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Dobbie
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Dodgeball only has to make about $20 million in order for the total grosses of all of Ben Stiller's 2004 movies (Dodgeball, Starsky and Hutch, and Envy) to exceed what Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban made in its first week.
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TomDavidson
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Hm. I think it's a long shot.
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Did you intend that pun, Tom? Very clever.
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msquared
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Tom

Did you like playing dodgeball as a kid?

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Lupus
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I loved dodge ball, all the bleeding hearts that whine that it is too mean annoy me. Hell, I was a small kid in elementary school through high school. I did not out grow most people until college. Even as a small guy I loved dodge ball. As long as the school does not do something stupid like using a hard ball instead of a typical kickball type thing you can't really get hurt any worse then kids frequently get hurt messing around. Hell...I hurt myself on my bike on many occasions and I don't think bikes should be banned.
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I agree, lupus. I was also a tiny wimp, but I loved dodge-ball. Except when I went up against the 17-year-old 7th grader we had. That guy was *mean*.
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Annie
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In elementary gym class, we had these fluffy mop-like balls that we got to use for dodgeball. I always liked to pretend they were tribbles.
Then, years later, I had a tribble (that my mom bought me because I felt so bad that she got to the Star Trek convention without me) that squeaked when you squeezed it. My friend Kat threw it really hard at my head one night and broke it.

Is there some sort of sick irony in that or am I just a really big nerd?

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mr_porteiro_head
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Both. [Razz]
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quote:
I always liked to pretend they were tribbles.

Ahhhh...((((tribbles))))

I remember being so completely bummed out that tribbles were not real.

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Richard Berg
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I'll bet I was smaller/skinnier than any of you growing up, so nyah. Wanna fight about it? Of course not, because dodgeball taught me anger management skills. If you can dodge a brawl, you can dodge a ball.

Seriously...I couldn't throw very well or catch very well, but I had a blast regardless. Scrawny kids get to practice actual, you know, dodging.

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Yes, but in the long run, Potter may exceed the three films (added together) in total gross.
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Well, I think Ben Stiller has already outgrossed Harry Potter. Some of the scenes in There's Something About Mary already have Harry Potter outgrossed by a long shot.

No contest. None at all.

Sheesh.

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...?

Ooooh, hehe, I get it... "gross".

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sndrake
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[Razz]

I'm kinda in one of those moods.

It looks like I might have killed the current gun control thread due to my current lack of interest in refraining from posting silliness.

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fallow
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If anyone has a few moments to waste and a good theory, can you explain Stiller's career to me?

please?

*perpetually baffled by the B.S. phenomenon*

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Jalapenoman
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The explanation for Stiller's career resides in a couple of phenomenon:

1. The Peter Principle: People rise to their greatest level of incompetence. Look at the lack of acting ability/talent of most of the action stars (Wham Bam Van Damme, Governor Arnie, Vin Deisel, Steven Seagal)

2. Family: Look at who his parents are. Look at the abundance of offspring of successful actors who have little or no talent. Fortunately, most of these flame out pretty quick (like most of Martin Sheen's kids). Unfortunately, some of them hang around forever (like Drew Barrymore).

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fallow
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Which one does Stiller fit into?

I'm not convinced that either applies. Certainly Barrymore hasn't promoted herself the way Stiller has? And, she's certainly got more screen presence than Ben - doesn't need to don a silly mustache.

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I found the listing of dark comedies this links to fascinating.
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I actually think Stiller is a pretty good actor, he just (in my opinion) keeps doing crap roles. I don't know how much of that is his choice and how much is just fate, but I think he could rise above those crude teen comedys he's most famous in. The Royal Tenenbaums is a good example of him doing just that.

Hobbes [Smile]

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Ron Lambert
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Jalapenoman, I think you underestimate Schwarzenegger. Did you see him in Junior where he played a man who gets pregnant? He has played a wide range of roles, and is not afraid to play a role that makes fun of himself. Sure, that Mr. Universe physique enables him to play the Terminator with frightening cinema verité, but he can also be the goofy dad who is desperate to find a Christmas present he promised to his son, when they're all sold out. He can play a pregnant man dressed up as a woman checking into a refuge for pregnant women. (I mean, you can't believe how absurd he looks dressed up as a woman!) And that line, where he tries to explain his appearance by saying he was forced to take steroids while on the East German Women's Olympic Team, is just hilarious! And where he displays the mood swings of pregnancy, gets so emotional and sensitive, he shows acting ability enough to get way out of himself. He was good teamed up with Danny Devito in Twins.
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I like Ben Stiller. I thought "Meet The Parents" was hilarious, and I have every intention of seeing Dodgeball, especially now that the reviews are out. It seems most critics actually like it.

It'll probably be a rental, though. My movie money is saved for Spider-Man 2 and purchasing a ton that I'm behind on (I haven't bought The Two Towers yet, let alone ROTK).

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Ryuko
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I hate to admit this, but though I don't like Ben Stiller, his movie Zoolander and I had a short but torrid love affair.

"Have you ever wondered if there was more to life, other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking?"

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Salaam
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ahh, you could quote for hours

"My three friends died in a freak, gasoline fight accident"

"What IS this! A school for ants? It has to be like three times that big!"

"At The Derrick Zoolander Center for Kids who can't read good and want to learn how to do other stuff good too...."

"I think I have the black lung pops"

" You have, 10,000 unheard messages Hmm, that is a bit more than usual"

but by far the best, though not said by Ben Stiller,
"Wait, the files are IN the computer!?!?!"

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