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Parkour
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Why is this a thing.
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Elison R. Salazar
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Who deleted what now?
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Corwin
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"Proof of the afterlife", either by creator (most likely) or by mod.
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Misha McBride
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Mods don't usually delete threads actually. If someone is making offensive posts they prefer to delete them individually. Ginette's last post in the thread was a flounce/everyone go home, so I'm assuming she nuked it when no one stopped posting.
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Yeah, I know, it's extremely rare for mods to do that (mostly for spam threads I think or ones that degenerate right from the start), hence my "most likely" in the previous post. [Smile]
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i still have the entire thread archived. i think it should be available to peruse if ginette ever claims to be a scientist ever again
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My bad, I misread the "most likely" as coming after "or".

I really wish they'd disable posters' ability to delete threads. I've seen it happen about a dozen times now and in almost every instance it was because the thread starter got butthurt because no one agreed with them. If someone has a legitimate reason to have a thread deleted (internet stalkers or whatever) they can email Janitor Blade and ask him to delete it. Such requests are highly unlikely to eat up his time considering rarely it would be needed and how low traffic this forum is nowadays.

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I say, if it's archived (wish I'd thought of that) post it again. Leave her posts in-she didn't ask before deleting everyone else's, why should her permission be required to post hers?
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Parkour
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quote:
Originally posted by Rakeesh:
I say, if it's archived (wish I'd thought of that) post it again. Leave her posts in-she didn't ask before deleting everyone else's, why should her permission be required to post hers?

agreed, and i'm on it
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Parkour
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nevermind i can't find wherever the hell it is

YO BUTTHEAD GET BACK HERE.

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libraries/documents/vcvlogs/hatrackubb
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Parkour
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you do this
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Yeah so insofar as my keeping a record of threads on hatrack and starting a policy of recalling them on request goes, it's got nothing specifically to do with GinetteB, even if that whole event was especially ... special. It has to do with that users being able to delete their own threads has been something which has been spectacularly mismanaged to the detriment of legitimate posters and posting, and nobody wants to invest a lot of time into an argument and have all their posts vanish because the OP got butthurt or wanted to 'teach the forum a lesson.' I did legitimately say before that if nothing was going to be done about this either way and if the ability for users to delete threads was just going to languish and stay in by default, then, why not protect the users of the community from the risk of having their well thought out posts or threads/arguments they were legitimately invested in get vanished if the OP pulls an Aros?

Moderation has said, clearly and without ambiguity, that reposting the contents of a deleted thread is not against TOS.

I'm going to say that again: moderation has said, clearly and without ambiguity, that reposting the contents of a deleted thread is not against TOS. A person's ability to delete whole threads does not extend to a prohibition on the preservation and reposting of those discussions by other users.

So anyone who wants to delete a thread can do so knowing that if another user who participated in that thread requests the recovery of the conversation because they are upset that someone else has exercised deletion that annihilated their personal input and the product of their time and energy, I'll provide it. If that, in your opinion, removes the 'spirit' of the power vested in user-based thread deletion, I guess that creates cause for a discussion about whatever that 'spirit' is supposed to be, as opposed to how it has been wielded.

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I did not delete the thread in question. Typically I prefer locking threads to outright deletion.

In of itself, re-posting the contents of a deleted thread are not against the TOS.

There are situations where I would not permit content from deleted threads to be re-posted.

Per usual, moderators reserve the power to close, delete, and forbid re-posting of any material on Hatrack.

There will certainly be circumstances where a thread's creator and thread participators both have legitimate reasons for wanting a thread to exist or be deleted. Each situation will be looked at on a case by case basis. I don't think a standard rule would work.

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Hatrack's first scandal in ages and I didn't even open the thread.

Someone give me a head's up next time.

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The Black Pearl
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You didn't miss much.
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This is the first time a deletion didn't annoy me. It was sort of the perfect punctuation of self-delusion and confirmation bias. Not only did GinetteB ignore contrary evidence, she actively sought to suppress it - in the middle of a discussion of confirmation bias!

It's poetic.

[ September 02, 2013, 08:39 PM: Message edited by: MattP ]

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Whatever.
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Hatrack has slain another dragon.
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Hatrack has offered another opportunity for wry commentary on the habits of hatrack.
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I vote to remove thread deletion from user control.
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Jon Boy
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I vote to give Hatrackers the ability to vote on things.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
I vote to give Hatrackers the ability to vote on things.

Just not Galactic Cactusians, right?
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Jon Boy
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Just not you.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
Just not you.

[Cry]
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You guys wouldn't handle a democracy very well. Be grateful for the benevolent monarchy I provide.
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Strange authors hanging around websites distributing mod powers is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical internet ceremony!
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Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

edit: Erm, perhaps that was a bit forceful. Would you come along with me, I'd love to hear your opinions in private...

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Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
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Bloody peasant!
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You may find thread-deletion privileges an unpopular idea among common posters, but what if all of us quiet, hidden lurkers came out of hiding, hmm? Would the tables be turned then?

Not advocating turning over any tables, mind. Just a shoutout to those of us with opinions who so very often don't express it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kwea:
Whatever.

Wait, were you at the pool hall
And this girl came up
And she was, like, "awww"
And you were, like, "yeah, whatever!"

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Wait...if you can revive a deleted thread--then that proves life after death, because the thread was dead, and then--magically--its alive.

OK. Rule of Hatrack 182. If you delete your thread you are saying to the world--I lost. Those who posted against you can claim a victory.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jake:
quote:
Originally posted by Kwea:
Whatever.

Wait, were you at the pool hall
And this girl came up
And she was, like, "awww"
And you were, like, "yeah, whatever!"

To be fair, this is his united states of whatever.
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
i still have the entire thread archived. i think it should be available to peruse if ginette ever claims to be a scientist ever again

Post it?

To be fair, Ginette is a scientist in the sense that she claims to be a scientist. Sort of like OSC is a democrat, or Hot Topic is cool. In a way, it's true- at least for her.

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I'm helping out with that, I will post it soon.
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quote:
Originally posted by Corwin:
"Proof of the afterlife", either by creator (most likely) or by mod.

Definitely read that wrong, thought the title of the thread was:

"Proof of the afterlife, either by creator or by mod"

Actually a little disappointed that's not the thread. I was looking forward to thoughts on the "mod."

(I considered doing a mayfly but it's been so long I don't remember the nuances of it)

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