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I am a full-fledged hippy!! But I wasn't around in the 60's and 70's...so don't ask if I have gotten high because the answer is no. I am a huge enviroment freak and am a vegetarian(no telling how long I will be able to stand it......because those McDonald's cheeseburgers are really calling). Does anyone know where all of my brethren have gone? I can't find any under rocks anywhere... Posts: 13 | Registered: Feb 2005
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Well, the best place on the web to find hippies is Happy Hippie . I think they all kind of grew old and went corporate, but there's a "new wave" of us into environmetalism and tie-dye.
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Just remember that those McDonald's cheeseburgers are dead flesh. Works for me everytime. Oh, and most McDonald's will make you a grilled cheese, by the way.
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Just remember, it's hard to argue the merits of vegetarianism while wearing suede Birkenstoks or a leather jacket...
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Lost Ashes, you bring up an interesting theory - and one that I hear all the time, said with a slight sneer.
It is quite possible to argue the merits of vegetarianism while continuing to use animal products in clothing, shoes, etc. Many people are vegetarians for health reasons and no other reason beyond that. But if we're talking about a self-named hippy, than yep....I expect them to weave their own shoes out of natural fibers.
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Some of my vegetarian friends get around that by only buying second hand leather...not sure if that counts.
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That's funny, dpr. I'm not sure if it counts either, but it's a damned good try.
Personally, though I'm a vegetarian, I do wear leather shoes and have leather and suede purses. *waits for the "real" hippies to protest* But, I've also discovered that it's virtually impossible to not use animal products (though my use is blantent). After discovering that animal products are used in VCR tapes I kinda gave up.
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Last I heard most of them grew up, started doing coke, and mutated into yuppies. The hippie ideal was always unworkable; you are never going to convince those in power to give it up via peace, love, and reefer. The people in power like crusades, cash, and alcohol. Besides, for every one true hippy there were three or four who were just in it for the sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Of course the men also had the always-popular "moral" excuse not to die in some godforsaken Asian hellhole while killing yellow people. So support the war in Iraq, and in a few more years the hippies might rise again.
If you are familiar with hippy-speak, the word "gone" has special meaning, as in: "way gone, man!" Ideally, all hippies are "gone."
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My sister buys second-hand furs and leather. Her idea is to not increase the demand, but not let that specific animal's death be in vain by getting as much use out of it as possible.
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"Where have all the Flowers Gone" was written in 1961.
If the Hippies weren't around by then, surely the Beatniks were. "I'm Hip, man!" Seems to me probably a cross over period.
As a point of interest, Pete Seeger once played a song written by my mother on national television. He later recorded the song. Last fall we met him at the Sloop Club, and he began singing the song to my mother.
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"Of course the men also had the always-popular "moral" excuse not to die in some godforsaken Asian hellhole while killing yellow people"
Are you implying that hippies did not fight in the Vietnam War? Because you would be very wrong about that.
I know a number of friends I consider to be "real" hippies, though they would not really agree about what, exactly, a hippie is.
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GA, if you read the history of the song, that's not the earliest version of it. There's an earlier version that was recorded in 195... 7? I think? ...according to what I read.
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I'm just looking at the sheet music in a "Sing Out" publication: "Rise up Singing." It says one of the verses was written by Joe Hickerson. Inspired by 3 lines from a Ukrainian folksong.
Probably has some history, it's a folk song afterall...
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1956 is the earliest I found. The confusing thing with copyright is that each individual performance can be copyrighted, as well as the original lyrics and music.
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"someone who rejects the established culture; advocates extreme liberalism in politics and lifestyle"
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Actually I don't think the tune is original. I've heard it somewhere else.
Sounds to me like Pete probably wrote part of it, but it wasn't complete until Hickerson added the last verse in 1961. (although the last verse is the first verse, so does he get writing credit for a reprise? If not, which verse did he write? Maybe he added the soldiers to graveyards, in order to make graveyards to flowers possible.)
Like I said, it's folk song.
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Nah, that definition is way too general. The Hippies were a product of a specific generation, with culture handed down from the hobo culture of the Great Depression, and the beat generation of the fifties, along with a general sprinkling of american folk music.
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Not so much the real hippies as the people who took only the fun/convenient parts of the philosophy, and were dishonest with others (and sometimes themselves) about their reasons for doing so.
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"He's an old hippie but he don't know what to do should he hang onto the old should he grab onto the new? . . . He ain't trying' to change nobody He's just trying real hard to adjust."
I miss that man so much - he didn't raise me - we didn't even have a real relationship until I was an adult and had a baby - but once we got to know one another, he was always right there. Getting to know him was always like coming home - and when he died a few years ago, Nathan and I lost such a valuable, important person in our lives.
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You might be liveing in the wrong place. It depends on where you live. I dont find to many in the the town here, but in Bloomington you meet them all the time... although that may be because your parents introduse you... or you meet the parents of your friends. hmm. I hold many of the same beliefs as hippys did/do, however the term usually refers to the spicific culture, in the spicific generation. Clasification as a hippy now means relitivly little. Our generation dosent really have a name... so I guess stick with it untill you can think of something that more accuretly describes you:)
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"Yuppie-tai-ai-oh, get a job, you old hippie, Trade your dungaree jacket for a suit and a tie; Yuppie-tai-ai-oh, get upwardly mobile, For the almighty dollar's gonna be your new high."
quote:This thread is making me think that I don't use my full fledged veganism as a source for absolute moral authority nearly often enough.
I should get on that.
Oh, don't do that! I was in a touring cello choir once that had two vegans. One of them was a live-and-let-live kind of person, but the other one...constantly lectured EVERYONE on what they were eating. I'd be sitting down to eat something, and she'd say, "Oh. My. GOD. Do you KNOW what's IN that? How can you POSSIBLY eat that? That's DISGUSTING!"
She would then proceed to expound on how she put nothing into her body that was bad for it...right before she went out and had a smoke. Posts: 4077 | Registered: Jun 2003
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Megan, We have lots of militant natural food eaters in this area as well. I am all for being as healthy as possible, but I would never bust in on someone's conversation about coffee to tell them that white coffee filters have dioxin in them, like my first physical therapist did.
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