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Of course, once you try to stem the tears, it's "Dingle Belle, Dingle Belle, Dingle Belle Rock..." Posts: 14745 | Registered: Dec 1999
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First off, to answer the question at hand, after 4 years in college getting an english degree I have run into dozens of experiences where authors shattered their own reality. Second, if you're looking for, in my opinion, believable female characters written by a male Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series is a good place to go. Third, no one should ever, and I mean ever grab their dingle and hold on real tight...it can cause lots of damage ...and one last thing...no author should ever use a word like dingle..i don't care what the context it shatters the reality all on its own.
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My fiance, after I relayed this thread to him, informed me, "Hun, I love you, but if you ever use that word at an inappropriate moment I promise you it will damage my sexual psyche forever."
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Oh dear...there are so many things I'm never going to be able to think about without laughing from now on!
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And as this thread just continues to get dirtier and dirtier the number of posts hits 69...kind of amusing...or at least ironic to some degree
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Mack!!! Now I have "What a bright time, it's the right time, to rock the night away, Dingle Belle time, is a swell time..." Posts: 944 | Registered: Jun 2001
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quote:First off, to answer the question at hand, after 4 years in college getting an english degree I have run into dozens of experiences where authors shattered their own reality.
Hmm...in four years of college getting a literature degree plus two years of grad school getting a masters in lit, I've never seen anything quite this bad.
I did see lots of famous writers who didn't seem able to write either gender convincingly, but that's a different story...
quote:Oh, Icarus, have you ever had a thread that went THIS much off-topic?
Nope. But then, I've never had a thread reach 2 pages in 2½ hours either. Just goes to show the power of fluff.
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Ha! I just took a nap and missed this entire thread.
I'm not having much trouble writing from a woman's perspective at the moment. I'm working on a project from the female POV (it's called 101 Ways to Find a Great Guy in NYC), and I've only been called out once for writing too manly.
And not once have I suggested "sliding a couple fingers into your winkie in case of nervousness".
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This thread had me laughing. I don't laugh very easily. I love the songs, if only we could record them.
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I might have heard it before. I like 'classic rock', meaning music from the sixties and seventies I guess. I'm eighteen. I'm pretty sure I got it from my parents though; they usually listen to that type of music.
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Icarus, unless that story was chronicling one man's journey into the S&M scene, I can't think of a single good reason for the dingle comment(s). Did the author use these boyhood experiences as an explanation for ANYTHING????
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Bob, the entire story centered around a boy; those passages were not flashbacks. And I also can't think of why they were necessary. She could just as well have said, "I bit my lower lip to keep from crying," and readers of both genders could have identified.
Fernando, I agree that Jordan's female characters are one of his strengths, but I guess only a female could say if they were "realistic" or not. I say they're a strength because they are dynamic and interesting, and not walking stereotypes. And, unlike some other famous works, the Wheel of Time series at least has some significant female characters.
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The only thing i could think of was that possibly crying was not an accepted thing in this boy's world? In the stereotypical (notice i said STEREOTYPICAL) "man" world, i would imagine crying to be a no-no. The other thing I was thinking which would probably explain -- or at least shed some light on the dingle pulling, is that often times when someone's in pain they can ease it by transferring their attentions to something else. The dingle, in this case. Misdirection, is it called? Try to equate the boy "losing an arm" to "wanting to cry" and i think you'll see where i'm going with this.
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I see where you're going, and in fact, crying is completely unacceptable in the society in this story, but pulling my dingle would only make me more inclined to cry!
The fact that the grown men are all lousy fathers and abusive jerks is another point worth discussing, but I could stomach that more easily, particularly since the women are also indicted, by their failure to save their sons along with their daughters. According to the story, children of both genders stayed home with their mothers while the men worked; the mothers took all the girls but left the boys behind.
So I just saw this as an issue with this particular culturally homogenous group of colonists, and attempted to not read it as an indictment of males in general. If I wanted to, though, I could probably work up some indignation over it...
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OK, I hadn't thought about that. But it doesn't explain the other two quotes, so I ain't a-buying.
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...and one last thing...no author should ever use a word like dingle..i don't care what the context it shatters the reality all on its own.
