The Gemarrah will never be the same not in the original Vilna publication, but that's the best you'll get. They're damn expensive, though.
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The Gemarrah will never be the same not in the original Vilna publication, but that's the best you'll get. They're damn expensive, though.
Just be wary of Artscroll books. They're okay for beginners, but they oversimplify a lot, and they tend to ignore alternate opinions in favor of one monolithic view that may not always reflect any kind of Orthodox Jewish consensus.
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See, the only thing of ArtScroll's that I possess is their cheapest Hebrew-only prayer-book, which cost me 5 times as much as another one from a different publication (that's also far better, and the book - though smaller - is hardcover).
I wouldn't know about their commentary. I specifically got something without it (or translation, for that matter).
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quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: See, the only thing of ArtScroll's that I possess is their cheapest Hebrew-only prayer-book, which cost me 5 times as much as another one from a different publication (that's also far better, and the book - though smaller - is hardcover).
I wouldn't know about their commentary. I specifically got something without it (or translation, for that matter).
I like Rinat Yisrael better.
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quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: *Laughs*, yeah - forgot about that!
Though it makes your eyes hurt, it's still the highest-quality font around.
<shrug> I'm not sure what the objective criteria are for a font being high quality, but I far prefer the one used in the Rinat. I think it's called Frank Ruehl.
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It's either Frank Ruehl or Times New Roman. The criterion from Koren's point on a good font is one that can cover all the Siddur/Machzor will ever need. And Guttman Keren (their font) is excellent because it fits letters, Niqqud and cantillation easily. It's FAR easier and better to read than Rinat Yisrael's typeface for Biblical passages.
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quote:Originally posted by Jonathan Howard: It's either Frank Ruehl or Times New Roman. The criterion from Koren's point on a good font is one that can cover all the Siddur/Machzor will ever need. And Guttman Keren (their font) is excellent because it fits letters, Niqqud and cantillation easily. It's FAR easier and better to read than Rinat Yisrael's typeface for Biblical passages.
It does do better with trope. That's true.
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Hmm, this thread has completely evolved beyond its original topic (which in itself wasn't something I would have expected to find in this forum). Not that I'm complaining, it had some interesting moments, and brought back some vague memories from my final grammar exam on 10th grade .
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As Scot in Israel, I've never been totally unable to communicate with an Israeli. Most Israelis (native Hebrew and native Arabic speakers) that I encounter do speak very good English. However, the people I encounter do tend to be university students, and you have to be able to speak a reasonably high level of English in order to get into university.
However, that said, I still encounter fluent English speakers in the least expected places.
It also helps that I speak rudimentary Hebrew, and that charades can be employed (not the case on ICQ).
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You can always talk to me in English, and I'm barely part of any university. I was a part - briefly - two years ago, but not really now.
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I tried reading this thread. Got halfway through it and wanted to kill myself. Grammar Nazis! Its ok guys. As long as the other guy gets the jist of what you mean you can usually figure out the rest. Posts: 832 | Registered: Jan 2005
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They are all infinitives.
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Bah, I don't think I was ever taught english grammar, like WTF is an infinitive? We hear about in french class all the f*****g time yet we never understand it.
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quote:What do the words "teach", "fight", "catch", "think", "wreak", "buy" and "seek" have in common?
The past tense of teach is taught The past tense of fight is fought The past tense of catch is caught The past tense of think is thought The past tense of wreak is wrought The past tense of buy is bought The past tense of seek is sought
I'll say it again: if I hadn't grown up speaking English, I can't imagine I'd have had the patience to learn something so wonky.
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: Bah, I don't think I was ever taught english grammar, like WTF is an infinitive? We hear about in french class all the f*****g time yet we never understand it.
To go. To walk. To speak. To boldly go where no man has gone before.
When you hear people going on about split infinitives (one of the two big crimes against pedantic grammarians), what they mean is what I did above. They'd say it should be "to go boldly". Splitting an infinitive means putting anything between "to" and the verb it's attached to.
The New Oxford Dictionary of English says, quite sanely, that splitting infinitives is absolutely fine, so long as you're making yourself understood.
Another bugaboo (the other crime against pedants) is ending a sentence with a preposition. You're not supposed to say "Where are you going to". You're supposed to say, "To where are you going".
I read somewhere about the a**hole clause, which says that you can fix any sentence that ends in a preposition by adding a comma and the word "a**hole". So if you ask someone "Where are you going to?" and they bust you about ending the sentence with a preposition, you simply re-ask it as "Where are you going to, a**hole?"
Needless to say, the New Oxford Dictionary of English blows this silly rule off as well.
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quote:I have that exam in another few months. Any advice besides listening vigilantly, which I do?
Are you talking about בחינת בגרות בלשון ? Because that's what I was refering to. And I have no advice. I forgot everything Posts: 28 | Registered: Oct 2003
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