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Zarex
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I'm a student at Southern Virginia University, I'll be taking two classes from Scott Card this semester. I was wondering if any of you boot camp or writing class veterans could tell me what to expect.

Talk about lucky, neh?

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quote:
Talk about lucky, neh?
OK, I'll talk about lucky.

Wait. No I won't.

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Congratulations!! We want all your class notes [Wink]
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Sure, but I'll warn you, I've never been a very good note taker.
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I'm pretty sure Scott is coming at his SVU class quite differently than he did Bootcamp. First of all, he has a bit more time. Thus, there will be a large amount of reading (short fiction, I'd presume). I also suspect he won't really follow his lecture notes (if he has them) very closely, but will allow conversation and discussion to wander organically. So basically, expect to participate, to be interested, to learn something, and to be more involved and engaged as a thinking being.

In short: don't cheat off the guy sitting next to you.

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Zarex
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Thanks for the advice, and I don't plan to. As soon as I found out he would be teaching at my school I asked what the prerequisits for his classes would be. I got those out of the way my very first semester, and registered for his classes the day that registration went online. I didn't take any chances on this opportunity.

I had occasion once to meet OSC when he attended a play at SVU that I was performing in. I told him that Ender's Shadow was my favorite book of his. Then he thanked me for not saying that my favorite was the first one that he wrote twenty years ago.

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What courses are he teaching?
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quote:
Originally posted by kojabu:
What courses are he teaching?

[ROFL]
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Are you laughing at the incredibly bad grammar of that sentence? Because you should have seen it before I fixed it. My brain was really really not working when I wrote it.
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Zarex
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Topics: Writing Popular Fiction

Topics: Science Fiction

I'm in both of them, next semester he'll be teaching the fiction of C.S. Lewis and Tolkien, I'll probably miss that because I'll be on my mission.

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Man that sounds really cool, we don't offer anything like that at my university. When do you start/when will you know what kind of books you'll have to read for the sci-fi one?
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Classes start on the twentyfifth. I'll be taking the Writing popular fiction class every Tuesday and Thursday from 12:15- 2:15. The "Topics- Science Fiction" will be Tuesday and Thursday from 2:30- 3:45, and on Wednesday from 6:30 pm-7:30 pm.

He hasn't posted any sort of reading list yet.

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He gave a copy of "I Am the Cheese" to my dad, which I've already read, he also gave my dad a copy of "Orson Scott Card, Writer of the Terrible Choice"

One nice thing is that my dad is the English Program coordinator, so he talks with OSC, or "Scott Card" alot. What's really cool though is that in one of OSC's articles he calls my dad a "great teacher." I'm also taking a class from Robert Stoddard, who has worked with OSC before. That class is Acting IV.

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quote:
...next semester he'll be teaching the fiction of C.S. Lewis and Tolkien...
OSC teaching the fiction of C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien: my version of Heaven.
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Come enroll in the class then.
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I am so jealous it isn't even funny.
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What quid said.

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Zarex
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I know I'm so lucky, this is a once in a life-time opportunity. One of the other things that makes me so lucky, is that my dad works there, so tuition is free. plus I'm living at home so I don't have to pay for housing. If that's not luck nothing is.

Now before you get too jealous remember that my dad is a teacher, and that the only reason his children get to go to school for free is because they probably realise that the salary they are paying him wouldn't be nearly enough to send all of his kids to school.

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Professors' salaries are generall higher than teachers' salaries. [Smile]
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Zarex, you can quit that whining right now, cuz it's not making me want to deck you any less for all those mean things you've said. [Mad]

I live half-way around the world, and I'll NEVER be able to go to boot camp or take his class or anything. And you're just spouting off about all that mean stuff. It's just. Not. Nice.

At. All.

Harumph!

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Zarex
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Not at this school, the school is just starting its tenth year and has about 700 students
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Zarex
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And who's whining? I said I was lucky didn't I?
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Zarex, its called sarcasm. Its a way of saying your bothered by something without really saying it.
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Zarex
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Its kinda hard to get tell when someone's being sarcastic just by looking at their posts.
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Just how LDS is SVU, Zarex?

I may be joining you (if I can get them to finish processing my application!).

I've been there once, for a summer short course (OSC's writing class).

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Zarex
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SVU is 90 percent LDS, what class will you be taking?
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Make that 95, are you LDS?
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Though the student body is 90-95% LDS, the school is not officially affiliated with the church. Though the lack of church subsidy means the tuition is on par with the average private school (meaning out the wazoo,) IMO the non-official connections make SVU much more desirable that any of the BYUs.
For one, the school can hire anyone they want to. SVU has many professors from various religious backgrounds. By contrast, BYU has very few, if any, non-LDS professors. Also (and I'm treading very carefully here so as not to piss off any BYU grads or Utah residents) BYU has become a much more conservative school in the past few years. Because the school is in the middle of Mormon Country (IIRC the Provo Area is 90% LDS) there is more of a tendency to be close-minded and less open to non-Mormon cultural influences. Notice this is a blanket statement that does not apply to all. To contrast, the church population in Beuna Vista consisted of a small branch before SVU came along, thus making college more of a multi-cultural experience.

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Brian J. Hill
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BTW Zarek, are you involved in the theatre program at SVU? I saw Fiddler on the Roof in May, and it was wonderful. I also intend on seeing The Importance of Being Earnest if I get the chance.
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Zarex
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Do you go to that school? You seem to know an awful lot about it. And you are right about the teachers from various backgrounds. My English Comp. Teacher was a quaker!
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I go to Radford University, which is about 80 miles down I-81. A lot of my friends either attend or have attended SVU.

[ August 21, 2005, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: Brian J. Hill ]

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Zarex
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Oh, I have a friend going to Radford this year. Her name is Dini Chang.
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Don't know her, but Radford is a pretty small school--not as small as SVU!--so I may run into her.
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I was sorta kidding. But I'm still unreasonably jealous.
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Zarex
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No offense taken.
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quote:
Topics: Writing Popular Fiction

Topics: Science Fiction

Color me green! What I wouldn't give to be in your shoes. (For many reasons... *sigh*)
Here's wishing you a wonderful year!

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Zarex
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Thank you. I can't wait to actually get into class with him. I'll probably be posting descriptions of my classes (Including his) on my livejournal during the year.
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Zarex: I'm not LDS (Catholic). I've been to SVU once for a summer workshop.

...and I just paid out the cash. Argh!! $1535!!

...the plan is to be in the writing class. I should be signed up within the hour!

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SVU recruited me a bit my senior year. My mom said that they called her up and said that I was eligible for a scholarship that would make the price comparable to BYU. Since I was a good (but not overly fabulous) student with lots of extracurriculars, I wondered how many others would be eligible for such a scholarship.

As it was, It was a school I'd never heard of and I don't think they were acredited yet (curiously, how is that process going?), and I was accepted to BYU, so I went West instead of East.

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I am absolutely dying of jealousy. I can't believe I don't get to take that class. I must find a way.
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SVU is now fully accredited. Will-- are you actually at SVU now? If so, are you a freshmen? I'm a freshmen orientation leader and it would be cool to know wether or not you were in my group.
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No, I'm just taking the one class at SVU -- I'm at another local college. I met with my orientation leader today, and our classes start Monday.
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I remember seeing on the SVU brochure that dorm arrangements can include a stable for your pony. [Frown] <--- doesn't have a pony.
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What about a horse? A short horse?

I thought SVU wasn't officially LDS at all.

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That was a long time ago. SVU used to have an equestrian program, but it took a lot of upkeep and cost a lot of money. So they got rid of the horses and turned the stables into an athletic facility.
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Aww, that's so sad. [Frown]

<-- thinks all colleges/universities should have horses

<-- was deprived because hers didn't

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Indeed. Will, who are your orientation group leader/s? What teacher did you have for your break out section?
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Well the first lesson was a bit of a disappointment since OSC is in L.A. and as such was unable to attend, but he did hand down a ginormous reading assignment through another teacher.
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Everyone I met on campus today was smiles and courtesy. I may have to go back!
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The reading assignment was to read OSC's book on characterization, before the next class session.
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