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Are you going to change your last name to Scopatz or the IRL equivalent? P.S. Sorry if this has been discussed a million times and I've missed it.
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Even if someone keeps her name it is proper to address her as "Mrs. <Husband's full name>", so that doesn't necessarily indicate her taking his name.
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quote:Even if someone keeps her name it is proper to address her as "Mrs. <Husband's full name>", so that doesn't necessarily indicate her taking his name.
Oooh that's going to piss off my sister. It's one of her objections to getting married. She can't stand the idea of suddenly becoming Mrs. <husband's name>.
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Suneun, Willpatz is fine, I just liked the "o" to make it flow off the tongue a little easier.
And I disagree that it is proper to call a woman by a name she chooses not to be called. (except in this case, where we are renaming the couple at our whim.)
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One should not call someone a name they do not want to be called, but in terms of etiquette where no further information is available it is an acceptable form of address.
For instance, it is perfectly acceptable to send an invitation to Mr. and Mrs. Bob Jones, unless you know that Mrs. Bob Jones prefers to be called Mrs. Samantha Rogers, in which case you send the invitation to Mr. Bob Jones and Mrs. Samantha Rogers.
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Further note: It is still not well settled whether or not a woman who does not take her husband's name should use Mrs. or Ms.
I know one teacher where I went to high school, for instance, that uses her husband's name and Mrs. in personal situations, and her own name and Ms. in professional ones.
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Obvious solution: she should get a degree that comes with a title and not have to worry about it. Posts: 9866 | Registered: Apr 2002
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Actually, fugu, it's never proper to use Mrs. if the woman keeps her own name, it's always Ms. That's why your teacher switches the honorific when she's using her own vs. her husband's name. So in your example it would be Mr. Bob Jones and Ms. Samantha Roberts, or Mr. & Mrs. Bob Jones. And if she has taken his name but you want to use both first names, it would be Mr. Bob and Ms. Samantha Jones. You should never use Mrs. and then use the woman's given name.
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No, we discussed childhood TV memories this weekend and he watched The Muppet Show.
He was too old for Sesame Street, though. So he probably never read Monster at the End of This Book. It's sad, really.
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ElJay -- I understand that in a vacuum that's what one would choose, but I also know there are many women who ask to be called Mrs. when they are still using their own names, so many that while formal etiquette might prefer otherwise, it has to acknowledge the demand.
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See, while if someone told me that was their preference, I would certainly honor it, the way I understand formal ettiquite is that it does not acknowledge such demands. So while the polite thing to do is to use the form of address the person prefers, it is still the wrong form of address.
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Formal etiquette changes, whatever some practitioners would like to believe. It is not well-defined, either, even when it has not changed, partly because it relies on such things as common sense, which are also not well defined .
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"He was too old for Sesame Street, though. So he probably never read Monster at the End of This Book. It's sad, really."
Yes, but he was old enough to be able to watch the Brady Bunch on Friday nights, and that cancels out the sadness of a Sesame Streetless childhood.
Wait. He might have been too old for the Bradys as well. OK, let me think.
The Munsters! He is old enough, and was young enough, to be able to watch first run episodes of the Munsters. Go Bob! (or should I say Robana...)
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The Sesame Street thing doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the fact that he’s never read A Wrinkle In Time or any of The Chronicles of Narnia, though.
But he just found out that I’ve never seen Young Frankenstein and almost had a coronary. I guess I shouldn't spring stuff on him like that. You’ve got to be careful with these old guys.
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Oh, Dana! No "Young Frankenstein," and you are marrying Bob? And the sad thing is it just won't be as funny as it would have been when you were a teen. Funny, but not AS funny. Just like The Chronicles could never be the same as read when a child.
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Oh, I don’t know -- when I figured out that the Green Lady was really Ludwig Feuerbach it gave me no end of amusement. Much funnier than when I read them as a child.
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Contrary to popular opinion, I did not help edit the 1st draft of the Bible.
Elizabeth...Addam's Family was more my speed, but the Munsters were definitely worth watching. As was Batman. Good corny jokes.
I do remember when TV was ONLY black & white. But I remember the shows as if they were all in color. Go figure.
Push button phones were a BIG deal and not that many people had them when I was learning to DIAL a phone.
Radio still had a few serials but mostly for nostalgia's sake.
I did have Captain Kangaroo, Romper Room and Mr. Rogers.
Sesame Street might've been a possibility had I lived in one of the few PBS markets back in the early days, but I think it started where I was back in the early 70's, in which case I was a little too old.
Fortunately for dkw, I own a copy of Young Frankenstein and she can give it a try whenever she'd like. I was a little shocked that this viewing would also be her introduction to Cloris Leechman (sp?)!!! That just surprised the heck out of me.
I'm just glad Dana is taking it easy on me. More shocks like that and I might have to check into the ICU for a few days!!!
quote: You should never use Mrs. and then use the woman's given name.
*shakes head* Actually, that is the proper form of address for a divorcée. So I am formally addressed as Mrs. Rivka <insert last name here>. Which is good, because I don't wish to be addressed as Mrs. <TheJerk> <insert last name here>. Posts: 32919 | Registered: Mar 2003
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quote: Formal etiquette changes, whatever some practitioners would like to believe. It is not well-defined, either, even when it has not changed, partly because it relies on such things as common sense, which are also not well defined .
Bob, you aren't really that much older than me, I remember all of those too.
I was originally from PA, and I have met Mr. Rogers...what a wonderful man! I was too shy to sya hi to him (I was 6!), and after the flight HE came up to ME and asked if I wanted a picture, autographed. He had noticed me staring at him the enire filght.
He was a wonderful guy, and everyone in PA loved him and his show.
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I just have to comment about the whole hyphenated name thing that was happening on the linked thread, but I didn't want to drag it back up again, so I'm posting it here.
Can you imagine if Dana and Bob had a kid with a hyphenated name and the kid married someone else with a hyphenated name? Jill Williams-Scopatz-marries Tom Smith-Jones and become Jill Williams-Scopatz-Smith-Jones? I mean, really, where would it all end?
I really liked the idea in Father of the Bride. Where they take the letters of the existing name and make up a whole new one. I think Steve Martin said something like, "You mean I could have a granddaughter named Sophie Zenkman?"
In my family, for some weird reason, my son, brother and father all have my grandmother's maiden name as their middle name. I had such hopes when I was young. I desperately hated my name. It's one syllable, one syllable. Jane Doe. Like that, you know? I really wanted something with two or more syllables. So of course, I married Bob Smith and became Jane Smith. Ugh. So, I decided to use my middle name for everything. Jane Kathryn Smith. I'm such a dork.
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Not only am I going to stay dkw for all internet related activities, I am going to continue to initial real life things this way. I'm much more attached to my initials than I am to my last name.
(Besides, it would have to be dk_s)
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