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Dagonee
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Paula Jones brought her suit because she had been named as providing willing sex when Clinton was governor. Clinton's sexual history with people who worked for him was absolutely relevant to the case at hand.

Were there people assisting her for political reasons? Absolutely. Could she have brought the suit without them? Maybe not.

But her cause of action was sound enough to warrant discovery, and it's a sad day indeed when someone can't have recourse to the courts because the only people willing to help her were politically motivated.

Otherwise, we'd have to question most of the major Supreme Court decisions since Brown.

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The Silverblue Sun
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A blow job Vs. 15,000 dead Iraqis and 1000 american soldiers.

Hmmm.....

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Dagonee
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Yes, because I said the two were equivalent. [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
EDIT: Also, keep in mind that the president has virtually no control over domestic policy. He can just veto and "propose" bills and budgets which congress can then dump on. For instance, the #1 thing Clinton wanted was health care reform, but due to consistent underestimation of cost (HUGE underestimation, btw) and miles of bureacracy, it lost its large public support and congress refused to pass it. The idea that he could control the economy is ludicrous not just because the economy is uncontrollable, but also because that's not one of his specified powers.

What we need to focus on is foreign policy, where Bush is very vulnerable, but keep in mind that Clinton had a very unstable foreign policy as well. The reluctance to enter into Kosovo (and there was a lot of that) certainly shook up Europe (people assume that Europe's standoffish position towards us immediately started when Bush entered office; it didn't. Kosovo first proved that the US was no longer interested in handling all of Europe's problems) and the reluctance to resolve our positions overseas (Somalia, the Embassy bombing, etc.) is a testemonial to the fact that up until recently America has largely ignored the rest of the world. We elect the President on domestic policy, the area he's specifically weak on, and then we judge him on how well we're doing domestically.

Hopefully this will be the first foreign-policy-dominated Presidential election in a while. Maybe the first in a long line.

Very good Book! Hit it on the head. Three cheers! [Smile]
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Mr.Gumby
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*looks at thread title*
[Roll Eyes]
no he's not
[ROFL]

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Bob the Lawyer
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They sure weren't, Dags. Clinton lost millions of his "little soldiers" for his indiscretion. Bush's military death toll isn't nearly so high [Wink]
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No, you those two are not equal.

President Clinton got impeached for his lies.

President Bush hopes to get reelected for his lies.

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Rakeesh
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Of course, the assumption that what you're referring to are indiscretions and lies is just that: an assumption.

One I tend to attribute to pandering and incompetence on behalf of Dubya and Cheney more than lying and indiscretion.

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TomDavidson
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Why, why, WHY do Republican administrations always force me to decide whether I'd rather believe the president is incompetent or amoral?
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You'd rather know off the bat which it is? I got kinda tired of that, myself.
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Tom: [ROFL]

Thank you...but you never said which was your favorite.... [Big Grin]

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