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Katarain
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Pshaw. Don't take it all so seriously.

Hey, has Kerry mentioned Vietnam or his service yet? I don't think I've heard it...

Impressive.

-Katarain

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Hey, a joke.

--j_k

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Indeed... by getting under my skin quite a bit...
*Frustrated by politics*

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Don't take what the person in charge of deploying our troops, and signing legislation into law is saying seriously? Are you 12? (I'm sorry if I've just insulted any 12 year olds out there)

[ October 08, 2004, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: celia60 ]

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Teshi
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I'm seeing the same thing as I did with the VPs.

"Your record STINKS!"
"Speak for YOURSELF!"

hehe

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celia60
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What is an inner-city sore spot?
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Katarain
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Well, Mostly, don't take ME seriously. I am a Bush supporter, but I'm not trying to convince anyone here. Why bother? You all are obviously so much more informed than I am and have already made up your minds.

So therefore, if my sense of irreverance offends you, please don't let it. It's not worth it, seriously.

And yeah... why get all stressed out about all of this? Do your best to convince as many voters as you can to vote for your candidate and vote for him yourself come election day. But don't have a stroke.

And no, I'm not 12. But if I were, does it matter how old I am?

-Katarain

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President Bush is recouping, but he just lied his ass off about the environment. Edit: At least I'm reasonably sure he did. We'll see tommorow.

[ October 08, 2004, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: MrSquicky ]

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(((Katarain))) [Kiss] [Smile]
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it wasn't europe mr bush, it was japan...jackass.
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I noticed that, McSquicky. I got to do do more research about that... Currently I have a whole stack of political books to read.
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Katarain
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The Environment... that's one area where I really don't like the Republican stance.

We should be taking better care of our home.

-Katarain

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quote:
You all are obviously so much more informed than I am and have already made up your minds.

Excellent approach to communication.

And I suppose the only thing that matters about your age is if you are over 18 or not. I assure you, hatrack has had some brilliant people younger than that.

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Speed
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Is anyone going to ask about immigration or gay marriage?
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John Kerry's Red Bull looks like it's wearing off. His energy level is dropping and his message is getting boring.

George Bush has finally stopped whining and ranting. He's looking a lot more steady.

Oh oh, George Bush just used the 900,000 small business argument...Dick Cheney told the whole world about FactCheck.org. We know that's not right.

edit: The writing something down in the background while the other guy is talking is kinda pissing me off. I get it. You don't want to let people seee your facial expressions, but this writing crap is just insulting my intelligence.

[ October 08, 2004, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: MrSquicky ]

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Did I hear Bush correctly? Did he call Kerry, Kennedy, when he was talking about the most liberal senator in Congress?

That was probably not a smart thing to do on Bush's part. Throwing around the 'liberal' label is like to piss people off who might otherwise vote for him as a 'Compassionate Conservative'.

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"Mr president, i think my privacy and rights are being stripped from me."

"Gee i hope you don't think that."

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Katarain
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quote:
Excellent approach to communication.
Thank you. [Smile] I was actually sincere about that. I read a lot on politics, but I don't make it a subject of study. I've been too busy partly, and the other part, I've studied the subject as much as I care to. The fact that most politically-minded hatrackers know more than me is just that--a FACT. Republicans, Democrats, and Independants. I know enough to be satisfied with my decision.

But please, you're attacking me because I made a joke about Kerry loving and wanting to marry the U.N. And then I LAUGHED and said that was my CHILDISH reply. So, I am the one who said my reply was childish in the first place. If you had been paying attention, you'd know that I have been joking around here. And my advice to you is: Lighten up. Take this as seriously as you want, but don't get all upset if people like me are making light jokes.

-Katarain

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celia60
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I'm not upset, just bewildered. Why are actually bothering to post?
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Katarain
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I'm adding another reply instead of editing...

You don't see me getting all upset about Ben calling the President names. But maybe that's because I've heard it so much.

-Katarain

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quote:
Originally posted by Katarain
Do your best to convince as many voters as you can to vote for your candidate and vote for him yourself come election day.

OK. Everybody vote Libertarian. I will [Razz]
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celia60
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And you're also failing to appreciate my sense of sarcasm, but that's ok.

Are you old enough to vote.

And Kerry is doing something I hate. Using an individual's pain to try to create motivation. Stick with figures, dude.

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Katarain
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Oh. Okay. Bewildered is better than upset.

Lower blood pressure. [Smile]

I'm posting because my husband and I are watching the debate, and sometimes I feel like making comments.

I may sound flippant... I may act like I'm flippant... I may SAY I'm flippant... but I care about this. I hate what Kerry stands for. He offends me. I post for the same reason the Bush-hater posts, I suppose...but I try to censor what I say. Perhaps I am relying on ....flippancy too much.. or my poor brand of humor.

-Katarain

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John Kerry isn't displaying enough emotion for the embryonic stem-cell research question. It could be a winner, but he's too wooden and his delivery is too faltering. I don't feel he really cares about the people he's talking about. For a moral issue like this, especially one where President Bush is strong, you need to tweak the emotions.

Oddly enough, I don't think George Bush is coming across with enough emotion. He wasn't strong there either.

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Ben
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i wonder if the president is gonna bring up his secret plan to fight inflation...
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Ben
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hey kat, what about kerry do you loathe?
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He's not going to choose a judge that will allow slavery? Does that mean I'll have to release my boy? That's it, I'm voting for Kerry.

Way to give the blandest and least controversial answer possible.

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Yeah, I'm left unsatisfied by both of thier replies to stem cell research.
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...we have a secret plan to fight inflation ?!? [Wink]
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Ben
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somebody better go tell the president.
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shhhh...it's a secret. If inflation finds out that we're going to fight, we're screwed.
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I've been waiting for this. The John Kerry abortion/faith thing.
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He doesn't want to deny a poor person something that the constitution allows them to have? Does that mean that he's going to raise taxes to buy poor people Playstations and Rolexes?
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i hope so. man that would be so COOL!
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No, President Bush, it's not that simple.
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quote:
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Is anyone going to ask about immigration or gay marriage?

Umm, nope.
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"words you've never heard of and some of 'em are big"

ummm WHAT?!

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I really liked Kerry's abortion answer. I agreed with it. I thought it was good.

EDIT: Yeah, I want a same sex marriage and immigration discussion too. [Frown]

[ October 08, 2004, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]

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Q: When have you made a wrong decision?

A: Here is a list of my correct decisions. I'm such a genius. Oh, by the way, I'll take responsibility for my wrong decisions.

[ October 08, 2004, 10:31 PM: Message edited by: Speed ]

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hes not giving 3 instances.
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Antidisestablishmentarianism?

Oddly, in making a joke of the longest word I know, I may have actually answered Ben's question. [ROFL]

[ October 08, 2004, 10:31 PM: Message edited by: celia60 ]

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I hate those questions... like in an interview.. "What is your biggest weakness?" Not that I don't think it's a valid question... I just don't like it.

Things I hate about Kerry?

His actions after Vietnam.
His position on the U.N. and the U.S.

Those are the two BIG ones.

The fact that I agree more with republicans than democrats on most issues is part of it, too, of course.

-Katarain

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DAMMIT! I'm wanting him to answer the mistakes question....i want my 3 instances. i want it i want it i want it.

(i learned how to throw a tantrum from this debate. yay bush yay)

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There's a sound bite: "If he were in power... we'd all be better off." [Smile]

[ October 08, 2004, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: Speed ]

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I think you should amend the second one to your interpretation of his position on the UN.
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what position on the UN and the US?

and how can you loathe a man for serving his country only to come back and regret things he'd done and participated in?

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Um...did Bush just address Kerry as "ma'am"?
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Nah. I don't think I'll amend it. I hear what he's saying. I don't believe it.

If he committed crimes, he needs to pay for them.

-Katarain

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but bush should be immune to consequences for criminal acts and/or negligence?
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No.
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