quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Karl, I much prefer facebook for social networking. It's a much cleaner interface.
However, most of my friends are still in or around college age. None of the ones who are older are on it. So I'm not sure how good it would be for you.
Well, all the more reason to spread the word and get your Myspace friends on Facebook.
And I just discovered there is already a Hatrack group on Facebook. Are you in it?
No offense intended whatsoever, but if you aren't in college, I will most definetly not allow myself to be visible to you on facebook. I have my profile set that way because I am very much against facebook being eroded into a myspace copy- facebook is for people I can see in real life, with their real names, and no agenda (mostly). For me it's about other students, and I very much resent the public being allowed in- although I am happy that students can restrict their profiles from being visible to the public. Again, no offense, but email is for everyone, facebook should be for us.
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quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Karl, I much prefer facebook for social networking. It's a much cleaner interface.
However, most of my friends are still in or around college age. None of the ones who are older are on it. So I'm not sure how good it would be for you.
Well, all the more reason to spread the word and get your Myspace friends on Facebook.
And I just discovered there is already a Hatrack group on Facebook. Are you in it?
No offense intended whatsoever, but if you aren't in college, I will most definetly not allow myself to be visible to you on facebook. I have my profile set that way because I am very much against facebook being eroded into a myspace copy- facebook is for people I can see in real life, with their real names, and no agenda (mostly). For me it's about other students, and I very much resent the public being allowed in- although I am happy that students can restrict their profiles from being visible to the public. Again, no offense, but email is for everyone, facebook should be for us.
I love hearing this argument perpetuated. It reminds me of when Facebook was only the Ivys and a select few others of similar reputation, or when it was just one school.
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bluesunno: your settings require people to know your last name or email addy to be added to friends. (dawnmaria also, but I figured it out.)
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quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: I love hearing this argument perpetuated. It reminds me of when Facebook was only the Ivys and a select few others of similar reputation, or when it was just one school.
"No offense, but facebook should be for us."
Oh, I didn't realize that because my feelings were common ones, that they were therefore insignificant. Hmmm, I guess I was wrong about facebook after all.
Edit: Oh, and though I don't go to an Ivy, I support the ability of Ivy leagers to keep their facebooks private. That's all I'm doing- keeping my own profile private, and encouraging others to do the same. Laugh all you want, I have no need of a myspace life.
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Right now. but facebook is about money now too, and that will change things.
It started when they posted a box encouraging people to enter email adresses of non-college friends inviting them to join. Of course some of those people will join, and notice that so and so whom they know does not appear on the network, despite the fact that they KNOW that person is on the network. This is why facebook so carefully stipulated that you may restrict your network to JUST universities, or else open it to everyone, but nowhere in between. It will simply be a matter of time before so many people have FB accounts that they will expect your network to be non-exclusive, or else accuse you of avoiding them, or snubbing them, or whatever. People will begin to find out who is setting their accounts to private, because there are SO many features which reveal who is talking to whom: walls, notes, pics, none of which can be completely hidden from public people who are friends of your friends. The point is to force everyone to eventually open all their profiles, and then you can forget about having FB as a service for networking with local people, specifically other students, who aren't trying to sell you something or have sex with you (not that it doesn't already get used that way, but I certainly find it useful for networking with people I actually know). FB will be a resume for every job you apply to, whether you like it or not, because anyone will be able to see it, or you will just have to get rid of it, as an excuse for avoiding random people whom you don't wish to see or share private details with.
I liked facebook for what it did when it was in its first year. It made sense. But just because it's on the internet, does NOT mean you need to keep adding features until you have so much that the focus of the site is meaningless. They went over the line with the newsfeed feature, and that tells me they really don't know how to listen to what people need from the site- it is just going to become a venue for as much as they can get you to swallow in advertising, by getting you hooked in with useless added features. Gah, I realize it's inevitable for any popular site, but I have a right to not like it. Just wait, you'll see I was right.
edit: And imo, as a pre-rebutall to the inevitable argument: just because its on the internet, doesn't mean it CAN'T be private to a degree. That is about the stupidest justification for accepting all the changes with FB, that you can't expect websites to have any kind of privacy. Well I think you should, in a better world, be able to trust a website to give you the amount of privacy you're comfortable with. We expect our emails to be private, and we don't accept in-person forms of stalking as socially acceptable, so I think we shouldn't excuse the abuse of these sites, by simply saying that the abuse is inevitable, and inherent in the medium. It isn't, it shouldn't be, and it doesn't have to be endemic in the system. If we are going to use the internet to full effect, as part of our social lives for the rest of our lives, then I think we ought to get used to the idea that internet interactions are similar to real life interactions- you don't go on college campuses and try to meet people unless you have some business there, or belong there. You don't EXPECT people to want you to do this. I fear that these basic privacies, the privacy in which we all live day to day, that the person sitting next to you on the bus will not start asking for personal information (hopefully), needs to be respected by everyone on the net, as in physical interaction. I realize that peopel are rude on myspace in all the ways they are rude in real life, but I notice that more people are willing to accept ridiculous behavior in a digital format.
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I don't know if zuckerman was ever indie, but he certainly has changed his priorities in light of the promise of ALOT of cash changing hands. This is obvious isn't it? Just saying.
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i rarely use myspace though... Facebook is much much safer, and besides, all of my friends (ie jew york) have left myspace for facebook.
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: I don't know if zuckerman was ever indie, but he certainly has changed his priorities in light of the promise of ALOT of cash changing hands. This is obvious isn't it? Just saying.
Why does it matter? It hasn't changed the tone of Facebook. Facebook is STILL not a place to talk to random strangers. It's STILL a place to get in touch with friends you already know.
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: No offense intended whatsoever, but if you aren't in college, I will most definetly not allow myself to be visible to you on facebook. I have my profile set that way because I am very much against facebook being eroded into a myspace copy- facebook is for people I can see in real life, with their real names, and no agenda (mostly).[/QB]
Offense taken. I made a decision based on my ideals that separates me from my peer group in a bunch of ways. Facebook was one that grated on me for a while, and was pretty happy when they tore down the iron curtain. I've had a couple of good friends from high school look me up since I signed on and am glad we've had a chance to reconnect.
So you can whine about the good ol' days and the horrors the future will bring all you want. I'm content to ratchet up my privacy setttings and try to keep up with friends I thought I'd lost.
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Quit it... It did not... You're just an addict now... : )
Oh, your so wrong, it did it really did, addiction to myspce is a serious thing, I canceled my account to get my normal life back!
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Theres a cop at my school that actually monitors what you put on your myspace. Pretty much the only reason I don't got one.
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quote:Originally posted by SoaPiNuReYe: Theres a cop at my school that actually monitors what you put on your myspace. Pretty much the only reason I don't got one.
Doesn't surprise me, I work with an IT guy that does the same thing.
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Yeah and if you got stuff on there he don't like you could be in trouble. A couple kids got suspended and junk. It was a pretty big fiasco.
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I think he has his own account and he knows a student who has a lot of friends on myspace. Then he sorta just goes through the web of friends and browses through their content looking for bad stuff...
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: No offense intended whatsoever, but if you aren't in college, I will most definetly not allow myself to be visible to you on facebook. I have my profile set that way because I am very much against facebook being eroded into a myspace copy- facebook is for people I can see in real life, with their real names, and no agenda (mostly).
I pretty much only log in if somebody sends me a message. Although lately that's actually been pretty often.
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Getting the word about my News-Journal blog and other writings out there. At least, that's the theory. Mostly so far I just hunt for celebrities. Gad, my shallowness has been revealed! Agh!
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I find that there are is a section of people who were turned on to Friendster before myspace and facebook hit. It's a noticably different crowd, and I appreciate that. I have a myspace account to keep up with my family, and that is it, I don't accept friend requests from anyone who isn't blood relation, but for some reason, my friends are more likely to be on friendster, and since I only want to keep up with one site at a time, I've chosen friendster.
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I'm suprised I didn't post mine sooner. I've had one for a while now. We must have another topic on this, because I have a couple people from Hatrack on my friend's list. Most of my "friends" are bands. I like to make it easy to check up on tour dates and all. That, and I use the message boards on it as well. Unfortunately, one of the groups is bringing me onto a lot of responsibilty. Where as I have to contact a certain senior official on my base. I hate my job sometimes. But the kid didn't listen to our warnings, so I am going to do what I told him.
I know all but the last one on my top 24. Most of them I served with. The last "friend" is the main sponsor for my NASCAR driver, Jeremy Mayfield, this coming season. I keep it there, because the CEO of that company said that it actually did belong to them.
Edit to say I changed my top friends a bit. Now I do know everyone on it.
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When I first got myspace I loved finding people I hadn't talked to in years.
This is the exact reason why I haven't joined a social networking site like Facebook or Myspace. There's people from my past that I do not wish to speak to, and I fear if I join one of these sites, they'll find me. Perhaps a silly fear, but there it is.
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I think it's an entirely sensible concern, as that is exactly the sort of thing that happens. That's what these sites are for. On the plus side, you can usually lock it so that only approved people can see it. But still, the only wayt to be sure is to avoid them.
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By the way, if you send me a friend request I'd appreciate it if you'd send me a brief "Hey, Noemon, this is X from Hatrack. Just sent you a friend request" type message as well, so that I know who it is that's wanting to add me/be added by me.
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: I don't know if zuckerman was ever indie, but he certainly has changed his priorities in light of the promise of ALOT of cash changing hands. This is obvious isn't it? Just saying.
Why does it matter? It hasn't changed the tone of Facebook. Facebook is STILL not a place to talk to random strangers. It's STILL a place to get in touch with friends you already know.
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MySpace is that way for me. It all depends on how you manage your friendslist. My profile on MySpace is private and I only add people that I know.
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I just got a bulletin informing me that there were profiles on my friends list that I did not approve. Also, they are only visible if you click on "Edit Friends", not if you click on "View all of my friends". The profiles don't have a picture, just the gray box w/ red X, and are named "This Profile Has Been Deleted".
I know that they can't actually be deleted profiles, because I have a pretty small friends list and would notice if anyone deleted their profile, and also, if someone deletes their profile, it shouldn't appear on anyone's friends list, even as a deleted profile.
In the bulletin I got, it said that these profiles were hackers. I don't know if that's true or not, but it makes sense, and I don't want them getting access to my profile or selling my info to marketing companies.
So, check it out, see if you have any. I heard that some people have had hundreds. I only had two and my coworker had 34.
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i mainly use facebook and myspace to procrastinate from studying. it can be a very easy way to kill time. its good for keeping in touch as well, or getting online jokes between friends. im not a big fan of the random person posting "hey saw u on myspace, u r hawt, lets be friends." these ppl get instantly denied. really just use it for my friends and thats it.
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Had one deleted account. Not quite sure what the motivation is for anyone to hack an account, but i killed it out anyway.
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