However, I'm starting to hate myspace. It does strange things to my computer. Most people's pages are insufferably ugly because of all the hack mods, and most of my "friend" requests are spam.
I'm wondering if Facebook, now that it has expanded to the public, will be better for what I'm looking for in a friends networking site.
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Karl, you mean you don't enjoy getting invited to the 'see what I do on my webcam' group all the time?
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Karl, I much prefer facebook for social networking. It's a much cleaner interface.
However, most of my friends are still in or around college age. None of the ones who are older are on it. So I'm not sure how good it would be for you.
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I get very disappointed when I have new friend invites and it turns out to be either a very scantily clad female or a random older man asking me to be his "friend... or more!" However myspace has allowed me to reconnect with a number of friends I haven't talked to in years, so it's a small price to pay.
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quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Karl, I much prefer facebook for social networking. It's a much cleaner interface.
However, most of my friends are still in or around college age. None of the ones who are older are on it. So I'm not sure how good it would be for you.
Well, all the more reason to spread the word and get your Myspace friends on Facebook.
And I just discovered there is already a Hatrack group on Facebook. Are you in it?
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I find myspace great for finding old friends I've lost contact with, and for keeping updated on parties my friends are having, but the pop-ups and dirtyness do grate on the nerves.
When I first got myspace I loved finding people I hadn't talked to in years. Oddly enough, I still don't talk to them. However I've discovered a lot of cool music that would otherwise have remained unknown.
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Heh. I'm pretty much the same as Luet as far as FINDING but not actually messaging old friends. We're probably all sitting there waiting for the other to send the first message.
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Myspace is kind of icky... I'm 16, and try to avoid posting my picture, because being the monstrousely handsome guy that I am, I will definently be a pervert magnet. LOL
Xanga is safer and better... But I still log on myspace.
Xanga is a lot more intimate, in the way that it's a weblog community, so even if you don't 'messege' each other, you know what's going on... And I have really slow dial-up, so these 'pizimped' myspace profiles get on my last nerve! I just talk to people I've met, and have yet to meet some stalker or anything. But just the same, I'm always on guard on myspace.
I don't know my URL offhand... I'll have to find it. It's just a series of numbers.
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I get very disappointed when I have new friend invites and it turns out to be either a very scantily clad female or a random older man asking me to be his "friend... or more!" However myspace has allowed me to reconnect with a number of friends I haven't talked to in years, so it's a small price to pay.
Your profile is cool because you have Kid Gloves on it.
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I've got a MySpace , but I don't use it. I just went on and looked at groups - thinking I would join a couple. In the Hobbies & Crafts groups it seems like the majority is for stoners. Oh, and groups having to do with sex. I'm not quite sure where the "hobbies & crafts" part of those categories are. (OK, I can see that maybe having sex is a hobby for some, and maybe rolling your own could be considered crafty ... )
This week I've gotten three invites to join groups. Two were sex-related.
And, maybe I'm just too old to "get it" in this context. Whatever. I'm not sure I'll be checking it too often, but FWIW I'll add people from Hatrack to my friends list.
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quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Karl, I much prefer facebook for social networking. It's a much cleaner interface.
However, most of my friends are still in or around college age. None of the ones who are older are on it. So I'm not sure how good it would be for you.
Well, all the more reason to spread the word and get your Myspace friends on Facebook.
And I just discovered there is already a Hatrack group on Facebook. Are you in it?
No offense intended whatsoever, but if you aren't in college, I will most definetly not allow myself to be visible to you on facebook. I have my profile set that way because I am very much against facebook being eroded into a myspace copy- facebook is for people I can see in real life, with their real names, and no agenda (mostly). For me it's about other students, and I very much resent the public being allowed in- although I am happy that students can restrict their profiles from being visible to the public. Again, no offense, but email is for everyone, facebook should be for us.
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quote:Originally posted by El JT de Spang: Karl, I much prefer facebook for social networking. It's a much cleaner interface.
However, most of my friends are still in or around college age. None of the ones who are older are on it. So I'm not sure how good it would be for you.
Well, all the more reason to spread the word and get your Myspace friends on Facebook.
And I just discovered there is already a Hatrack group on Facebook. Are you in it?
No offense intended whatsoever, but if you aren't in college, I will most definetly not allow myself to be visible to you on facebook. I have my profile set that way because I am very much against facebook being eroded into a myspace copy- facebook is for people I can see in real life, with their real names, and no agenda (mostly). For me it's about other students, and I very much resent the public being allowed in- although I am happy that students can restrict their profiles from being visible to the public. Again, no offense, but email is for everyone, facebook should be for us.
I love hearing this argument perpetuated. It reminds me of when Facebook was only the Ivys and a select few others of similar reputation, or when it was just one school.
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bluesunno: your settings require people to know your last name or email addy to be added to friends. (dawnmaria also, but I figured it out.)
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quote:Originally posted by erosomniac: I love hearing this argument perpetuated. It reminds me of when Facebook was only the Ivys and a select few others of similar reputation, or when it was just one school.
"No offense, but facebook should be for us."
Oh, I didn't realize that because my feelings were common ones, that they were therefore insignificant. Hmmm, I guess I was wrong about facebook after all.
Edit: Oh, and though I don't go to an Ivy, I support the ability of Ivy leagers to keep their facebooks private. That's all I'm doing- keeping my own profile private, and encouraging others to do the same. Laugh all you want, I have no need of a myspace life.
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Right now. but facebook is about money now too, and that will change things.
It started when they posted a box encouraging people to enter email adresses of non-college friends inviting them to join. Of course some of those people will join, and notice that so and so whom they know does not appear on the network, despite the fact that they KNOW that person is on the network. This is why facebook so carefully stipulated that you may restrict your network to JUST universities, or else open it to everyone, but nowhere in between. It will simply be a matter of time before so many people have FB accounts that they will expect your network to be non-exclusive, or else accuse you of avoiding them, or snubbing them, or whatever. People will begin to find out who is setting their accounts to private, because there are SO many features which reveal who is talking to whom: walls, notes, pics, none of which can be completely hidden from public people who are friends of your friends. The point is to force everyone to eventually open all their profiles, and then you can forget about having FB as a service for networking with local people, specifically other students, who aren't trying to sell you something or have sex with you (not that it doesn't already get used that way, but I certainly find it useful for networking with people I actually know). FB will be a resume for every job you apply to, whether you like it or not, because anyone will be able to see it, or you will just have to get rid of it, as an excuse for avoiding random people whom you don't wish to see or share private details with.
I liked facebook for what it did when it was in its first year. It made sense. But just because it's on the internet, does NOT mean you need to keep adding features until you have so much that the focus of the site is meaningless. They went over the line with the newsfeed feature, and that tells me they really don't know how to listen to what people need from the site- it is just going to become a venue for as much as they can get you to swallow in advertising, by getting you hooked in with useless added features. Gah, I realize it's inevitable for any popular site, but I have a right to not like it. Just wait, you'll see I was right.
edit: And imo, as a pre-rebutall to the inevitable argument: just because its on the internet, doesn't mean it CAN'T be private to a degree. That is about the stupidest justification for accepting all the changes with FB, that you can't expect websites to have any kind of privacy. Well I think you should, in a better world, be able to trust a website to give you the amount of privacy you're comfortable with. We expect our emails to be private, and we don't accept in-person forms of stalking as socially acceptable, so I think we shouldn't excuse the abuse of these sites, by simply saying that the abuse is inevitable, and inherent in the medium. It isn't, it shouldn't be, and it doesn't have to be endemic in the system. If we are going to use the internet to full effect, as part of our social lives for the rest of our lives, then I think we ought to get used to the idea that internet interactions are similar to real life interactions- you don't go on college campuses and try to meet people unless you have some business there, or belong there. You don't EXPECT people to want you to do this. I fear that these basic privacies, the privacy in which we all live day to day, that the person sitting next to you on the bus will not start asking for personal information (hopefully), needs to be respected by everyone on the net, as in physical interaction. I realize that peopel are rude on myspace in all the ways they are rude in real life, but I notice that more people are willing to accept ridiculous behavior in a digital format.
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I don't know if zuckerman was ever indie, but he certainly has changed his priorities in light of the promise of ALOT of cash changing hands. This is obvious isn't it? Just saying.
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i rarely use myspace though... Facebook is much much safer, and besides, all of my friends (ie jew york) have left myspace for facebook.
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: I don't know if zuckerman was ever indie, but he certainly has changed his priorities in light of the promise of ALOT of cash changing hands. This is obvious isn't it? Just saying.
Why does it matter? It hasn't changed the tone of Facebook. Facebook is STILL not a place to talk to random strangers. It's STILL a place to get in touch with friends you already know.
quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: No offense intended whatsoever, but if you aren't in college, I will most definetly not allow myself to be visible to you on facebook. I have my profile set that way because I am very much against facebook being eroded into a myspace copy- facebook is for people I can see in real life, with their real names, and no agenda (mostly).[/QB]
Offense taken. I made a decision based on my ideals that separates me from my peer group in a bunch of ways. Facebook was one that grated on me for a while, and was pretty happy when they tore down the iron curtain. I've had a couple of good friends from high school look me up since I signed on and am glad we've had a chance to reconnect.
So you can whine about the good ol' days and the horrors the future will bring all you want. I'm content to ratchet up my privacy setttings and try to keep up with friends I thought I'd lost.
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Quit it... It did not... You're just an addict now... : )
Oh, your so wrong, it did it really did, addiction to myspce is a serious thing, I canceled my account to get my normal life back!
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