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happymann
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So for the past few years I've been playing WoW. It's a game I still thoroughly enjoy even when there are so many fatal flaws with it. I think I'm stubborn enough to keep with it for a while yet.

However, I am looking for something that has much of the spark that WoW had earlier. You all have mentioned several games in various threads, so I was wondering if you have some suggestions as to which game I should try and a brief description/explanation why I should.

So, what say you?

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I've yet to play a game that surpasses WoW. I've tried quite a few, but I've just never stuck with them. It's probably largely that WoW was my first MMORPG, so it felt so new and fresh to me.

I am hopeful that this year at Blizzcon they reveal their new MMORPG Titan, and it's everything I'm hoping it will be.

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Titan just got reset, so it'll be 3-4 years until it'll be time for Blizzard to give out details.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bokonon:
Titan just got reset, so it'll be 3-4 years until it'll be time for Blizzard to give out details.

Where did you hear this?
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NVM, I Googled it and it looks like that happened this past week.

Curses!

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I personally enjoy Resident Evil 4, 5, and 6, but it's pretty much a third-person shooter series by now, and that's not everyone's cup of tea. Everyone warns me away from MMORPGs, because of their addictive nature, (even when they're recommending them to me, sometimes), so I've never started playing one.

The Thief series, all 3 games (Thief: The Dark Project was the first), is excellent. It's a "first person sneaker", that almost never requires actual combat, if you're patient. It's extremely atmospheric, and there are hundreds of fan-created levels available. At least 10 or 12 of them are better than most of the original levels in the games themselves.

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I can't give you any recommendations for MMORPGs as I don't play any regularly and the one's I've tried haven't been much fun, but I can give you list of my favorite games/series:

Fallout: New Vegas is hands down my favorite game of all time. It has its share of problems, but IMO it feels interactive in a way no game I've played has even come close to. The world and its population just feel so real. It is a First Person Shooter, so if you are not so into those you may not like it.

Paradox/Grand Strategy Games: Europa Universalis, Crusader Kings, Victoria, and(?) Hearts of Iron; all games that put you in some sort of control of a nation and allow you to plot it's destiny. Crusader Kings 2 takes you from 1066 (867 with the new DLC), to 1453, but only in Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East. You control a single person and manage you family and estates, changing to your heir each time you die. Europa Universalis 3 takes you from 1399 to 1821. Here you control a country instead and can choose any in the world. Victoria 2, my personal favorite, starts you right before the coronation of the titular queen and allows you to play up until the start of WW2. HoI picks up from there and allows you to play until 1964 (with the right expansions). In development is East vs West which allows you to play through the modern age. Crusader Kings 2 is generally found to be the easiest, though Europa Universalis 3 can be similarly simple. Whereas Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 3 are an incest and backstabbing simulator, and fingerpaint with a map of the world, respectively, Victoria 2 tries its best to simulate the power play between the great powers at the time. Vicky allows you to grow any nation in the world into a Communist superpower conquering the world for worker's rights to a libertarian utopia colonizing the world for profit. (I wouldn't reccomend the second one, capitalists are notoriously short-sighted). Now GSG's aren't for everyone but I would recommend giving Crusader Kings 2 a shot and if you really like it, working your way up to Vicky 2 or Darkest Hour.


I hope that all came out coherently, my eyes are telling me it did, but they're also closing involuntarily.

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Thief was fun but I think I got bored/frustrated after a few hours.

I played Fallout: New Vegas for a bit. I've played several FPSes (even several months when I played Halo Reach almost every day) but I have determined that I suck at them no matter how much practicing I get in (but I must say I still enjoy them sometimes).

I've played various Civs games. Are they (Cursader Kings, Victoria, etc.) similar or pretty different? I suck at the Civs games as well. Basically I need to play on the easiest difficulty to get anywhere in the game.

Actually, maybe I just suck at all video games, but I still enjoy playing them. Maybe that's why I play WoW. Much of it I can grind to victory.

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Paradox games are almost nothing like the Civ games. There is a bigger focus on history and plausibility and, depending on the game, bigger focus on diplomacy, trade, or war.
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quote:
Originally posted by happymann:
Thief was fun but I think I got bored/frustrated after a few hours.


Me too. It was my first real PC game (besides the original Oregon Trail). However, I felt like I would have to become an active member of the dummy club if I couldn't hack it, so I persevered. Little did I know that the PC controls aren't necessarily that easy to master for most people. The first two games are fairly tough, too, especially on the hardest difficulty.
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Rift is pretty fun. There is a ton to do and is very much like Wow, but the "soul" system is pretty awesome.
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Rift looks kind of interesting. I'm not entirely sure I'm looking to jump into another subscription-based game, though.
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Is Rift not free-to-play yet?
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June 12.
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So I've been trying out Rift a little bit, but it's going to take more playing for me to make an accurate assessment of the game. So far it's just a different WoW to me.

Meanwhile I've been eyeing the Mass Effect Trilogy for the PC (since currently I've given away my 360 and I don't own a PS3) but I don't know how playable it's going to be. I played 1 and 2 multiple times on the 360 and mouse/keyboard may be a bit of an adjustment for me.

Who here does mouse/keyboard FPS and also controller console FPS that can give a sufficient review of the difficulty/ease of switching back and forth?

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I don't find it that difficult, but I'm pretty good at fps/tps'.

Plus, you can always get a wired 360 controller for your PC which I highly reccomend. I use mine for 90% of my gaming, basically everything but strategy games and competitive FPS'. It works especially good for hack and slash, and third person action games.

Recently I've been playing the Batman Arkham games, they were ~75% off on steam, and they're really a lot of fun. If you like batman then these are really the games for you. They capture the essence of the character flawlessly.

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The Division actually looks like it could be awesome. Doesn't come out until next year though. FPSMMO.
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quote:
I played 1 and 2 multiple times on the 360 and mouse/keyboard may be a bit of an adjustment for me.
I find keyboard/mouse easier to use even though I do most of my gaming on an Xbox 360. Pretty much any hardcore gamer will tell you that keyboard/mouse is the superior interface in terms speed, precision, and flexibility. Aiming in particular is a much better experience because of the configurability and precision that a mouse offers compared to an analog stick.

You can also get one of these to use a standard 360 wireless controller with your PC: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Gaming-Receiver-Windows/dp/B000HZFCT2

One caveat with that is that the PC version of Mass Effect was designed with keyboard/mouse in mind so the controller may not be a great experience.

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quote:
Originally posted by happymann:
So I've been trying out Rift a little bit, but it's going to take more playing for me to make an accurate assessment of the game. So far it's just a different WoW to me.

Meanwhile I've been eyeing the Mass Effect Trilogy for the PC (since currently I've given away my 360 and I don't own a PS3) but I don't know how playable it's going to be. I played 1 and 2 multiple times on the 360 and mouse/keyboard may be a bit of an adjustment for me.

Who here does mouse/keyboard FPS and also controller console FPS that can give a sufficient review of the difficulty/ease of switching back and forth?

Rift is awesome once your first zone wide event hits. You will be traveling along, then all of the sudden enemies from one of the elemental planes will invade the entire zone, and you will need to band with others to drive them back!

The good thing is that they usually stick to roads, so you can still quest if you would rather do that instead.

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quote:
Originally posted by Thesifer:
The Division actually looks like it could be awesome. Doesn't come out until next year though. FPSMMO.

3PS
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quote:
Originally posted by MattP:
quote:
I played 1 and 2 multiple times on the 360 and mouse/keyboard may be a bit of an adjustment for me.
I find keyboard/mouse easier to use even though I do most of my gaming on an Xbox 360. Pretty much any hardcore gamer will tell you that keyboard/mouse is the superior interface in terms speed, precision, and flexibility. Aiming in particular is a much better experience because of the configurability and precision that a mouse offers compared to an analog stick.

You can also get one of these to use a standard 360 wireless controller with your PC: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Gaming-Receiver-Windows/dp/B000HZFCT2

One caveat with that is that the PC version of Mass Effect was designed with keyboard/mouse in mind so the controller may not be a great experience.

So I downloaded the ME3 Demo to see how keyboard and mouse would work. It wasn't so bad but I am more used to using a controller. And there is no in-game options for using a controller on the PC version of Mass Effect, which would mean I'd need some third-party software to make my controller compatible with the games. Does anyone have experience with that kind of software?
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The game I had absolutely the most fun with to date on computer or console is Dark Age of Camelot. It was a fantastically fun game that got crushed after it released the breaking Trials of Atlantis add-on.

Between that and the rise of WoW, it unfortunately died.

The creators of DAoC have successfully funded Camelot Unchained , a new game with a lot of the same concepts and improvements.

The 30 minute video is worth watching, even if it is a little dry. I am so excited! They did so many things right in DAoC, like having 3 realms instead of 2 and having each realm have unique classes and races. It kept it so diverse and vibrant, where most other MMOs got stale for me really quickly.

They also are going to have a unique take on crafting and housing for an MMO.

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