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RivalOfTheRose
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When are they going to release all 6 movies in one box set package so I can waste alot of money?
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would you kill an alot made of money, or would you just keep it around to shave it every month?
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I hear six disc release on blu ray next month.
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Probably shave it.
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Well Lyr, why wouldn't then release the originals in Blu Ray, then release the prequels in blu ray, then release the originals in a special edition box set with special added features, then release the prequels in special edition box set, then release the originals unremastered in the original form without special features, and then release the prequels in a remastered version with additional scenes, then release the originals with new added scenes and re-re-re-remastered audio, and then....
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They might be waiting for the 3-D remakes. Lucas said he's going to start rereleasing each film in theaters, beginning with episode 1, converting each of them to 3-D. If the first one bombs, though, he's not going to do the others. It's a poor business strategy if you ask me, because episode 1 and 2 are the most hated episodes, but then again I'm not George Lucas so hey, what do I know.
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then again I'm not George Lucas so hey, what do I know.
That thinly veiled racial stereo types are not as fun and funny as you might think, that awesome light saber battles don't actually make up for poorly written scripts, that just because you only introduced a couple of planets/characters in the original 3 movies doesn't mean you need those character/planets to be in every durn scene, that just because someone has a gun pointed at you doesn't mean they want you to give up, sometime, somewhere, they are actually going to shot you, that futuristic chariot races are not a good premise to hang a movie on, that adding pseudoscience about the force to prequels just hurts all the movies, that there is not such thing as a purple light saber...

I could go on, but I'd just get mad.

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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
Well Lyr, why wouldn't then release the originals in Blu Ray, then release the prequels in blu ray, then release the originals in a special edition box set with special added features, then release the prequels in special edition box set, then release the originals unremastered in the original form without special features, and then release the prequels in a remastered version with additional scenes, then release the originals with new added scenes and re-re-re-remastered audio, and then....

This is likely the most accurate prediction of what is to come.

On a related note, I still have not seen the lion's share of Episode 3. It was so unbearably god awful I can't even force myself to see the whole thing out of obligation to finish the set. I did see the very end one time, and it almost made me vomit. It should've ended when vader took the first breaths. And AI should've ended with the kid trapped under the water wishing to the fairy statue.

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that there is not such thing as a purple light saber
The only thing that made that OK was the fact that only Sam Jackson had one.

And episode 3 wasn't that bad, Odouls, at least not to me. I actually enjoyed most of it, aside from the cheesy dialogue near the end. Still, the fights were amazing and Yoda vs Palpatine was pretty cool.

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The only thing that made that OK was the fact that only Sam Jackson had one.
No! Samuel Mother F***king Jackson did not make it okay, Samuel Mother F***king Jackson made it ten times worse!

Now reach into the Mother F***king bag and take out my Mother F***king light saber!

Which one is yours?

The one that is purple and has Mother F***king Jedi Master written on the handle!

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeff C.:
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that there is not such thing as a purple light saber
The only thing that made that OK was the fact that only Sam Jackson had one.

And episode 3 wasn't that bad, Odouls, at least not to me. I actually enjoyed most of it, aside from the cheesy dialogue near the end. Still, the fights were amazing and Yoda vs Palpatine was pretty cool.

What? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*ahem* maybe Lucas is waiting until he (finally) works on episodes 7, 8, and 9 like has promised for years.

Or the live action series. I'll take either.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeff C.:

And episode 3 wasn't that bad, Odouls, at least not to me. I actually enjoyed most of it, aside from the cheesy dialogue near the end. Still, the fights were amazing and Yoda vs Palpatine was pretty cool.

Sorry bro, I didn't see a single fight. Couldn't get past the wretched "banter" between Anakin and Obi-Wan in the beginning. It wasn't even laughable. It was offensively horrid. As if Lucas was saying, "I already got your 8 bucks, I dare you to walk out." Guess what? I did.

I say this as a person who vehemently defended episode 1, and was even able to look past Yoda's cringe-inspiring "Around the survivors a perimeter create" in Episode 2.

In spite of watching and enjoying star wars movies, I will never see Episode 3 without restraints and threats of death being involved.

And if they try to make me watch that ludicrous and pathetic Darth Vader temper tantrum at the end again, I very well might choose death.

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That sucks, because the fights were what made the movie. Yoda vs Emperor = awesome
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I'm sorry, but Yoda vs. the Emperor = objectively lame. Both Yoda fights in the prequels sucked. [Frown]
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The problem with the Yoda fights is that they are fan service. There's no real reason to have Yoda dueling anyone, as he works better as a source of wisdom (which is to say, plot). But no, he's the most awesomest lightsaber fighter ever! I would much prefer to have seen him show his true power not in flipping and flying like some parkour-ninja tree rat, but in truly matching Palpatine in power and driving him off. I mean, wasn't he able to deal with the force lightning without a lightsaber?

The fights in the original trilogy were important, there was dialogue and plot being moved forward that made them feel integral to the movies. The prequel trilogy fights were 'look at this cool shit!' with a plot point tacked on at the end to try and make them relevant.

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Sorry bro, I didn't see a single fight. Couldn't get past the wretched "banter" between Anakin and Obi-Wan in the beginning. It wasn't even laughable. It was offensively horrid.
Wise. You avoided the larger tendency of the star wars fan to go totally stockholm syndrome and pretend that even one element of the movie was 'redeeming' or even remotely compelling enough to justify the prequels.

By the time 3 rolled around, I was beyond any temptation to go through the whole theater song and dance routine. Yet I still saw it anyway. Was it like Plinkett said? Was it just to get it all over with, put the whole sorry thing to rest?

Or was it to get closure so many years later?

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quote:
Originally posted by odouls268:
Sorry bro, I didn't see a single fight. Couldn't get past the wretched "banter" between Anakin and Obi-Wan in the beginning. It wasn't even laughable. It was offensively horrid. As if Lucas was saying, "I already got your 8 bucks, I dare you to walk out." Guess what? I did.

I say this as a person who vehemently defended episode 1, and was even able to look past Yoda's cringe-inspiring "Around the survivors a perimeter create" in Episode 2.

In spite of watching and enjoying star wars movies, I will never see Episode 3 without restraints and threats of death being involved.

And if they try to make me watch that ludicrous and pathetic Darth Vader temper tantrum at the end again, I very well might choose death.

Have you seen the Red Letter Media review yet? It's more entertaining than the movies themselves, and does a pretty good job critiquing what went wrong.
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Samp, that video is pure gold!
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Well here you go Rival!

http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/6cb04347-1e1a-4626-b0fc-03cbdca27fb0/star-wars-the-complete-saga-blu-ray-today-only#18

Looks like September 16th. There is a deal right now through woot to get all 6 movies on Blu-Ray for only $83. Not bad!

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I didn't like the Yoda-vs-the-Emperor fight (neither Yoda nor Palpatine should be spending that much effort moving around to fight each other, and the Emperor's silly laughter ruined it regardless), but I did like various shorter fights that Yoda was in. They felt more natural and less fanservice-y.
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George Lucas isn't getting any more of my money. In fact, I didn't see the newer three movies in the theater.
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RotS is probably my least favorite movie ever and I'd rather watch Star Wars Christmas Special no sarcasm.
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If they release a version of the original movies on Blu-Ray, I'd probably buy it. I don't see why they can't just offer an option to play as original without the extras, it wouldn't be that hard, but it would engender a lot of fan goodwill.

Not that Lucas cares what fans think, though, he IS a pretty good sport about making fun of himself.

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quote:
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RotS is probably my least favorite movie ever and I'd rather watch Star Wars Christmas Special no sarcasm.

OK, this is just being unfair. Did you see Star Wars: The Clone Wars? I'm not talking about episode 2. This was that hour and a half cartoon that somehow made it into theaters which served as a kind of introduction to the TV show...

IT WAS HORRIBLE!

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The cartoon show, from what I have heard, is pretty good.

Of course, the same person that liked that show also likes the Sci-Fi made for TV movies, so.......

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I DVRed it...saw the first five min of the episodes and then deleted the setting and all episodes.

I prefer to think of Star Wars as the first two movies + the third - ewoks. Everything else is bad fan fic and not part of the "real" cannon.

My impression of the end of the last original movie: Star Destroyer Captain to other Star Destroyer Captains: "Well, our troops were overwhelmed on the surface of the moon by stone age teddy bears, the Supper Star Destroyer and Death Star II both blew up, so, let's just surrender!"

Star Destroyer Captain 2: "You are right, only the bulk of the entire Imperial fleet including over thirty Star Destroyers, with nearly ten thousand ground troops per Star Destroyer are gathered, we are helpless against these stone age teddy bears, and the small remnant of the rag tag Rebel fleet, let's surrender immediately!"

Star Destroyer Captain 3: "Oh yes, shall we all gather for some tea and talk about organizing a surrender party?"

Star Destroyer Captain 4: "Oh yes, I'll bring crumpets."

Star Destroyer Captain 5: "Crumpets? Brilliant!"

[ August 11, 2011, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: Stone_Wolf_ ]

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Lyrhawn
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You know, they retconned that rather nicely in the Thrawn Trilogy.
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How?
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Lyrhawn
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The Emperor was using the Force to bind all his Star Destroyer captains to him. When he died, chaos ensued, and with the Admiral dead after the Executor was destroyed, they all just took off in the confusion.
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Weak sauce.

I think my explanation of tea and crumpets makes more sense.

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quote:
Originally posted by Geraine:
The cartoon show, from what I have heard, is pretty good.

Of course, the same person that liked that show also likes the Sci-Fi made for TV movies, so.......

He isn't talking about the cartoon show. I think he's talking about the cg movie.
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Wait, I'm still a little confused. I'm stuck at the part back where we were talking about someone wanting to pay money for the first three episodes on bluray.
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quote:
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Wait, I'm still a little confused. I'm stuck at the part back where we were talking about someone wanting to pay money for the first three episodes on bluray.

Conversation piece for the coffee table. "No, no, seriously, no BS, I paid REAL money for this drivel!"

Basically, anyone who's gonna pay money all over again to have those piles of idiocy in yet another format is the kind of person that Obama would refer to as "most able to afford [a tax increase]."

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quote:
Originally posted by umberhulk:
He isn't talking about the cartoon show. I think he's talking about the cg movie.

True story.

The TV show is decent, but I'm referring to the movie, which was basically just the first three episodes. I still can't believe they released it in theaters.

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quote:
Originally posted by odouls268:
quote:
Originally posted by Annie:
Wait, I'm still a little confused. I'm stuck at the part back where we were talking about someone wanting to pay money for the first three episodes on bluray.

Conversation piece for the coffee table. "No, no, seriously, no BS, I paid REAL money for this drivel!"

Basically, anyone who's gonna pay money all over again to have those piles of idiocy in yet another format is the kind of person that Obama would refer to as "most able to afford [a tax increase]."

[ROFL]
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I want to see Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade on the big screen plzkthx!
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What exactly is new about this set?

From the looks of things, there's some substantial material here. Is it worth upgrading if you already have the series? Guess part of that depends on whether or not you have a system that can really take advantage of Blu-ray, but there are so me significant extras. The part that has me most intrigued are the deleted scenes from the original trilogy.

Snippets like this one have been released before, and the guy from Digital Bits promises that there are longer, more substantial scenes to be revealed as well.

I'd kind of still like to wait for a version that has the original theatrical releases, but, that could still be another decade.

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I will buy the original theatrical versions. I will buy nothing until then.
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Do you have the right kind of projector to watch them?
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quote:
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I will buy the original theatrical versions. I will buy nothing until then.

i hope you're at least stealing food till then
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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
I will buy the original theatrical versions. I will buy nothing until then.

I don't think they exist anymore.
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hey guys hey guys guess how extra awesome the blu rays look

http://io9.com/5835951/darth-vader-will-lose-a-little-more-of-his-dignity-in-star-wars-original-trilogy-blu+rays-listen-for-yourself

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Why must he keep doing this? Why?
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quote:
Originally posted by Raymond Arnold:
I didn't like the Yoda-vs-the-Emperor fight (neither Yoda nor Palpatine should be spending that much effort moving around to fight each other, and the Emperor's silly laughter ruined it regardless), but I did like various shorter fights that Yoda was in. They felt more natural and less fanservice-y.

Yeah, the only fight Yoda was in that I actually enjoyed was when he first walks into the Emperor's chamber, and the two red-robed Imperial guards try to stop him. He glances at them and slams them into the wall with the force.

If that was the only time in all three prequels we saw Yoda fight, I would have been much happier, because I can definitely imagine that the Yoda of Empire might actually fight that way.

I mean, the prequels still would have been horrible. But that would have at least been better.

[ August 30, 2011, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: Dan_Frank ]

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I don't think they "No!" sounds as bad as the article makes it out to be. I don't see why it needed to be added (if this is all real), but it fits in fairly well.
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The "Nooooo" is dumb and sounds dumb. I'm sort of skeptical that even Lucas could be this neurotic about what should be a finished product, though. I wonder if someone took the sound byte from the end of Episode 3, because this "Noooo" sounds similar.

Oh, god. Or maybe it is real and Lucas is adding this to make the end of Jedi be more like the end of Ep3.

You know, because it's like poetry. It rhymes. [Wall Bash]

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quote:
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Oh, god. Or maybe it is real and Lucas is adding this to make the end of Jedi be more like the end of Ep3.

You know, because it's like poetry. It rhymes. [Wall Bash]

That was my assumption. After the prequels and the various revamps of the original trilogy, though, I can't muster up any particular outrage at what Lucas does to his series. I mean, he already broke it. Now he's just stomping on the pieces.
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Ugh. I mean, does it work? Yeah, kind of. I thought that the first "No!" was fine in the sense that, it makes perfect sense for him to want to shout something like that after the news he'd just received and considering his broken mental state. Dude was pretty messed up. But it SOUNDS dumb, just because it doesn't mesh well with his voice.

In this case, however, the "No!" both sounds dumb, and is considerably less powerful than the original. Seeing the cold black mask, seeing him look between son and Master, and then the sudden movement where he grabs the Emperor, that's just a powerful scene, you can see him making the choice, which is impressive considering his mask betrays no emotion.

The "No" just takes the wind out of it.

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The only Star Wars watched in our home were ripped from the old laserdisc copies.

If I'm ever given the option of buying and owning those versions legitimately, I'll take it. Until then, it's the pirated version we watch while the legitimate version sits on the shelf.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:

You know, because it's like poetry. It rhymes. [Wall Bash]

:Condescending nod:

"Once again they're like Poetry... they rhyme... I hope it works.."

:frightened expression:

That was possibly one of the funniest aspects of the Plinkett Reviews, going back to that well, over, and over, and over again.

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