quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: My roommate for being an negligent idiot for leaving the door unlocked is clearly at fault here yes?
One could gamble on whether or not you're going to get the price of a PS3 out of him.
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Well hes said hell pay, just need to wait until his tax returns or his burseries.
Question, if my moms insurance covers it does he still pay? I really don't like the idea of him getting off scott free for stupidity, there has to be some comeuppence.
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Is this the same roommate that you had trouble some months ago, Blayne? What with people entering your house and room without permission, and so forth?
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And what's ergo walking? Is the ergo walk anything like the moon walk?
It was an awkward use of ergo, cut some slack.
A more properly structured sentence would have been "Ergo someone walked into ..." but considering Blayne's loss of a valuable item, I'm willing to forgo pretty sentence structuring.
And on topic, here's my opinion. It's not your fault, it is your roommate's fault, it was likely an avoidable accident, he ought to make it up to you in some form or another, and it's not worth feeling a great deal of rage over, but perhaps worth a reasoned question on whether or not you feel safe with your roommate. If you have had problems with him locking the door before, you should really work to emphasize why it's so important that he lock the door.
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Blayne, why on Earth would you let your roommate take your PS3 into his room when you know he lets random people into his room?
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because he was a whiny narcissistic asshole who just wouldn't STOP whining when I took it into my room as punishment for when one of his friends irresponsibly put out a cigarette on it until he agreed to replace that one "sometime in the future".
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My son had his stolen one month after getting the crazy thing. I've told him it was entirely his fault, several times. He took it to school and left it in his gym locker. He knew not to do that. He was advised to not do that. I flat out told him he wasn't allowed. The school rules (like anyone obeys those with cell phones & I-pods) forbid it. He didn't listen, and he lost out. I hope that provided a good life lesson there.
This went down a couple of years ago and I still get pissed thinking about it.
That's one thing that concerns me with him rooming with someone he doesn't really know. He, like you apparently, is entirely to trusting.
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If you put in a claim on your mom's insurance, you'll need to file a police report and her payments likely will go up. Plus it's probably under the deductible, anyway. If he's at fault, it's much better for him to just buy you a new one and not to mention it to the insurance company. Good luck with that.
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quote:Originally posted by James Tiberius Kirk:
quote:Question, if my moms insurance covers it does he still pay?
Yes.
--j_k
So wait explain this, if insurance gives me the 600 or so $ I spent, my roommate will claim "well you got it back for free anyways" and will try not to pay. Even if I get insurance to replace it does he get off scott free and not have to compensate for anything or does he still have to pay?
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He has not learned his lesson, he does not learned to be responsible with other people's belongings, he just doesn't GET it?! Stupid irresponsible people should not be left off to technicalities, and if my moms insurance doesn't cover it I am damn well making sure he pays.
Next question, what is generally the penalty for breaking a lease? If its cheaper then 300$ * 5-6 months remaining I think I will do that, move back home, my 2000$ computer is MORE important then his convenience.
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If you let him put the PS3 in his room, knowing that he typically leaves the door unlocked and allows strangers to come in his room, I'd say you share part of the fault. Especially if you were at home when it happened.
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My son had his stolen one month after getting the crazy thing. I've told him it was entirely his fault, several times. He took it to school and left it in his gym locker. He knew not to do that. He was advised to not do that. I flat out told him he wasn't allowed. The school rules (like anyone obeys those with cell phones & I-pods) forbid it. He didn't listen, and he lost out. I hope that provided a good life lesson there.
This went down a couple of years ago and I still get pissed thinking about it.
That's one thing that concerns me with him rooming with someone he doesn't really know. He, like you apparently, is entirely to trusting.
I assume you mean your Son's PSP, because i can't see fitting my Ps3 into my gym locker.
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That said, if your mom's insurance will cover it -- which, frankly, I doubt, because most deductibles are around $500 in the first place -- I wouldn't sweat it. That's why insurance exists, and one claim shouldn't affect her rates.
(Note: if a claim DOES affect her rates, don't bother filing a claim. She'll wind up paying a lot more than $600 in the long run.)
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quote:If its cheaper then 300$ * 5-6 months remaining I think I will do that, move back home...
Aren't you still in school? And wasn't your father verbally and occasionally physically abusing you?
Dude, just get a new roommate, or keep your stuff in your own room and don't let it leave.
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What sort of school do you go to? That just seems insane to me to have so many problems with theft. I had 4 roommates in college. We locked when we were all out but if one of us was around and sleeping we didn't ever lock up. We had tons of people in and out. We lived in a suite and the bedrooms didn't even have locks on them. I never had problems with theft and I never heard of anyone else in the dorms have these issues. I would seriously talk to the head of your dorms if there are so many theft issues going around. It sounds like the whole culture needs a lot of work.
Rather than breaking your lease, why don't you leave your laptop with your parents and use on campus computers for the rest of the semester. Or you could buy a cheap laptop for use at school and keep your other one at home.
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My son had his stolen one month after getting the crazy thing. I've told him it was entirely his fault, several times. He took it to school and left it in his gym locker. He knew not to do that. He was advised to not do that. I flat out told him he wasn't allowed. The school rules (like anyone obeys those with cell phones & I-pods) forbid it. He didn't listen, and he lost out. I hope that provided a good life lesson there.
This went down a couple of years ago and I still get pissed thinking about it.
That's one thing that concerns me with him rooming with someone he doesn't really know. He, like you apparently, is entirely to trusting.
I assume you mean your Son's PSP, because i can't see fitting my Ps3 into my gym locker.
Yes, you assume correctly.
I'm going to go take a nap now.
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Theresa, Blayne doesn't live on campus. As well, I can confirm that his roommate is kind of a blank.
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I lived in an apartment complex that looks like a throwaway to the Warsaw commie blocks.
It seems my roommates cousin saw who did it, and saw him walking out of my building at the time, wearing all black, with a big bag, and lockpicking tools and is known as the local thief, and even called said cousin saying hes going to "make 150$ tonight".
The problem there is that this cousin will have nothing to do with the police. Things just get better and better in ghettoland.
" If you let him put the PS3 in his room, knowing that he typically leaves the door unlocked and allows strangers to come in his room, I'd say you share part of the fault. Especially if you were at home when it happened. "
No, he does not have a habit of leaving for work with the doors unlocked, he only left it unlocked because "I was there" but I have diagnosable hearing condition, crappier hearing, door was closed and had headphones on. It is not my responsibility to pay attention, it was totally my roommates to leave the door locked when he leaves.
Oh how I WISH I caught the bastard in the act, we'ld have one less poor kid professional thief in the world after a nice long 1 on 1 session between him, and my magic toolbox.
So far my parents believe the following:
That I must immediately get, in writing an IOU or promisary note where he states he will get me a new PS3, from BestBuy so my warranty will be moved over.
Holden has it in his mind, to wait until april to buy me a new one, but in the meantime thats 4 months of my making payments on something I do not have the luxury of playing. My parents are suggesting making him pay for that, my roommate laughably tried to put it on me saying that if I continued "being an ass about this" he would gladly go to court over this and "win", but my dad, my mom, who the latter was a lawyer and my dad whose been to dozens of small claims courts just shrugged at him explaining my roommate has no case.
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Well, I was teasing about the ergo walking. It just sounded amusing is all!
As for this:
Blayne. Let this be the lesson for you and all of us. When you know your roommate or whoever isn't trustworthy, don't let any amount of whining make you give in, and make clear that the untrustworthiness is the reason, albeit in a polite manner.
It's the persons' fault, of course, that it was lost, and they have that responsibility.
But you are not blameless, for there was every reason to suspect this could occur. However, you now have a $500 or more lesson in responsibility.
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"It is not my responsibility to pay attention, it was totally my roommates to leave the door locked when he leaves."
Perhaps not. But if the person who robbed you while you were literally in the next room had had a gun... well, that would have just been too bad, wouldn't it?
It reminds me of what a character on Family Guy said once.
"Sure I saw it. Sure, I only have one eye. And I got salt water in it. And I had an infection. And it was dark. And my glasses were at lenscrafters. But I saw that fish!"
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quote:Oh how I WISH I caught the bastard in the act, we'ld have one less poor kid professional thief in the world after a nice long 1 on 1 session between him, and my magic toolbox.
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Well the idiot had without consulted me, bid 300$ on the same model but probably used or refurbished PS3 on Ebay, stating its a binding contract and that I "have" to accept it.
Dear god that is his own damned fault, I cannot accept something I cannot ever be able to send back for repairs or get an extended warranty on or transfer my warranty over to.
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What you should do is set down the rules and just make him give you a promissory note that will make him reimburse you in cash for the cost of the PS3 + warranty as purchased.
He needs to be made to understand that he can't duck out of his responsibility by offering you a refurb from Ebay since it is not equivalent to what he's lost.
Then you need to recognize that as long as you still live with him, all of the future foibles you experience because of what your idiot roomate can wrest out of you (weh, how dare you keep your ps3 in your room, I think I'll bugger you till you fold) is pretty much going to be a self-imposed life condition.
PS: take money and don't buy another PS3, as their value is crashing and the platform is dying.
quote:my dad, my mom, who the latter was a lawyer and my dad whose been to dozens of small claims courts just shrugged at him explaining my roommate has no case
Blayne, in all seriousness, as far as I can tell, you don't have a case. You haven't filed a police report. You have no proof that your PS3 was in your roommate's possession when it went missing. And so forth.
If I were in your situation, I'd ask him for a couple hundred dollars and write the rest of it off as a life lesson.
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Umm, here's where your wrong:
1) I did indeed file a police report. Take That. 2) He admitted to the Police, to his mom, and to me via IM it was in his room at the time.
Get him to pay you cash.
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Right now he *bought* a PS3 via Ebay (somehow he couldnt figure out how to cancel a bid) and is saying "accept this or sue me"
Poor bugger, and all he had to do was get a BestBuy card and buy one for me. Itld be the same thing.
The problem is, he doesn't have the money and in the meantime I am still making payments to BestBuy on something that now I don't have, otherwise he doesn't get his tax returns until April.
So my solution (technically my moms) is to have him get a BB card, buy a PS3, (is he or is he not liable for the amount *I* paid or does he only have to get the next closest version? The Backwards compatible PS3's aren't made anymore) and thats done.
Instead he went and did something stupid and is being stubborn to reinforce his stupid decision.
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What else did you lose? As in games, controllers...
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technically i think ive been robbed of the following:
A cell phone, an ipod shuffle, 2 controllers, PS3 (TWICE, got it back the first time but it was stolen because my roommate was drunk let some people in through the pateo door who went around unlocked the front door let more people in for then proceeded to steal my PS3), FF12, and my RCA cables for the PS3 and the controller wire.
SO ya, definitely pissed. Moving out now before my computer is next.
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Did you ever put a lock on your individual door?
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To Tom: Im moving back to my parents yes but i intend to ask either my sister or brother (both live in same campus as John Abott in Houses/flats).
The home environment right now is supportive albeit slightly annoying, but I at least by summerish plan to move downtown to University of Concordia campus at atleast within 20 minutes shuttlebus.
School is currently going along well im in my internship as IT, got 16/16 on my first calculus quiz, and am proceeding well in my windows networking class.
To Scholarette: No, but it wouldnt have helped as my PS3 was in my roommate apartment on loan and under his care and he categorically refuses to have a lock on his door. I was in the process of getting one when this happened.
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his argument:
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my mom has now advised me to tell you to not pay more than half since legally you are half responsible (she watches small claims court on tv all day) and frankly, i can spin the arguments back around on you, you didnt verify the door was locked, you were home, etc
its ridiculous for you to place the blame solely on me, and if you try to take me to court, i will end up paying half as will you
regardless of your hearing etc., you were home, and awake when i left, as you informed the cops on our police report
at that point, from a legal standpoint, we equally share responsibility
I should note that he went from "I will win hands down" to "I will end up only paying half"
Seriously, "my mom watches alot of small claims court tv"!!! Is he serious? I can't believe I will actually have to go to court just to prove I'm right, I actually contacted the McGill Univeristy Legal Clinic, they have a TV. *sarcastic clapping*
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It's not really clear to me why he'd be legally responsible if you allowed him to take the item into his room and then someone else came into the apartment and stole it.
If I were you I'd take what he's offering. A replacement PS seems reasonable, if it's working.
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and they don't take serial numbers for those extended warrantees, so it should be covered if it breaks as long as it is the same model. Posts: 15082 | Registered: Jul 2001
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