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I knew OSC was gonna be in Madison on the 9th. I knew it was the 9th. I forgot to go. Why? Brilliant question. Apparently I hadn't quite fused the real world with the "OSC Book Signing" one in my head, or something. I am a tool, and I deserve to die alone.
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"Mr. Card, you write about characters who have the gift of prophecy with such a clear and accurate description. You obviously know what it's like. Do you have the gift of prophecy yourself, or do you merely know someone who does?"
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He believes the gift of prophecy exists, but doesn't think he has it himself, and moreover admits to immediately ignoring whatever else someone says after they claim to have the gift of prophecy.
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Maybe it is just me, but it seems a tiny bit hypocritical of OSC to claim to believe that prophecy exists but he doesn't believe anyone who says they are a prophet. To me that says he doesn't actually believe in prophets after all.
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No. It means he doesn't think someone with the gift of prophecy would proclaim themselves in this way.
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So Madison was great, but who's up to Carmel IN? I think it's only about 1 1/2 hours farther from my house than Madison was. Sophie and Juliana are adorable. I was somewhere behind you in line.
I'll probably have my little 22 mo old bundle of terror/energy w/me there (until I beg my oldest and my almost daughter to take him to the children's section).
Mr. Card - My daughter thought you had a great sense of humor. Now I have to take my son to see you and my almost daughter.
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Or OSC could believe that the gift of prophecy exists, but is not intended to be shared with others. Or if it is to be shared, it would come with more credentials than "I have the gift of prophecy."
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quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: By "almost daughter," do you mean "daughter of a fiance?"
By almost daughter I mean my daughter's best friend. She calls me Mom and moved into my house "temporarily" tonight. She has a mom, but her biological mom is going through a rough time right now. She's a great kid and I just want her to have someplace where she feels secure and loved. (but man, two hormonal preteen girls in the same house! I must be insane)
No fiance. I am lucky to have been married to my best friend for several years. The man who has never complained about me buying clothes for a child not our own and who didn't say a word when I called and told him she was staying w/us for a while.
The joke in his family is that I seem to collect other people's kids. It's not intentional. I just can't say "no" if I see a child that needs something.
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Okay, Since a friend of mine is guilty, I'll list this one.
Never put Mr. Card on the spot by handing him a Cell PHONE and say, "Here, could you talk to my friend in Colorado who couldn't be at any signings!!!" (I was the friend! It was a surprise to me also when he did this.) Mr. Card was the ever so gracious man and we survived the awkwardness. Though, it was joyful and amusing to me, I would still say, Don't do it!
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I remember a "Spokane is Reading" Ender's Game discussion last year where somebody asked Mr. Card to say hello to his son, even though said son was not present and I'm pretty sure was nowhere within hearing range (I believe he was across the state in Seattle).
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WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THE SIGNING!!!! You guys know me. I would have come, hell or high water, if I had even been aware it was happening! Stupid work that has had me in a cave.
*throws tantrum*
However as far as things that have or have not been said to OSC about his books. My own contribution:
"Yeah it got a little wet, I read your books in the bathtub."
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this is something i did while at endercon. I put my character names From VBS on my name tag. when he asked what the names where for. when i told him that the names where from VBS. I wasn't sure if he was weirded out by it. or that i was just another nutty fan.
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Dude...as Orson Scott Card is my hero, last night was definately one of the highlights of my life. I got to meet my hero and ask him questions. How cool is that? How many seventeen-year-olds get to do that? I feel so lucky.
Thank you Mr. Card for coming to Pasadena and signing my books. Thank you for giving me some advice and thank you for at least acting like you cared.
P.S. Do you remember me? Just kidding...
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"Dude, you don't remember me? I was the guy with the purple pants! Remember that purple pants guy? That was so totally me, dude!" hehehehe
Ah, memories. I remember, at one science fiction convention, Harlan Ellison, at a speech he was giving, singled me out of the crowd to serenade me with a song about Branch Davidians, sung to to the tune of "The Lumberjack Song".
I think it was because I was conpicuously eyeing the exit and looked like a refugee from The Gap(tm).
At least that wasn't as bad as that time I took a swing at Carl Macek.
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Moonshine, which person were you? Several of us were there last night (myself, rivka, docmagik, jd2cly60 <don't ask>) and I know I would have loved to meet another Jatraquera. I was one of the guys with very loud but well-meaning children.
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I wasn't there for several parts, including anyone being asked to stand up -- I kept attending to children. Is it possible I sat directly behind you? Were you in (I think) the second row, pretty much center?
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Stupid jerks with your inhabited regions, think you're so great because people live near where you are, and you have things like get-togethers and fancy-shmancy book-signings. Try living out on the frontier for awhile, where you only know the outside world by reputation. That'd show you.
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Yes, Pop. She was directly in front of us. Hey, Moonshine! I was the one with the snood who kept heckling OSC.
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"You see this birthmark? It looks just like your left ear if you squint really good. You know what that means? I'm your long lost brother!"
Edit: I just wanted to point out that I chose a completely random OSC body part. In no way am I insulting OSC's left ear.
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Yeah that was me in my "retro" NSYNC shirt...(sarcasm)laundry day and I was still cool enough to find it. Oh well.
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About the "prophecy" thing - my disdain is for people who claim they have the gift of prophecy in order to get you to do what they want - like pay them money <grin> or obey them. That is very different from having a position of authority within an ecclesiastical organization, where by virtue of your position you are believed to be empowered to speak the will of God (cf. the Pope, the Mormon Church president, etc.)
In the context of the question as I understood it, she was asking whether I accept the idea that people have a gift of prophecy that they can exercise at will to tell other people of their future. And I don't believe such a gift, as thus explained, exists. It is the stuff of sci-fi or fantasy.
Instead, I believe in the ability to know things that could not have been known through rational means, but the knowledge comes from God for God's purpose; it cannot be exercised by people on demand, and the gift doesn't belong to THEM but to God, and is bestowed only when and where he needs to have that knowledge made available. That's a very different proposition, and it's very rare, and I believe it's far too sacred a thing for me to use it in my fiction, so I don't. I use the other, nonexistent kind <grin>.
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i was at the pasedina signing as well. lol. I was wondering where my fellow hatrackers were, even though im relatively new here. I'm only 15, and i was there with my sister. I was wearing all black. It was awesome meeting OSC. He's such a cool guy
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SPOILER: MAGIC STREET ****Danger Will Rogers!!!!*****
In Magic Street Word gives 'words of knowledge,' and Healing under the guise of prophetic voice/power. Later finds out that it's the power of the Oberon-thus not from the Holy Spirit.
In the end however, Puck goes back to fix all the wrongs that were done. Does that mean that they will be restored to original state or that Tamika, and the like will be 'healed?' or granted their true wish? (I don't know if I missed this clarification.)
If they are granted their wish, doesn't that put Word back on the 'healer, evangelical, penticostal' pedistal? All that he prophesized did come to pass if so. (Their wishes/prayers come true, as prophesized by Word.)
Just a thoughtful reflection and question after reading the book.
I hope I conveyed that well enough.
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Verily- I lived in Anchorage for two and a hald years, on Elmendorf AFB. I feel your pain. However, it's so much more beautiful up there than it is anywhere else in the country, and I'd give anything to go back, even just for vacation. However, money prevents all vacations at the moment...hmm, maybe after college.... in like five years...
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No.. lol we were like five minutes late. I was sitting on the floor in the bottom left corner. It was still amazing though
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*takes notes from thread* I'll be going to a signing in two weeks, yipee! I already bought my hardcover copy of the book (and I *never* buy hardcover).
In light of a recent thread, here's another one: Don't ask Mr. Card for a hug. And don't put your arm around his shoulder.
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From pictures ive seen OSC likes to squich his fans heads. i think theres thre or four floating around.
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