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sndrake
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I just tried going to Hatrack through Explorer and I got a page - something about Apache software - saying if I was seeing it the site was having problems.

I did the same thing on AOL and merely ended up with a nasty and vulgar message that looked like the site had been hacked - "Spykids ownzzz your security, etc."

I was able to get in by accessing the URL of the message board through my "history" list. Apparently, I only get stopped if I go to just plain old "hatrack.com" - anybody else notice this?

Are we gonna be down soon for a purging of invading hacker stuff?

[ June 28, 2004, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]

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I'm sure as hell not going to Hatrack.com to test it. [Angst] Report your post have them check it out...
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I see that as well. How stupid.
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I got the message when I first signed on too. Speaking of obscene language--Cheney would be proud!
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Frankly--and I don't mean to be rude or one of those surly oldbies--I think we've covered that topic sufficiently today.
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See, and this is why I never, ever leave. [Big Grin]
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I got that message too. I wonder if the mods know about this?
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Yep...it's there on the home page.

Jerks.

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Jon Boy
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No, saxon, I don't think you get it. See, Cheney recently used the "f" word in the Senate. And the "f" word is on the front page. So since Cheney said that word, he'd probably approve of its use by these hackers. Get it? Not only is it a keen insight, but it's a scathing political commentary, too. High comedy, no doubt.
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You guys do know that there's been a hack to web sites that can actually hack certain versions of IE, right?

So if you have IE, don't go there!

Dagonee
Edit: Job Boy, I think it would be impolitic of me to tell you how much I enjoyed that...

[ June 28, 2004, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

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Jon Boy
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Job Boy?

But however you choose to spell my name, I'm glad you enjoyed my remarks.

[ June 28, 2004, 07:28 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]

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skillery
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Looks like these kids are enjoying their Summer vacation. Go outside and build a treehouse or dig a tunnel in the back yard!
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I just tried it using firefox and got the same message.
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at least they only hacked the main page, and did not take the forums down...though the admins and mods should change their passwords, since if they felt like it they could have downloaded the UBB password files so they can log in as admins/mods and mess with things at a later date.
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Oh, I get it now. Thanks, Jon.
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Jobe Boy?

That could be really annoying.

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Hmm. Crap, I visited there with IE.

I'll let you know if my computer starts setting off Soviet missiles or something.

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L-_1!! $$%SS@MLX<XM#)55@1X2V4

My query is as follows: Is the sit installing all sorts of viruses on us?

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quote:
Frankly--and I don't mean to be rude or one of those surly oldbies--
Oh, I think that's exactly what you meant to be.

And I know what thread you're talking about--good job of derailing it! [Big Grin]

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No, it really was not my intention to be rude or surly. I just think that that topic has proven to be rather inflammatory, and I would really prefer to limit the opportunity for heated fighting.

If you think I was being intentionally rude then I apologize.

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sndrake
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Well, I reported my own message with a brief note (I think I blew the whistle on a post all of once - the original post gets included in the message to the mod, right?)

See what happens...

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skillery
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I was hoping the hackers could search the UBB userlist and give us a definitive list of all users and their alternative logins. Maybe we'll find that only 30 of us are real.
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quote:
If you think I was being intentionally rude then I apologize.
Accepted, though I'm sure I deserved it.
BTW, I thought of a recent article I read when I saw your apology.
The Sorry State of Remorse

And Job Boy, I should be apologizing to you! I feel like I'm (albeit indirectly) responsible for your new name!

[ June 28, 2004, 08:11 PM: Message edited by: Shepherdess ]

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Nato
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If it's an Apache server, it's not going to have the problems that people using Microsoft IIS are having. It won't mess up your computer, even if you visit the page with Internet Explorer.

Silly little hacker kiddies.

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sndrake
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Skillery,

I already covered that in the Extra-Delicious FAQ for Newcomers

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On the surface, Hatrack appears to be populated with thousands of registered members.

In fact, there are an estimated 15-20 people doing all the posting here. The rest are screen names for their "alter egos." There are entire threads that are composed of nothing more than one individual "talking" with his or her alters.



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Has anyone emailed the admins about this? And what kind of a person would do this to hatrack??? [Cry]
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quote:
at least they only hacked the main page, and did not take the forums down...though the admins and mods should change their passwords, since if they felt like it they could have downloaded the UBB password files so they can log in as admins/mods and mess with things at a later date.
I bet the password file is encrypted. Although even with a list of encrypted passwords it may be possible for hackers to write themselves cookies that allow them to be logged on. Still, changing passwords is frequently a good idea after something like this.
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sndrake
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I just now tried the main page on aol here at home and it came up clean. Looks like maybe they changed the locks on the front door. [Smile]
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skillery
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sndrake:

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...In fact...
So Hatrack's UBB userlist has been hacked before?
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I was hoping the hackers could search the UBB userlist and give us a definitive list of all users and their alternative logins.
Why would you hope for that?
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I bet the password file is encrypted.
I doubt it, I used to run a UBB board and the password file was not encrypted...they had you put in in a directory that could not be accessed via the website (ie: you needed FTP access to get to it) but since they changed the index file they have FTP access. We don't use UBB anymore though, so things might have changed.

Another thing the admins need to be careful of, is it would be possible for the person to create new admin accounts for themselves. This is easy to double check (just make sure that there are no accounts that have admin access that should not have it).

All of this is rather unlikely...it would be a lot effort to go through, unless the job was personal (rather than someone just screwing around with a popular site)

[ June 28, 2004, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Lupus ]

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so, is there a windows-based browser that is less vulnerable to these security problems? and free?
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Use firefox.
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Job Boy:
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Why would you hope for that?
To prove to the perpetually ornery and ever vigilant leader of the Utah Chapter of the Hatrack Mid-20's Clique that I am not another incarnation of OSC-fan.
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Seems to be back up and in working order ... unless there is now something MORE insidious going on ...
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okay, I'm test-driving firefox now ... we'll see how this goes.
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There's always something more insidious going on. Trust me - I remember the Nixon years.

[Big Grin]

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Oooh Look! OSC has written the intro to a new edition of When the Sleeper Wakes by H. G. Wells!!! WOW!

One of my favorite stories of all time. I'm dying to read what he says about it.

I actually proposed that my family band together and start a multi-generational bank account and keep it going as a legacy for the next several hundred years just to see if we would end up owning EVERYTHING like that guy in the story did.

Bwah ahahahahah

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isnt there a maximun amount of money allowed in a bank account? That wouldn't work out too well Bob.

[ June 28, 2004, 09:57 PM: Message edited by: Little_Doctor ]

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Well, *I* have only ever posted under this username.

However, I'm not real.

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Also, I like English muffins. With nutella. Or butter. But not both at once.
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LD:
1) you incorporate
2) you spread the money over several banks and several accounts within banks, and other investments...

3) It'd probably work better than the savings plan I have now.

[Razz]

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lol i don't know these things Bob. Im not even done with high school. I learned maybe 60 minutes worth of garbage about banks in Jr. high.

[ June 28, 2004, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: Little_Doctor ]

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Well, don't listen to me, I got my investment idea from a science fiction story about a guy who fell asleep and woke up owning the world.
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Hey, whatever floats your boat.
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I think I saw an infomercial for that last night.
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quote:
To prove to the perpetually ornery and ever vigilant leader of the Utah Chapter of the Hatrack Mid-20's Clique that I am not another incarnation of OSC-fan.
And who would that be?

Oh, and please don't call me Job Boy.

[ June 28, 2004, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]

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quote:

Oh, and please don't call me Job Boy.

That name is reserved only for his special friends.
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Thank you for speaking for me, random stranger.
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Oh, don't mention it, and I'm just returning the favor.
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