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As far as I know the world will not actually end, if you haven't figured out by that point then maybe just isn't there, the people, i.e. myself and Rhaegar, who directed people there already knew what was going on so maybe it wasn't really spelled out there, still world is spinnid as it should be, so if you have no idea what it is about then you probably shouldn't have any idea.
And as Rhaegar, and Raia, and rivka all poited out, Raia did not start the other thread, and she only started this one because some of what was said on the other was very hurtful.
And Rhaegar is a nice guy, he has a different way of saying things, and an odd sense of humors, but trust me he meant no harm, he just has a different way of being nice, I mean I'm sticking up for him and he has said he would kill me on more than one occassion.
Basically I just think this whole thing got out of hand, and it should basically be dropped.
And I apologize to anyone I upset with that post or any others on this subject. (it seems that every post on either thread has upset someone)
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Raia, I missed the posts where you said you were only "feeling that way" not actually going to do it.
Please don't say you're going to kill yourself, even if you do take it back later. Please!
And I would like to add my unqualified supportive comments. I'm sorry you and your dad aren't seeing things the same way and I really hope you can work it out soon and find some common ground. It sucks to be warring with your parents about something as important as school (or anything for that matter).
Typical situation: It's your life, and their money. Bound to cause lots of conflicts. Plus, they have your best interests at heart, but the fact remains that they may not know what you want and what will really make you happy. They may also have dreams for you that you are forcing them to revise on the fly, also while they contemplate the possibility that you will waste your college years pursuing something that will not lead to a good career with decent earning potential.
I'm stretching here since you haven't given us much in the way of actual data. And your dad may be a real cold one. I don't know.
So, the bottom line is that I just hope it all works out and gets better soon.
I also hope that you never "feel like killing" yourself, even if you don't mean it.
(Suicidal ideation runs the gamut from mild to very serious. Your statements seemed to be on the milder end of things. But still, they are not the same as NOT having thoughts of suicide. Right? So, if you really AREN'T thinking of suicide, then don't say you are. If you are thinking of suicide, then get some counseling.
Don't shrug this stuff off or laugh it away. When people joke about it, the idea becomes easier and more familiar. Easier to entertain ideas of suicide means they are no longer mild, but chronic. Then what? Are you still joking if you joke 1000 times? 100? 10?
When does the outside world know when you've gone too far? When it's too late? When you stop saying "just kidding" 3x for every threat?
Will Kat find out Ralphie is carrying OSC's love child? Will Rhaegar finally discover that the woman he loves is really his father's brother's goat? And worse... that that goat doesn't love him? Will pooka come out of her coma in time to warn Euvre that Raia is so jealous of her popularity that she intends to steal her precious? Will Bob the Lawyer manage to win back Ralphie, after losing her to both OSC (and Kat) because of his torrid love affair with jeniwren (the wife of the man he thought was his brother but was really his estranged father)?
Only time will tell.
Next time, on "All My Hatrack"
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Ayelar - Are you, like me, becoming weary of what seems to be people using Hatrack to spill their problems, insist on help and suggestions for delicate situations that no one could possibly know the answer to, and then wash, rinse, repeat? Do you find that you tend to have a knee-jerk reaction whenever you perceive someone doing so?
I see an unsympathetic and knee-jerk reaction in myself because I sometimes feel taxed by what seems to me sometimes to be demanded emotional support, and have to quell it frequently. (Of course, I just posted a recent family tragedy, so I'm not entirely innocent of using Hatrack as an emotional support system, myself.)
Rhaegar, Marek, et al - Before you bust an aorta, please know that I don't believe Raia has done, is doing, or will do this at all.
My question is: is Ayelar fed up with OTHER things she perceives as a problem on Hatrack, and this is just another something in a string of somethings?
quote: Will Bob the Lawyer manage to win back Ralphie, after losing her to both OSC (and Kat) because of his torrid love affair with jeniwren (the wife of the man he thought was his brother but was really his estranged father)?
Yes, but only after you realize how much you truly loved me while I'm in a coma, and your sweet, repentent tears that fall gracefully to my face finally wake me in a miracle of science.
It's next season's sweeps.
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woohoo, I got to have a torrid love affair. I couldn't quite unwind the sentence enough to know who with, but it sounded fun. The important thing to know is that I'm a skank for marrying someone's brother, when in fact he was his father. I must find some skanky clothes and explain this all to Ross.
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quote: Will Rhaegar finally discover that the woman he loves is really his father's brother's goat? And worse... that that goat doesn't love him? Will pooka come out of her coma in time to warn Euvre that Raia is so jealous of her popularity that she intends to steal her precious?
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Bob_Scopatz: I'm so sorry, my post before was so rude and mean and uncalled for, I apologize. I was just a little distressed. Right now I'd just like to say that I did feel unhappy to the point where that was how I felt , I never actually considered it, and I never will... I just felt that way because I was so constantly unhappy, and life didn't seem to be getting brighter. I'm sorry if I scared you, I realized afterwards that I shouldn't have said that, and I really do apologize, I won't say it anymore. Ok? Can you forgive me? I'm so so sorry, I really am.
The rest of you, I seem to have screwed up my case dramatically here... lemme put it this way; I'm so sorry for all the distress or anger I may have caused any of you, I honestly didn't mean to cause any of it. I got home from school today, and checked on this thread, and (yes, I will admit this) burst into tears, not because I was essentially still as hurt as I initally was by what some people said, but because I had hurt people. I made one poster feel unhappy, unwanted, hated; I made several posters angry, and they all think that I'm a pathetic juvenile who thinks only of herself; and I pissed off an entire forum with my "melodramatics." So, I felt terrible, and I cried for a very long time, I talked to several wonderful people who were all trying to console me, but the truth was that I felt absolutely awful, I felt like such a horrible person for having caused all of this havoc, and dissention. So again, I'm so sorry about it all, I did not have any intention of pissing people off, and making people feel hated. On the contrary, this is the very last thing I wanted, and it greatly distressed me to find that I had that effect on people.
I hope you can forgive me, and we can go on from there. I really do love this place, I turn to it for support, and if I overdid it, please forgive me, I'm sorry.
quote:In every relationship people have to put in what they take out, or the other party will eventually become resentful that they are being taxed without any compensation.
-Ralphie 11/22/03
I think this is more true for personal problems than it is for fluff.
I believe that more than anything else, the people here want to leave the world (even this virtual world) a better place than when they found it. Whether that is through teaching, encouragement or laughter depends on the poster.
If you're going to make a problem public, be prepared to be helped. If you're just looking for someplace to whine... well, make it a brief and make sure that we all know that you just want to unload.
There are wonderful people here. If they're made to worry needlessly or without hope of making the problem go away, they're going to get angry. Angry because they care.
quote: I made one poster feel unhappy, unwanted, hated; I made several posters angry, and they all think that I'm a pathetic juvenile who thinks only of herself; and I pissed off an entire forum with my "melodramatics."
No.
Ayelar is a woman of... strong passions. She speaks out vehemently about things she feels and thinks, and I honestly believe she doesn't really mean to be taken so fiercely until someone inevitably reacts to it as such.
I think I know the root of her feelings on this, and I honestly don't think it really has as much to do with you as it does a pattern that Hatrack's nurturing manner has developed.
Of course, Ayelar can correct me if I'm wrong and speaking out of turn.
If someone thinks you're melodramatic 4 serious, then they haven't been reading your posts, and they are forgetting the heightened nature of being a teenager. Compared to me at your age, you're a stoic. And anyone who believes you only think about yourself will be getting a wedgie from the Ralphster.
So they better not be steppin'.
Raia - you're fine. The original thread wasn't, but it's gone. This thread started off dubious, but it eventually turned into Bob the Lawyer confessing his love for me for the nth time, so ultimately it, too, is a keeper.
And I've got yo back, and that's really all that matters. Fo rills.
edit: And LadyDove posted in it, so now it's perfect.
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My only concern here is that I really wish Rhaegar wouldn't treat the girl he has a crush on like a shrinking violet. Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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OK. *is relieved* If he ever treats ME like a shrinking violet, it's only so he can recussitate me. Posts: 4174 | Registered: Sep 2003
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quote: My only concern here is that I really wish Rhaegar wouldn't treat the girl he has a crush on like a shrinking violet.
I hate to prove my own stupidity here, but what does that mean? I'm not familiar with the phrase "a shrinking violet" and just was wondering if it could be explained for the sake of the uneducated.
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I'm going to edit my previous comment in the hope that this will be seen as helpful and not another shovel-full.
I would like to draw an analogy to when people get locked in an argument and lose perspective. Could it be possible to get locked into sympathy and lose perspective? (Edit: I think this was why T_Smith deleted the hug thread prior to this one)
There is a phenomenon in medicine called secondary gain, where someone stays sick because of the sympathy. It's not deliberate, but it is real.
And Raia, I have especial issues with college funding because it ended my father's second marriage. That woman wasn't my mother, but it was still hard on him. Parents take this as serious as children sometimes.
"Eruve, you may want to give your precious to your nephew. I think you're starting to turn."
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