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I'm not a big fan of there being no more I. I want lots more I. I think I is pretty great.

And now dkw has gone Rastafarian.
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"There is no evidence for that" seems an excellent critique to me.

I wouldn't feel competent to make that critique to an adherent of Kabbalism or astrology, since I don't know what they believe, so I don't know what it is that I'd be claiming to see no evidence for.
Ah yes, I keep forgetting that you don't believe anything, and consequently also disbelieve nothing. Generally I consider "Argument X allows you to believe in astrology" to be a fairly strong indicator that you should not use X. But of course it's different for people not interested in truth.
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KoM: What?
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Originally posted by dkw:
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Originally posted by King of Men:
"There is no evidence for that" seems an excellent critique to me.

I wouldn't feel competant to make that critique to an adherent of Kabbalism or astrology, since I don't know what they believe, so I don't know what it is that I'd be claiming to see no evidence for.
Re: astrology. The positions of the planets when you were born and/or right now affect your life, particularly your romantic one.

An there's no evidence for that.

Actually there are some studies that indicate that a child's temperament might be tied to when they are born. Some one did a study where they asked people how lucky they are and sorted based on month born. Those born in May self reported higher luck than those in October. They hypothesized that in a cold climate, a baby born in October would spend most of their early doors indoors, around less people. One born in spring would spend more time outside and around people. These differences could then affect their view throughout their lives.
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Originally posted by King of Men:
Ah yes, I keep forgetting that you don't believe anything, and consequently also disbelieve nothing. Generally I consider "Argument X allows you to believe in astrology" to be a fairly strong indicator that you should not use X. But of course it's different for people not interested in truth.

You don't know beans about what I believe or don't believe. I don't discuss it here.

To my knowledge I have never spoken to a person who is a practitioner of astrology. If I were having a conversation with one, and they told me what they believed I would be able to comment on it. If I was interested in astrology and made a study of their beliefs, I could comment on that. I have done neither, therefore I don't know enough to comment. All I know about astrology is from seeing horoscopes printed in the newspaper -- I've seen no evidence that they have any predictive value or insight, but for all I know people who actually practice astrology don't think they do either.

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