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How pompous can you get!!! Shatner didn't change the world, Gene Roddenbery did. It just blows my mind that Shatner thinks he did it all! Did you ever see him walk on water? I bet he thinks he can.
And you know what's so inferiating is that I think the world of James T. Kirk but can't stand Shatner. I said this once to a friend and she tried to tell me they were one and the same. And I said they weren't. One is a real person, the other a fictional character. Shatner is at the top of my sh** list and will be for a long, long time.
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A bit off topic, but yes, Shatner does think highly of himself. For many years, some of his co-actors apparently held silent disdain for him. Then, when Trek became chic again, they all (except for Nimoy) came out with books denigrating him. Shatner, from what I hear, went to most of them and apologized. He was aparently unaware of any of their feelings about him.
Since then, he has "played-up" his reputation as being an egomaniac. I must say he has tackled the whole situation with quite a bit of self-deprecation and aplomb. The title of the movie How William Shatner Changed the World is a send-up to his less than admirable reputation. I can assure you, however, that he gives all credit to Roddenberry and other ST writers.
The movie Galaxy Quest, also indirectly addressed Shatner's relationship with the rest of the cast.
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Remember that Shatner wasn't first choice to play the captain---Jeffrey Hunter was. (Found out recently that Jeffrey Hunter was also first choice to play the father on "The Brady Bunch," too...)
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No arguement here Crystal. Even as the host he was fairly obnoxious. I allowed my imagination to conjure visions of WS having to bribe the crew to keep working with him long enough to get the thing filmed. At one point it looked like Seven of Nine was going to throw him out of her door... uhmm, kinda. The actual film was how Star Trek (AKA Gene R.) changed the world by influencing grown up Trekkies like myself to invent the cool devices they used; flip cell phone, etc.
I have never seen a single thing outside S.T. I could handle HIM in.
General comment - There are actually two people on record as having walked on water and Shatner was neither...
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I think philo got the intent of your comments, Crystal. I think he's having some fun.
And I recently bought a book that has Shatner's autograph. The publisher of the book indicated that it took some doing to get Shatner to autograph the things, and that he would only do it for the lettered edition, not the numbered edition. Which also explains the price. (Now if I can just find some way to get John Lithgow to sign it.)
Just watched the trailer for Green Lantern, Cowboys and Aliens and Battle:LA
Not quite space adventures but all three look good. Green Lantern has some of it happening in space and I recognized some of the GLs They're using the ones from the comics. Including the one that turns renegade. Not sure about Hal, he seems a bit more happy go lucky but still. Finally GL. More excited about that than I was for Iron Man.
Cowboys has Harrison Ford in it, and Spielburg(?), it has to be better than the name implies. And that wrist contraption. Love that scene where the thing refolds back to its original position and Ford looks at the guy who wears it.
And Battle well, if its as good as the trailer implies it will be worth watching but we shall see if it really is.
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Well, the best thing I've ever seen Shatner in was an episode of The Twilight Zone called "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet"...for those of you who haven't seen it, it's about a guy (Shatner) who's recovering from illness and takes a plane flight, then sees a demonic creature tinkering with the engine. By far the best acting I've ever seen him do---and I've seen Shatner in a lot of things.
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I saw that episode when I was a kid, and it haunted me for years. I can remember walking out on the school playground during recess and cringing when I heard a plane fly overhead.
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That episode was remade for Twilight Zone: The Movie, but I've also seen the original Shatner version several times (I might even have it. Not sure - I'm not home at the moment). Anyway, my wife now hates that episode because every time we fly I'll spontaneously look at her and say, "There's some...THING on the wing!"
I'm not even sure if the Shat actually said that in the episode. I believe he parodied it himself in one of the Airplane movies, and it was also parodied in Ace Ventura 2/
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Yeah, they redid it for the movie, starring John Lithgow...when Shatner guested on 3rd Rock from the Sun, they inserted a joke about it. (Along the lines of "Miserable flight...saw this creature tinkering with the engine"..."The same thing happened to me!")
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I remember Shatner and Nimoy appearing together in an episode of Mission: Impossible after Star Trek: The Original Series went off the air...Nimoy had become a regular on it...as I recall, Shatner played an aging mobster who the MI team conned into thinking he was reliving his younger years---for what purpose, I forget.
I read a book once about Desilu Studios, the original home of both series. Among many other extremely interesting things, it came out that Mission: Impossible continuously blew its budget and came in late, whereas Star Trekalways came in on time and on budget. You would've thought it would be the other way 'round, wouldn't you?
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Its been a very long time but I recall one ep that would have been shot before TOS or they were made to look older in TOS and they both played bit parts or one step above a bit part.
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And some Anime and other types of animation space SF. Some of which have been listed.
There was one group doing an animated version of a lesser known series by David Weber. On their web site they discussed what they were doing, showed examples of the artwork they were going to use, and gave status updates but I lost the link to their site a two or so years ago and so have never heard if they finished the project. They also never, as far as I could find, discussed how they were going to sell the finish product.
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New show on SyFy "Being Human" about a ghost, vampire, werewolf who have to pretend to be human. two guys and a girl. Bet its the girl who is the ghost. Might be interesting but me no got cable.
From the picture I saw of them, I thought it might be some type of space show...all they needed was uniforms- Star Trek maybe. But some type.
Not sure why, most be the way they stood as well as the expressions on their faces. But that seems to be the current look for TV shows.
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Funny...my first thought, from the ads, was that the show involved "space aliens" living secretly on earth, not vampires and whatnots...a couple of reviews disabused me of this notion...I'm disappointed...I probably wouldn't have watched it anyway but now I'm pretty sure I won't.
I gather it's from a British show, that (predictably) the British show is better, and that it's popping up on BBC America. But you'd need cable or satellite to see either version
There's a new movie with scenes that look like streampunk. "Sucker Punch"
Not sure about it because the blurb says it takes place in one girl's fantasy land. So does that mean none of it really is happening and she is just day dreaming about escaping her fate?
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I wish they would do more miniseries and not just for cable. In the 80s we got treated to V, Shaka Zulu, Shogun, North and South, along with an assortment of Sidney Sheldon's stories. I think the format would work so well for Fantasy and Sci-Fi books.
I personally would love to see the Solomon Kane stories by Robert E. Howard adapted into a miniseries.
Maybe Shatner with his supposed billions can produce
Then there's "Game of Thrones." Taken from a book. By George R.R. Martin.
But it's one cable: HBO.
Glad that there is a fantasy show on nTV...glad it was taken from a book.
But as I have complained about before it's the wrong blasted book.
I read bestsellers, some that are very popular, but they hardly ever make a TV show or Movie from one I like. Usually like this one it's one I have never read or even seen.
But as soap operish- a lot of sex, corruption, murder and such, as it is I probably wouldn't watch it even if I got HBO.
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Just finished watching the first episode of "Game of Thrones." I'm not sure I liked it. Too many characters with no one to focus on or root for. It reminded me of a line from Macbeth - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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That article in my local paper mentioned the first ep. It didn't describe what was happening in those words but it did sound like it was going to be busy. But supposedly it settles down after the introductions. But we shall see, or that is some will see.
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Well, redux, from your description, the HBO version of GAME OF THRONES sounds as if it's being true to the book.
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I took a peek at GAME OF THRONES on IMDB and Sean Bean is only in 2 episodes. Now I am really disappointed.
I haven't read the book. I did request a hold on it from my library but the waiting list is long. But if the show is being faithful to the book I am not sure I will like it.
I did enjoy the production value and thought all the actors were very good. It's nice to see the fantasy genre getting the attention it deserves.
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Speaking of Game of Thrones, I'd gladly pay a web service to let me watch it legitimately if I could only find one. For some reason HBO doesn't let you stream it unless you pay for their channel, and since I don't have cable or satellite that's really not an option for me .
Anyone know of a way an honest guy can watch the show he's been waiting years to see?
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You could wait for the inevitable DVD / Blu-Ray. Amazon-dot-com is taking pre-orders, but, as of a few minutes ago, they didn't give a date-of-release...
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You've waited years to see it?? Have they talked about that long?
It sounds like it's doing good even though I haven't seen any ratings, so obviously a lot of people like it but for me they keep picking the wrong novels and the wrong writers to make movies and TV shows from.
On another network instead of Terry Goodkind they should have gotten Terry Brooks. -on a side note I just discovered one maybe two books in his other series, "Kingdom For sale-sold". I lost track of that series a couple of years ago.
There were talks about making David Weber's Honor Harrington series a mini-series but evidently the talks fall through. That would have been good, depending how they did it. I've said this before but a group had been in the process of producing an animated version of another of Weber's series but I lost track of their web site. I wasn't sure about the artwork they were using and I never found any statement if it was for TV or DVD but I would have given it a chance and watched an episode or two.
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Yeah Terry Goodkind was a poor choice for a TV show. I think the biggest problem, though, was that they decided to make an episode by episode Xena clone instead of following the story. But yeah, Sword of Truth was a big disappointment.
I loved the Magic Kingdom of Landover series. Haven't read it for a while but it was fun.
Not too bad a story either. They changed a few things from the comics but I think kept the basics. At least on how he got chosen and about the guardians.
Except for one very important detail. They kinda of used it but not in the right way.
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Some early reviews---of the trailer, I guess---say "John Carter of Mars" looks bad. I dunno...my guess is it probably lacks the constant nudity that made the Mars books seem so interesting when I was sixteen...
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I haven't watched the trailer for Carter so I can't say but as we know many times they get it wrong when the make a book into a movie.
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Some new shows on TV that might be SF or close enough. But I only read a one sentence blurb so I'm not sure about them. But There's Terre Nova I think. And two shows with fairy take connects. Grimm which sounds like the title has a double meaning. And one where the fairy tale characters live in modern times. That one sort of sounded like a comedy but as I said with one sentence I couldn't be sure.
A good UF series would be good though. I think they had and may still do have a couple of paranormal shows but that's not quite the same thing. And most are on cable.
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