1. This one depends on the villian having evil emotions in the first place. First, some of them do NOT, and are simply foolishly misguided. That doesn't count the greater threat, which comes from those who feel nothing at all, and simply want to spread that emptiness.
2. Hmm. Depends. Some of the supervillians may be helped, but the ones who followed it up with massacring their classmates, well... those will be problematic. Some of them you won't get through psychoanalysis.
3. Super strength would beat this one easily. Or psychic powers.
4. Hmm. The villian or the person doing the defeating?
Ahh. This isn't about that new Underdog movie, is it?
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Anyway, beating supervillians depends on several things:
What genre the show is, how powerful the villian is, and further, what age group is designed to watch. Further, the amount of sillyness counts, as well as the amount of forethought put into the story.
And then there's the situations where the bad guys win, and all is lost. Not common, yes, but since in the real world evil triumphs as often as good, it's not at all inconcievable.
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1. This was the way Tim Allen's character beat the Big Bad in 2006's Zoom. No, really.
2. This was a playful reference to the way Xander got through to Willow during the Season Six Buffy the Vampire Slayer finale.
3. This was the way the Batman of the Tim Burton films killed the Joker. Kinda weird, eh?
4. As Beren and Luthien found out, not even the darkest of Dark Lords can defeat a talking dog. They're just so cool.
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The first is from one of the Song of Ice and Fire books - I won't spoil it for anyone, but somebody shoots somebody while they're using the toilet.
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Well I suppose with all the talk of violence in the media it wont surprise anyone to hear that I'm pretty sure I've seen someone shot while using the toilet on TV.
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: Well I suppose with all the talk of violence in the media it wont surprise anyone to hear that I'm pretty sure I've seen someone shot while using the toilet on TV.
Hobbes
I know I've seen a T-Rex devour a lawyer that was sitting on the john.
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5. Have a powerless, wisecracking teen cram the MacGuffin into their chest cavity, killing them in the massive flux of CGI FX energies then released.
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Have them obtain the MacGuffin, but then be destroyed by their failure to successfully wield its power.
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Bruce Willis Kills John Travolta in Pulp Fiction while the later is just coming out of the bathroom, but I don't think that counts.
I find the best way to ensure a villain dies is to just send a big vat of acid to his secret hideout. During the action, one way or another, he'll end up in it. I like to think of it as the 'final solution'.
*ducks and runs from the pun police*
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Villains only die by falling into acid at the end of a movie, so you have to be careful with that. If it's the beginning of a movie, or if it's a franchise, you risk turning them into supervillains.
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I actually READ the Silmarillion (I assume that's where the dog comes in) but I don't remember it. My favorite part from that is where Ungoliant eats herself.
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Mis-spell 'villain' as 'villian' until the miscreant undergoes Total Grammar Collapse! (All supervillains are, of course, member of the Grammar Communist Secret Police.)
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1. Break into the courtroom and execute him, with the help of your father and Willem Dafoe.
2. Let him kill you, because you are his retainer, after all; but only after killing his entire family, because they were plotting to kill him.
3. Realize he is your alter-ego. Shoot yourself through the cheek, which equals shooting him in the head.
4. Cast him as the main supporting role in your play about Vietnam (thereby getting him on your side.)
4a. Realize that the girl you've both been pining for is out of your reach; help him get her.
5. Stop taking your feelings suppressants. Join the underground. Realize that he is using the image of the founder to manipulate people. Have a spectacular sword and gun duel with Taye Diggs and then the true villain.
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quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Have them obtain the MacGuffin, but then be destroyed by their failure to successfully wield its power.
Hey look its the plot of Indiana Jones ROTLA, and TLC.
Have the villain, and the hero fight over the tiny bag containing the MacGuffin. The hero should then start babbling in Hindi, which will scare the hell out of the villain, thus allowing the hero to hit him once solidly. The villain should then fall down to his certain demise.
You could however argue, the MacGuffin burning the hands of the villain, but not Indy makes the movie pretty much the same thing.
I just realized that Indiana Jones movies have really dumb ways of killing the villain on paper, but when you see the movie for the first time, it seems so cool.
quote:The first is from one of the Song of Ice and Fire books - I won't spoil it for anyone, but somebody shoots somebody while they're using the toilet.
quote:The first is from one of the Song of Ice and Fire books - I won't spoil it for anyone, but somebody shoots somebody while they're using the toilet.
*snerffle* Not quite!
Is it stabs? Dang, it's been a long time since I read that one. Memory... failing... brain... old...
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I do believe that if you allow the villain to strike you down, you will eventually overcome him, because in death you will be even more formidable than you were in life.
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MightyCow: I'm pretty sure the level of weaponry in the entire Song of Fire and Ice series has in no way reach rifles, pistols, or the like.
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Let villain two hurt you a lot so that villain one has an attack of conscience and kills villain two. It helps to have villain one be your dad.
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Shot is the correct verb for what happens to the villain in Song of Ice and Fire. "Shot" does not mean it must be with a gun.
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1. Pour a bucket of water on her, in an attempt to extinguish her burning clothes.
2. Allow them to get infected with earth's super potent viruses.
3. Be exceedingly beautiful, and also rather vapid and helpless, so that you will not want for foolish heroes to show up and rescue you, killing the super-villain in the process.
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Well, I know that #4 in Puffy's first post is none other than Dean Koontz. You can actually pick almost any of his novels to find the super-villain who loves pulling his victim's eyes out of their sockets, being pursued by a hyper-intelligent dog.
In fact, I just "read" the audio book "Brother Thomas," and I remember calling my wife part-way in to the first disc, while driving to work, to tell her, "Honey! The hyper-intelligent dog just showed up!"
The whole pulling-the-eyes-out thing didn't happen until later.
Lead him on a long cross town chase before coming back to where you started. Jump over a fence, let it crash down on to him. Then when he's revealed to be alive, but hurt, rescue him by lifting the fence up. Befriend him.
Rather convoluted and tends only to work best with animals. Strong runner required
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Traditionally, Superman defeated the 5th Dimensional imp Mr. Mxyzptlk by making the villain say his name backwards.
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In PAD's Supergirl, there was an Incubus who was molesting girls in their dreams. So Linda set herself up as a victim, drew the Incubus into the bathroom and turned on the shower, and then remarked that in her dreams, all the water in the pipes is holy water. Incubus-guy burnt up on the spot.
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It's not novel anymore these days, but I think tossing an arch supervillain's jewelry into a volcano was a pretty strange way to defeat him.
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quote:Originally posted by Puffy Treat: Traditionally, Superman defeated the 5th Dimensional imp Mr. Mxyzptlk by making the villain say his name backwards.