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After reading it through twice, I liked the first. I tried the second, and gave up. It was just too tedious, too hard to follow, and too hard to find a reason to care.
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Liked the first, hated the second, liked the third (which I read before I read the second), liked the fourth...lost the ball after that one.
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I haven't read any of them. This is precisely the reason. Anyone I've asked has given mixed reviews. Oh, and being completely worm/snake phobic hasn't helped.
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I'm not going to crucify you for your opinion. People have different tastes.
However, I loved the series. The only one I had a hard time with was God Emperor of Dune. I liked the complete flip-flop of society in the later Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse Dune.
I think Dune was a brilliant series, sadly left uncompleted. It not only encompassed The Iliad, but predicted the current Gulf Wars decades ahead of time.
quote: Not sure why they are "SF Classics."
To answer your question:
Elements of Dune can be found in much of Sci-Fi, from Steve Perry's Matador series to Star Wars. Also, it is like the Lord of the Rings of Sci-fi -- with the exception that each component of the story is a stand-alone novel.
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Just because I didn't like it doesn't mean it isn't good fiction. I didn't care for Lord of the Rings either, and there's a world of people out there who feel otherwise. I think it was my lack of ability to connect with any characters in either series that kept me from really getting into them.
But it is a classic, it's had a significant influence on the SF genre, and my opinion of it doesn't change that at all.
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I take it a lot of people who hang 'round here belong to a younger crowd, and haven't touched base with the many SF classics that influenced me so. So much of it is unavailable, out of print or in hard-to-get "special" editions...
Fair's fair, though...I've read only a smattering of the recent stuff, a lot of which is probably just as good as the "classics" I remember.
(For lack of a better place, I'll mention I just picked up another reprint, a new collection by the late Poul Anderson: To Outlive Eternity and Other Stories. Some great stuff in there. I'm still impressed by Anderson's work---but I was quite shocked to realize it's been at least twenty-five years, maybe longer, since I last read "No Truce With Kings," collected within. The collection seems to be easily available...if you're curious, pick it up.)
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I just got done reading the first book and am trying to hunt down the second (my library loves to leave at least one book out of any given series - they have most of the Ender books except Ender's Game itself...)
Anyway, I loved it. And I'm in the younger generation. I loved how complex it was, a "meat" story and not just glamorous fluff. Seems to me there's not too many of those these days...
I did see the influence it had on Star Wars, definately.
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I've read and reread the series many times, as well as the not nearly as good prequels that Herberts son and Anderson have published.
Dune - Loved it Dune, Messiah - Least favorite but still enjoyed it
Children of Dune - Nice twists and has a flavor similar to the first book
God Emperor or Dune - Radical departure in tone, this is where alot of people stop reading them, it is a good book but aside from setting bears little resemblence to the earlier books.
Heretics of Dune - Continues the tone of God Emperor and is enjoyable if you can make the shift
Chapterhouse Dune - This is often belittled as nothing but two nuns arguing for 600 pages, I did not find the book to be like that at all, I thought the dialogue they had was well interspersed with the Bashar storyline and it even kind of ended with a classic cliffhanger.
The prequel books are worth reading just to glimpse the source material that Frank Herbert was working from as executed by his son and Anderson.
The pre-prequels set during the original Jihad were not so interesting, but still worth a look if you are a true Dunehard fan.