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Jonathan Howard
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How serious could those punishments be?
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Kayla
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Jonathan, is English your second language?
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Well... that all depends on what you think is most serious. Which would you prefer: being banned from Hatrack, or being kept lovingly as Hatrack's village idiot? See, it is all a matter of perspective.
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Jonathan Howard
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I'm bilingual. I've natively an English speaker, but at the speed I write I have many typos.

Being bilingual causes me to translate phrases occasionally, and vary the correct syntax. I'm the son of an English teacher, so I occasionally write 'rimes' and confuse pluralising of nouns. I might write down 'vira' instead of viruses (I'm studying Latin), and Greek plurals I never study.

That's the trouble of etimological studies and my unusual character combined. Any further inquiries?

Jonny

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Well there is a big difference between digging a well and building an aqueduct. I do not know the generally accepted number, but so long as a significant fraction of your community engages in some form of agriculture, you are not a city. The art of living in cities is the breaking up of the workforce into specific job tasks. Many of which do not exist without the city itself, such as sewer repair, fire man, and PEST councilor.

Civilization is the Art of Living in Cities, so it seems pretty clear that we are civilized, so were the Romans and the Babylonians. Civilization may allow for a whole range of behavioral norms as long as somebody takes out the trash.

BC

[ December 16, 2004, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: Bean Counter ]

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katharina
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quote:
Civilization is the Art of Living in Cities
You keep repeating this as if it were true.
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Jonathan Howard
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OK, it's 1:52 PM and I have no energy to argue. This essentially means I give up. Due to tchnology we are more urbanised...

What was the argument about... Oh, right! Whether we are CULTURED or not... *Change of terminology.*

Jonny

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It's mostly in caps, Kat. It has to be true.
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Yes I do!

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[edit: this is directed at Jonathan.]

Not really. You just use some odd phrasing that made me wonder. If English were your second language, I would have been very impressed. I like to know odd things about people, it seems.

You seem to be mad at me, and I'm sorry about that. Hatrack is supposed to be fun, and I think you might be taking some of my wise ass quips a bit too seriously. Yes, Bok is hot, but it's not actually going to change how I interact with him. The cooties thing is just me being me. You'll get used to me.

For your spelling errors, which it seems to me, increase exponentially the more often you post to a single thread, can be fixed quite easily with a quick download from www.iespell.com However, it's not that big of a deal and even with it, you'll sometimes forget to use and make a mistake anyway and that will be the one time someone will quote you and it will live for eternity. [Embarrassed] As to the unique phrasing, I thought it was cute. It just made me wonder what you native language was, so I clicked on your profile and noticed you were in Israel which made me wonder if English was a second language. Sorry if I've offended you.

[ December 16, 2004, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: Kayla ]

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Jonathan Howard
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Ralphie... You are a classic.

hy do I keep on judging people? *Bad Jonny! Bad Jonny!*

I have a Déja vu!

Jonny

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Mostly I just like to hear what people have to say. I like seeing debates and seeing both sides of issues as well as just general fun information.
Word. While I don't feel like I can participate in the hot discussions much, they always help me figure out how I really feel about the subject in question. It's mind-bending here at hatrack.

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I got hooked on the puns but, I stayed because the community is compassionate, informed and varied. It really boils down to the sense of community. That is what I want and why I stay.
Everything in that statement is true for me except the part about the puns. I love the puns, but I am a crappy pun-thinker-upper.

Oh, and Begging the Question. I'm here to keep that thread from dying.

*goes to revive the thread*

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Jonathan Howard
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You seem to be mad at me, and I'm sorry about that.
Nobody's mad. Really. I'm just a very bad typist... Bilinguality does make me weird in my writings. Hatrack is fun, yet misunderstandings occur...

I can talk in better Shakespeare syntax!

Jeez, I need tea...

Jonny

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And if I remember correctly, Jonathan is young. I always give allowance for young-ness where grammar, spelling, etc. are concerned.

I, on the other hand, have no excuse. [Big Grin]

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Jonathan Howard
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I always give allowance for young-ness where grammar, spelling, etc. are concerned.
Bah! I feel incompetent for this forum.

Jonny

P.S. Am I the youngest regular poster? (14.5 y.o.)

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Friends and debate!

Long live Hatrack!

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Kayla
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Jonathan, no, you are not the youngest poster. And I really never questioned your age, though I assumed you were a teenager, but it was just a couple of odd phrases that made me wonder. You aren't incompetent, but perhaps a bit eager.
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Jonathan Howard
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Eager for what, integration into Hatrack?
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beverly
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Jon, I am old enough to be your mom. That is, if I were your current age when I conceived. [Razz]
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Kayla
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Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I just realized you are my son's age! Granted he's a "special" [Wink] child and all but I just can't imagine him ever being able to, or wanting to, post at Hatrack. I'm so old.
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Nobody else shares my interests and my introversion so perfectly.

[Big Grin]

EDIT: That's not an expectation. I expect to converse with people who share my interests and introversion perfectly [Wink] .

Okay, perhaps not perfectly...

[ December 16, 2004, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]

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I don't know. My other friends who are on other forums make fun of me, because to them my forum is an old people and mormon forum. (Most of them post on Something Awful and Gaia) I don't feel any better or worse than them for posting on a forum like this while they post on theirs. It's just that with a forum that has a small(er) population like this, I feel like I can get a community around me and a group of support people who can give me an objective opinion.

Honestly, this was the first forum I've joined that I've continued to post on for a prolonged period of time. I don't even remember whether or not I've been in any forums before this. Weird.

I guess I just expect Hatrack to be there. It's kind of my home on the net.

Wow, boy, you're just a little older than my little sister. Jeez you're a smart young man.

[ December 16, 2004, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]

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My expectation is that when I say something, or ask a question, no one tells me "That's wierd" or "You think too much".
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That's weird.

[Wink]

[ December 16, 2004, 08:17 PM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]

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[Razz]
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[Big Grin] ((((Amka))))
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Hmm . . . I want to marry Bokonon.
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A place where people are caring most of the time, and honest and open all of the time (ok, maybe almost all of the time?).

The other fora that I frequent (with the exception of the various Hatrack satellites) all have a general tendency to be heavily moderated. This means people tend to walk on eggshells -- or risk seeing posts disappear, or threads get locked.

While the bile and bad feelings that come from some of our hot-button threads are unpleasant, we can HAVE those threads. And for the most part, they don't get zapped, locked, etc.

On one of the other boards I frequent, a recent political thread -- which had NOT even gotten nasty -- got locked. The explanation given was that it looked like it might be getting nasty (which was a real possibility), and previous experience made the moderators agree to nip it in the bud. Personally, that sort of attitude is why I visit there occasionally, but no longer call it home. (Especially combined with the tendency of the nastiness to then get discussed behind people's backs in IRC.)

Hatrack: we may not always be nice, but we're always honest. Sometimes painfully so. [Wink]

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What's the forum rivka?
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quote:
Civilization is the Art of Living in Cities
Every once in awhile, believe it or not, I meet civilised people out here in the sticks.

Oh, also - I brought the refreshements.
*hands around vegetable platters and hummus*

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Hatrack: we may not always be nice, but we're always honest.
I think you should add "unless people are trying to guess your gender. In which case, feel free to screw with their minds."
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Every once in awhile, believe it or not, I meet civilised people out here in the sticks.

And, believe it or not, most people I meet in Phoenix are everything but civilized. [Smile]
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I'd rather not specify, Noemon. I mentioned it only for illustrative purposes.
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Jonathan Howard
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Most people I meet in Phoenix are everything but civilized.
People in Jerusalem are not even close to that.

A Kurdish kid once said to me (in Hebrew):

He: "Will you stop it! All you !@#$%^& Americans! That !@#$%^& English you speak! Get a life! Speak Hebrew God dammit!"

I: "Listen to me, you Moroccan-"

He: "HEY! DON'T YOU CALL ME MOROCCAN! I'M KURDISH!"

I: "I know that. I'm not American. I'm Australian; don't ever call me American or you'll find youself in severe agony. In addition, I'd love to speak Hebrew with you, once you learn how to speak the language properly."

You see, culture is abscent, civilisation is a step beyond that, if - and only if - you relate to the context it was originally said in.

Jonny

P.S. Sorry for posting so late, I was asleep.

[ December 17, 2004, 03:43 AM: Message edited by: Jonathan Howard ]

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Hatrack is my hometown.
Hatrack is a place where I can find interest and compassion.
Hatrack is a place where I can seek advices.
Hatrack is a place where I can debate of my ideas with people who really want to debate and not to shout their opinion to each other.
Hatrack makes me think. Often. And sometimes changes my mind, or on the contrary helps me to discover the real reasons behind my opinions.
Hatrack makes me laugh too. Often.
Hatrack is a big window open on the world around.
I love Hatrack.
[Kiss] to my fellow Hatrackers.

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Jonathan Howard
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[Wave] Hello, Hatrack!
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No problem rivka.
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I stay with Hatrack (even when I try not to) because it is mostly intelligent conversation -- something that is hard to find these days. I like hanging with intelligent people who make me think -- broaden my world view.

I often don't agree with everything said; and sometimes I even go the whole range of emotions (anger, sad, happy) through Hatrack posts for the day, but overall my experiences here have, I think, help to form me into someone with a rounder viewpoint than I had before I came here.

FG

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I'm here for the pie.
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Oh, that is true also. There is always someone to bring food for parties.
Party !
[The Wave]

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And, believe it or not, most people I meet in Phoenix are everything but civilized.
DaG, stop talking about me behind my back. Wait, or was that in reference to slacker? But you are right, I've met plenty of people who've never lived in anything larger than a farm cluster that I'd happily call civilised, and plenty of city dwellers that I'd like to see their land-dwelling privileges revoked.

I'll have to ponder upon a serious answer to the thread though, other that to break my work day up into bite sized chunks.

Feyd Baron, DoC

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You good folks here at Hatrack help me focus my thoughts. You help me to take a step back and think about why I hold certain beliefs and opinions. You help me to look at all sides of an issue. And for the most part I have found a community that values tolerance in a way that is almost nonexistent in the real world. Hatrack is a very refreshing place to be! (Of course there are a few notable exceptions to this, as has been noted in the "Who is poisoning the well at Hatrack thread".

Oh.. and I look really cool to my friends.. with all the cool links I e-mail them that you all provide me here in Hatrack!! [Big Grin]

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I'm here for the same reasons as Kat's first post. Although not in that order.
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Kat's first post is here because she put it here. Kat put you here? How did she do that?
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There's a reason she's known as SuperKat . . .

*wise nod*

*mysterious look*

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