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theamazeeaz
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The list of Oscar Nominees are out!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2015/01/15/2015-oscar-nominations-complete-coverage/

It's never very exciting to me, because I've only seen a few of the movies that ever get nominated. I did see Boyhood and Grand Budapest hotel though. I like them both well enough.

I do agree it's weird the Lego movie wasn't on the nominees list for animated feature.

[ January 15, 2015, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: theamazeeaz ]

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Lyrhawn
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I think Grand Budapest is wildly overrated. I don't mind if it wins a thousand Golden Globes, that's what the Globes are for - super artsy, avant-garde, stuff the main viewing public probably won't see, type of stuff.

But I'll be disappointed to see it win the top Oscars.

What do the Oscars have against movies that people actually go see? Those types of movies seem to only ever win technical/production type awards, which I've always taken as the Oscars' way of saying "we acknowledge your movie is popular, so here's an Oscar...but...let's not confuse what you do with REAL movies."

If they're never going to give awards to comedies or pop movies, then they should create separate categories for them to be recognized.

Until then, it's often difficult to take these things seriously when they only ever seem to focus on a subset of movies that only insiders are really fawning over.

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I don't know.

I agree that GBH was overrated, though I though Moonrise Kingdom should have at least gotten a nod.

Nobody thinks Transformers deserves an Oscar, though a lot of people went to go see it.

The Oscars aren't decided by the people, they are decided by the Academy. I think it's just a fluke of tradition that their opinions are the ones that people talk about.

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Lyrhawn, on the other hand, these are the "Academy Awards" - the Academy simply is insiders; a more populist award would be something different. I think that's why they invented the People's Choice awards.
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The lack of Lego movie is a surprise, but I would only really switch it out for How to Train your Dragon 2. HTTYD 2 was a good movie, but not a GREAT movie. Then again Big Hero 6 was just "ok" for me.

Who should win? The Tale of Princess Kaguya. No other animated film this year approached it's level of art style and story telling in my opinion. If you haven't seen it, you are missing out. It's one of the few films that has a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, and is the only Ghibli film besides Kiki's delivery service to have a 100% rating.

Who will probably win? Big Hero 6 or HTTYD 2, because the animated feature award is usually a popularity contest or a way to reward friends of the Academy.

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I know it's the Academy. That's part of why I rarely watch it. They aren't awards for me. They're awards actors hand out to each other, voted on my each other. And it's all political.

But geez, throw us a bone.

No, Transformers isn't going to get and doesn't deserve an Academy Award.

Guardians of the Galaxy might deserve one though, in some capacity beyond a nod for CGI.

Avengers might have too.

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I'm a little disappointed that Interstellar isn't in the running. It's a film that took an incredible amount of work and expertise to create, and it's a true masterpiece. I think I share a lot of Lyrhawn's frustration here - I know it's an insider award, but it seems as often as not it goes to forgettable artsy films that, while technically brilliant, don't really break new ground or have much importance.

Of the films on the best picture list, I really hope it goes to Boyhood. I absolutely loved it, and it really is a powerful and insightful film. Imitation Game is great too, though hardly groundbreaking, and I haven't seen American Sniper yet but heard it's pretty good. (I'll probably see it tomorrow) I'll be very disappointed if GBH wins.

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Lyrhawn
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I would add that, the Emmys seem to have a lot more respect from the general viewing audience. I'll actually watch the Emmys from time to time, because I feel like they reflect viewer opinions a lot more closely. I also think the award categories they choose to award cover a much wider swath of the genres currently airing.

I think the Viewer's Choice Awards are interesting, though the voting method is flawed. You shouldn't be able to program a bot to fix the results. But in general I like the categories and I like that it's viewer/consumer driven.

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If I gave a oscar nomination to a 'pop movie' this year I think it'd be Edge of Tomorrow.
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I missed that one. Interestingly, Edge of Tomorrow was a box office flop compared to projections and its peers.

But it was a critical success amongst the reviewers. So technically it wasn't a "pop" movie in the sense that it was actually popular.

But I find it interesting that we automatically associate science fiction and/or action with pop, and thus also associate it with fluff, as far as "real" movie definitions are concerned.

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It was a "summer blockbuster", or was supposed to be. It's definitely not an "insider movie"
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Yeah. I agree that was the target for it, and it wasn't an arthouse insider movie.

Just the latest in a long line of high budget critical successes but commercial failures.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
I missed that one. Interestingly, Edge of Tomorrow was a box office flop compared to projections and its peers.

But it was a critical success amongst the reviewers. So technically it wasn't a "pop" movie in the sense that it was actually popular.

But I find it interesting that we automatically associate science fiction and/or action with pop, and thus also associate it with fluff, as far as "real" movie definitions are concerned.

So do English teachers. :-(

Though, to be fair, SF has a large history with pulp novels. Romance is the same way (the Harliquinns I've read were genuinely horrible, I don't mind well-written romances or sex scenes).

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I really want to start a book award for the most gripping books of the year, the ones you don't put down. Yes, DaVinci Code wouldn't have won it in its year, but that's kind of the point.
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