The title. What are each and everyone's real expectations of Hatrack, ultimately? What do you want of each individual, and what from the community as a whole entity?
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A safe haven for discussion of almost everything, where I can be assured of intelligent response from people who agree with me, people who disagree with me but will explain why without scorn, and everyone in between.
A place to find out about new stuff that interests me.
A chance to get sneak previews at new OSC stuff
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I personally expect it to save the world, by bringing together people of goodwill and intelligence worldwide, and forming bonds of friendship and caring around the globe.
This network formed of the very people who (if anyone can) will be able to provide leadership, and intelligent solutions to problems, and who take personal responsibility for the planet and all its inhabitants, has the potential to fundamentally change the history of the solar system toward a more benevolent and sensible form of human stewardship of all earth life.
Aim high, is what I say. No sense in thinking small.
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So, if we, the intelligent, try to save the world - how come it works? There are no spammers around with new offers to enlarge your !@#$%^&, do !@#$%^&, or take !@#$%^&.
Ths is truly remarkable! About 99.8 of the posts are written in real, proper English [with capitals and punctuation, amazingly correct in most cases), and more than 0.3% words that your average man doesn't know ("Interrogate... please split it up for me")]. The actual level of the discussion is 'slightly' more profound than other forums.
How come?! Is it because to be part of this forum you needed to have read OSC's books, or fake it well? Well, you do need to have over 115 (at least) IQ to understand OSC truly.
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Mostly I just like to hear what people have to say. I like seeing debates and seeing both sides of issues as well as just general fun information. Also, I would like to become a stonger writer and be able to back up more of what I say, but I'm still working up the courage to write something of importance for fear of getting bashed into the ground...I'm getting there I think...
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quote:Ths is truly remarkable! About 99.8 of the posts are written in real, proper English [with capitals and punctuation, amazingly correct in most cases), and more than 0.3% words that your average man doesn't know ("Interrogate... please split it up for me")]. The actual level of the discussion is 'slightly' more profound than other forums.
Long-time posters, cohesive community, merciless mocking for those who violate community conventions, and love and acceptance for all who maintain a minimum standard of civilization.
Or, fans of Orson Scott Card are just better people.
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Readers of Sci-fi and Fantasy in general, with that as a filter you get higher intellegence, it is like the Chess Club or D&D club, lots of nerds. (and closet nerd jock hicks like me) Start there and then add the fact that discussing important issues is mankinds oldest and most natural form of entertainment (besides sex) and you get people who are willing to stick around and listen. Oh and lots of soft targets!
quote: It is saddening, but who said humans are civilised?
well most do live in cities, wait is that true? I know it is in the USA and Europe but is it true world wide? I wonder... well looks like 48% Urban, sorry I guess most of us are not civilized.
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You're saying, essentially, that we are acting like Aristotle and Ptolemais, except we're several hundred active philosophers, and several thousand partly passive ones?
Jonny
P.S. I should start my philosophical quotes, I'm sick of Murphy!
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quote:Well, you do need to have over 115 (at least) IQ to understand OSC truly.
I'm starting to see IQ scores as the equivalent of beauty pagent points for brains. Narrow, boxed-in, inaccurate and ultimately meaningless.
I just read a interview with Stephen Hawking in The New York Times. The interviewer asked him what his IQ is, and he said, "I have no clue. People who brag about their IQs are losers." The idea of that line coming out of electronic voice synthesizer slayed me.
(Sorry kid, I didn't mean to pick on your post. It just made me think of it.)
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quote: It is saddening, but who said humans are civilised?
Well most do live in cities, wait is that true? I know it is in the USA and Europe but is it true world wide? I wonder...
Does that really mean much? Prejudices exist, and I hear them daily. "Death to the Arabs! Kill them all like rats.", more like "deth twoo the arabs lill them aul".
When you think of it, communal living doesn't necessarily make us smarter, it can have the opposite effect. I guess that since no one here loathes me, (are you people hiding secrets behind your back?) I'm pretty much civilised. Is that the ultimate test?
quote: The problem with Hatrack is that it's full of OSC little fans
Much less on this side, you 'SD.Net'er! I'm a Hatracker! And proud of it!
quote: I'm starting to see IQ scores as the equivalent of beauty pagent points for brains.
'I queue'? (I know what it really is!) I think that it still measures our level of logical capabilities and their expressions.
I have a useless suggestion! Why don't we all make up our own "Hatrack IQ": Every smart comment will raise it, and every stupid post, or lost logical case, if it wasn't a well-represented one will decrease your points.
Damn, I'm now at -10, due to this post!
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I wandered in to the forums quite a while after I had discovered Hatrack.com. I joined so I could respond to Twinky's thread about Radiohead.
I'm not sure why I've stayed so long. I usually feel somewhat out of place here, and my attempts to participate in discussions often leave me feeling frustrated and disconnected. I don't know how to be a community builder.
But there's always something to read and think about here, and it's a good foil for all the marketing writing I have to do all day.
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I'm determined to never check my actual IQ. Every fun test I take makes me look dumb.I don't want the real ones to confirm that. I'd much rather keep living thinking I'm so very smart.
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I really think that the Cards should provide some sort of effective valium-type thing for all of us. We could all have a little case that we carry around with us that reads "open in case of Hatrack outage."
As mack notes, the elevator music and "Don't Panic!" just don't cut it.
[and shouldn't "Don't Panic" signs not come attached to exclamation points?]
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quote: and shouldn't "Don't Panic" signs not come attached to exclamation points?
In capitals + exclamation marks. Need I mention that was irony? (Oh, wait... You were ironic... Stupid Howard! Stupid Howard! *Bangs head on wall, feels like Dobby and wonders why, in OSC's name, he used Harry Potter for this*, *Wonders why he used OSC's name*, *Wonders why he wastes your time reading this*.)
Jonny
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No, I don’t build them. That happens at the other end of the factory. I just sit in my little office and give them advice when their positrons go sour.
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I got hooked on the puns but, I stayed because the community is compassionate, informed and varied. It really boils down to the sense of community. That is what I want and why I stay.
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quote: Ths is truly remarkable! About 99.8 of the posts are written in real, proper English [with capitals and punctuation, amazingly correct in most cases), and more than 0.3% words that your average man doesn't know ("Interrogate... please split it up for me")]. The actual level of the discussion is 'slightly' more profound than other forums.
It's a complex system of rewards and punishments that keeps this place what it is. Trolls and rabble-rousers may have fun here for a little while, but they tend to either get bored with the lack of satisfying response, banned, or shape up and become long-term, valued members of the society.
The community feel is what attracted me to Hatrack also.
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