These can be combined grammatically or not, eg "Me will find thou". Additionally there are multiple dialect terms, and the 'will find' can also be dialectified, as in "Oi'll finds youse alls". Can we please keep the various clever permutations of these terms to this thread, instead of spamming new ones?
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Rabbit, I always get the cases confused. Her, him, I and they are accusative, his, hers, mine, and theirs genetive, right? Or am I on the totally wrong track? I'm slowly learning the Czech personal pronouns which come in 7 cases (though they are "folded" into 3 or 4), so this always confuses me. Me is nominative, I accusative, my locative/instrumental, mine genitive. Dative is folded into another case in Czech but I can't remember which. :Brain Asplodes:
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The other cases common in many indo/european languages include dative (indirect object), ablative, vocative, locative and instrumental. This are all declined the same as the accusative in English.
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If we limit ourselves to nominative and accusative declinations we have
I, me, thou, thee, he, him, she, her, it, that, you, we, us, they, them. (15 pronouns) which will gives 225 (169 if we leave out the archaic second person familiar) possible permutations of "pronoun will find pronoun".
If you include the 9 genative pronouns, there are 574 possible permutations.
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Plus dialect terms and attempts to be funny, as some would-be humorist - no names, no pack drill - has indeed attempted with 'wii'. Slapping his thighs with laughter, no doubt.
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Sure, pronouns get all the press. What about the other side of the issue? What about the anti-nouns? Huh? We never hear about them. We never hear the truth, man, because its a big Pro-Noun Conspiracy.
But I know.
You can find the truth on the web.
You can find it on certain AM radio shows.
You just can't find it in the grammar books.
Nazi's are bad.
So Grammar Nazi's must be bad.
And they are the ones behind it all.
They are the ones trying to pretend that Anti-nouns don't exist.
The truth is out there, man. Long live the antinouns. Silence the mean old pronouns!!!!
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KoM, please avoid calling people names. Whether mentioning who they are specifically or not, it is a violation of the ToS.
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quote:Originally posted by Darth_Mauve: Sure, pronouns get all the press. What about the other side of the issue? What about the anti-nouns? Huh? We never hear about them. We never hear the truth, man, because its a big Pro-Noun Conspiracy.
Don't forget the neunouns. They are the most dangerous, ballistically speaking.
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The word is "genitive" case. Not genative or genetive.
quote:In grammar, the genitive case (abbreviated gen; also called the possessive case or second case) is the case that marks a noun as modifying another noun. It often marks a noun as being the possessor of another noun but it can also indicate various relationships other than possession; certain verbs may take arguments in the genitive case; and it may have adverbial uses (see Adverbial genitive). Modern English does not typically mark nouns for a genitive case morphologically – rather, it uses the apostrophe ’s or a preposition (usually of) – but the personal pronouns do have distinct possessive forms.
In Koiné Greek, which provided much of the basis for the grammatical rules we try to impose on English (with varying degrees of success), the genitive and "ablative" cases were combined, giving nouns the same ending. Genitive usually conveyed the idea of possession: "of." Ablative usually conveyed the idea of "from."
Everything in modern English is so complicated and inconsistent, with two words for everything, because it is actually a train-wreck between Anglo-Saxon and Norman French, thanks to the Battle of Hastings in 1066.
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