birth of Christ. The 25th of December is just another day...no significance to the PC head in the sand Progressive.
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quote:a has our entire country bound in knots this week. This is one person....there are over 300 million Americans.
quote:The individual doesn't matter anymore...the nation is afraid. At least according to the government.
One minute you are saying that 300 million individuals are afraid, and the next you are saying that its the government that's afraid, not us. Make up your mind please, we can't make sense of your arguments when they contradict each other.
And where do you get the idea that the government will search an elderly American woman before singling out a 15-30 year old Muslim male named Muhammed? 1) No one is talking strip searches, 2) Scanners will work on everyone, not just old women. 3) Why do you seperate American woman and Muslim males? There are hundreds of thousands of Muslim Males who are also Americans. Did you mean that we'd strip search little old White Women before bothering dangerous Dark-skinned men? 4) Up until two weeks ago, Nigeria was not considered a haven of terrorists, and the darker skin of the Nigerians would have kept them out of most Arab Terrorist racial profiling. So using your prerequisite search profile, he would have been let on the plane with a smile, as would have the shoe-bomber and the last couple of Al-Queda bombers, since they were not 16-30 year old Muslim men.
In fact, Al-Queda is one of the most racist organizations in the world. Their was an article a few years ago about how they paid their people based on country of origin, because they had limited faith in what non-Arabs could actually do.
They don't believe that the west won't do racial profiling in their defenses. So they are actively searching for Non-Arab non-Male and non-young men suicide bombers to be their bombers. Your desire to humiliate all Arabs, and dark skinned possibly Arab young men because of their religious beliefs may allow you some sense of justice and revenge for the atrocities of the few, but it certainly won't make us any safer.
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quote:Originally posted by malanthrop: He's a primitive because he's willing to kill himself for a primitive belief system. Early Americans were off base referring to Native Americans as "savages"....these people are savages. They love death. Anyone willing to kill himself in order to kill hundreds of innocents is a primitive savage.
And letting fear govern our response to a person willing to give their life to kill hundreds of innocents is just as primitive.
Will the response be "ours"? The government would rather have everyone drop their drawers than "profile". TSA will frisk the eighty year old woman from Minnesota because they must treat her the same as Muhammed from Yemen or they'll be accused of racism and sued by CAIR and the ACLU.
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Take a look at the pictures of the primitive savages I'm referring to. You may be hypersensitive since the most recent picture looks like your everyday black guy but they are white, brown, asian and black. It's a religious war. I know PC prevents our government from admitting we are in the midst of a religious war...even though the most recent attempt happened on the day we celebrate the birth of Christ. The 25th of December is just another day...no significance to the PC head in the sand Progressive.
In fairness...December 25th IS just another day. Jesus was born in the Spring.
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All Christians know Jesus wasn't born on the 25th but that is the day his birth is celebrated. Only Easter is arguably a holier day for Christians. If we attacked them on their holiest day, the day would be recognized. Truthfully, we would probably hold off bombing until the next day out of sensitivity. We can't even admit their attack had anything to do with religion. If we knew Bin Laden was hiding in a Mosque, we wouldn't bomb him. Political Correctness is more powerful than reinforced concrete. They actively target the holy places of other religions.
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Take a look at the pictures of the primitive savages I'm referring to. You may be hypersensitive since the most recent picture looks like your everyday black guy but they are white, brown, asian and black. It's a religious war. I know PC prevents our government from admitting we are in the midst of a religious war...even though the most recent attempt happened on the day we celebrate the birth of Christ. The 25th of December is just another day...no significance to the PC head in the sand Progressive.
Yes, go ahead and say that avoiding generalizations is "being PC" and therefore too cowardly to admit the truth. Go ahead and pretend that people's feelings don't matter so long as you go to sleep safe at night. Go ahead and tell a Latina that it's OK that she is pulled over several times a week and asked to present some proof of citizenship. Go ahead and tell the police that it's OK to hassle blacks for being in a White suburb. Lets force Sikhs to remove their turbans, because they could hide weapons in them, and well shoot they look kinda like a-rabs don't they? It's the same damn logic that caused us to lock up the Japanese during WWII. The same idiocy that have caused people to think, "The only good Injun, Gook, Wetback, Yid, Commie, Papist, Wasp, Mormon, Nigger, Rebel, Torie, is a dead one.
This is most certainly not a religious war. The Muslims involved are killing other Muslims, they are killing Christians, they are killing atheists, they have probably killed somebody from every race, religion, and country. Their brand of Islam is repulsive to many other Muslims who have no aspirations for world domination.
But go ahead, lets pretend that the definition of "A good American" has remained static all these years, and yet keep our eyes on those who don't fit our ever changing criteria. After all, it's convenient for us to put up road blocks for everybody else that aren't like us.
Somebody else's liberty for my peace of mind, what's wrong with that?
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"Somebody else's liberty for my peace of mind"?
You prefer sacrifice everyone's liberty to be fair. Still waiting for the Jew, Budhist, Catholic, Mormon, Whiccan suicide bomber.....? I seriously doubt hispanic women are being pulled over on a daily basis to verify their immigration status. I suppose you think a Muslim woman should be able to wear a burka on her drivers license photo. If not, can a male police officer require her to remove her face covering to verify her identity? Is that officer racist or religiously insensitive? I'm not suggesting Muslims get more scrutinized than the 80 year woman from Minnesota is today. I'm suggesting tomorrow, scrutinize the 80 year old woman from Minnesota less. Police set up traps around bars at 3AM....is that profiling. Not all people driving out of the bar at closing time are drunk and dangerous. What right do they have setting up a DUI checkpoint? There are responsible patrons with designated drivers. Just because most drunk drivers come from bars doesn't mean that all people leaving a bar are drunk and a hazard to society.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Yes, go ahead and say that avoiding generalizations is "being PC" and therefore too cowardly to admit the truth. ... "The only good Injun, Gook, Wetback, Yid, Commie, Papist, Wasp, Mormon, Nigger, Rebel, Torie, is a dead one. ... Somebody else's liberty for my peace of mind, what's wrong with that?
quote:Originally posted by malanthrop: Um,...yes completely unprecedented. The head of the EPA is appointed by the president of the US. In the entire history of the EPA, they have never decided to regulate "green house gasses" they were established to regulate pollution. It is unprecedented for them to deem what a mammal exhales or farts to be a pollutant. If the president doesn't agree with the head of the EPA, he's gone. If McCain were president, farts and exhilations wouldn't be considered pollution...methane...C02. I'm not sure I want to live in a world where the government regulates my farts and breath. EPA is not independent...Obama appointed a greeny/communist/community organizer.
The green movement is the new communist movement. Van Jones left the Communist Party to become an environmental activist. Green is the new red.
I'm generally very impressed by these moves. If we continue on this trajectory, Obama will be known as that super unpopular guy who failed to live up to the hype but nailed the environmental stuff. By 2012, I might actually be okay with that.
Mountain top removal approval annoys me a fair bit, but if I'm forced to weigh it against the gains, I'd say it's more than worth it.
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: I'm generally very impressed by these moves. If we continue on this trajectory, Obama will be known as that super unpopular guy who failed to live up to the hype but nailed the environmental stuff.
That's the point of this administration. Progressives have always understood that they cannot get their policies implemented via the legislature, the will of the people. They rely on the courts and bureaucracy to institute their agenda. For Alinski, the ends justifies the means. Only 37% of American support the health care bill but they will pass it. Global warming legislation is equally unpopular. 5 senators have announced their retirement...they are martyring themselves for the progressive agenda. Obama is an extreme leftist socialist who is in a mad rush to implement his agenda before the elections in the fall. His lies got him in and he has a small window of opportunity to institute his statist policies. Obama and Dodd will happily end their political careers after instituting their policies against the will of the people. Alinski would be proud.
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As far as bypassing Congress goes, Look at the four things listed on the link, as far as the EPA goes. 1. Enforcement of an act passed by Congress. 2. Doing their job in its truest sense, by protecting us from harmful pollutants. 3. Doesn't really apply. 4. Doesn't really apply. And actually, every major legislative landmark in the cause of environmentalism, health care, and civil rights in the last 50 years (well, i could try and make the argument that it goes back to the Civil War Amendments, but meh) were passed by progressives via Congress.
If you want to get into Presidents running the government by presidential fiat, maybe we should discuss the biggest abuser of that principle of the last couple decades. Here's a hint; he was in office directly preceding Obama. You can't use Congress as an excuse when stuff happens you don't like, then claim it's absolutely necessary for the president to take unapproved actions when it's stuff you do like. (here's where I act condescending) Do you understand why?
And you know the irony is, while the health care bill itself is viewed negatively by a majority of the population, the public option has the support of a majority of the population.
ETA: To address your edit, Dodd, along with Frank in the House, are going to be key players in getting incredibly important banking reform passed that will help find a happy medium between the Wild Wild West status quo and a return to Glass-Steagall. It's wildly popular legislation, by the way.
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Barnie Frank...you mean the guy who was the Senate Banking Committee Chair and denied Bush's press to reign in Fannie and Freddie. Better to keep lending to people who don't deserve loans for diversity sake. Barnie Frank, the champion of eliminating "red lining"...which banks collapsed first? Fannie and Freddie,...government run banks with a progressive agenda. Fannie and Freddie bought the credit swaps and consolidated mortgages....at the bidding of a progressive government. Lend to people with zero money down and crap for credit.
Will they be good police officers? Obviously it isn't about good police but the racial makup of police. The government cannot dictate outcomes only opportunity....Chicago get ready for a dumber police force. You can tout the diversity though.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Yes, go ahead and say that avoiding generalizations is "being PC" and therefore too cowardly to admit the truth. ... "The only good Injun, Gook, Wetback, Yid, Commie, Papist, Wasp, Mormon, Nigger, Rebel, Torie, is a dead one. ... Somebody else's liberty for my peace of mind, what's wrong with that?
Hey, Chinese translations please
Bah you're right. I felt a titch guilty not sticking to my guns, even if the post was quite intimidating.
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Mal, I am curious where you get your national defense talking points from. They may have been infiltrated by Al Queda.
You say that one lone man with explosive shorts has the entire US running scared. While we in the US deny that we are running, are scared, or any combination, Al Queda is running ads saying how great a victory their attempted airplane bomb was--getting the entire country running scared.
You correct yourself by saying that its the Government that is running scared. Al Queda has a goal of making the US Government appear weak so that they can increase recruiting. They do this with propaganda decrying every single action as one where the US runs scared.
You attack President Obama's speech in Egypt. Al Queda attacked President Obama's speech in Egypt.
You wish to put the majority of our homeland defenses into profiling, where we search only those who are young Arab men. Al Queda has been assuming that is our plan, and has been recruiting heavily non-Arabs, and women.
You decry full body scanners, calling them strip searches of little old ladies. They appear to be the best chance we have of detecting explosives that Al Queda will try to sneak aboard an airplane.
In other words, you are promoting we use a technique that Al-Queda can cheaply work around--bring in some women from Malaysia who don't fit the "profile" or some good old white muslims from Detroit--instead of a system of full body scans that would be expensive and difficult to work around.
And your main argument for doing this is one of religious warfare. You want the US to go to war against all of Islam instead of the minority that is Al Queda. Al-Queda's biggest dream is to have the US go to war against all of Islam instead of just them. This would legitimize them as the leaders not of a few thousand idiots, but of millions and millions of good people. You would be increasing the numbers of our enemies by a factor of millions.
These are not things that would keep our country safe. These are desires that would actually give aid and comfort to our enemies.
Are you sure that you are not getting your talking points from an Al Queda spy?
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