I must tell you, as a screenwriter, death looks friggin' sweet from where I am sitting. I cannot think of an industry that has been more screwed and destroyed by the people who run it, and the people who pay money to purchase the produced products.
Fantastic Four was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I am madly in love with the physical form of Jessica Alba (her beauty alone could be used as one of the millions of Proofs of God), but after about five minutes this movie was total torture.
My FAVORITE worst moment of the MANY worst moments in this horrid, horrid, horrid movie was the "fight" between the Thing and Johnny Storm, as they fought in a CIRCLE OF PRODUCT PLACEMENT BILLBOARDS.
I rightly expected Wayne and Garth to walk by look at Jessica Alba and go "shhhhhwing!".
I read somewhere that 60 different products ponied up cash to have their crap associated with the fantastic four movie.
Jeeze. This is Modern American Capitalism.
I get commercials BEFORE the movie and DURING the movie.
Dr. Doom was a dork and a Joke, but I consider Ben Grimm/ the thing to be the TRUE villian of this film.
He was nothing but a whiny, whiny, whiny, whiner.
Oh man. This move was DREADFUL in so many ways. The Lataviean "Humanitarian of the year award" Dr. DOOM mask was icing on the cake.
So here we have another $200 million dollar American Turd.
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It doesn't look good to me. I won't be bothering to go see it.
My father has a theory that the more advertising yoiu see for a movie, the more likely it's garbage, because the producers know they won't have repeat business or much business after the word of mouth gets out, so they're counting on the opening weekend as their primary source of revenue. This movie is getting pushed so ridiculously that his thoughts ring kind of true to me.
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Worst movie of the year, though . . . . didn't The Grudge come out this year? That's one of the five worst movies of all time, for sure.
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Thor, I also said no one should care what I think about it either...
It was fair. Not great, not as good as most of the superhero movies have been, but it wasn't bad. I know a little bit about the history of the FF, and there WERE some mahor changes, but some of them were good. Some weren't, but I could see why they changed them. And some of the changes were simply real (well, sorta real ) events, but the timeline was really compressed.
I thought the Human Torch was perfect as a cocky, arrogant young kid. I thought he was one of the best things about it.
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Depends on whether you define bad as the worst entertainment experience or the worst in temrs of the constant barrage of advertisement for months and then sitting through a steaming pile poo that offers more adds than action or character and the only redeeming feature just happens to be able to turn *invisible*. I mean, that's just adding insult to injury here.
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Joe, I think The Grudge came out last year.
Personally, I lost all potential interest in The Fantastic Four when I heard that they were having to go back and revamp the movie after The Incredibles came out. If the ripoff cartoon (not that I didn't enjoy it) makes the "real" version look lame, what does that say?
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quote:Worst movie of the year, though . . . . didn't The Grudge come out this year? That's one of the five worst movies of all time, for sure.
You're kidding? Surely The Grudge was a perfect* movie.
*Perfect in the sense of "adequate for a given task." The Grudges' task was to make people go wee wee in their pants - and it did a fantastic job of that.
You seriously didn't enjoy it?
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Foust, I can't decide if it's number one or number two on my list. It certainly knocked Event Horizon off of the coveted "Worst Horror Movie Ever" spot.
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I thought Event Horizon had the same problem as The Mouth of Madness: They start out with a spooky mystery with a lot of unknowns, and then go methodically explain everything so by the end you just go "Oh, okay" and aren't scared at all.
I think anytime you say "worst movie ever" though you need some sort of * for "that actually had a decent budget" or "that I saw while it was in the theater" because there's thousands of crappy MST3k-level movies out there that are much, much worse.
Worst movie I saw in theaters: Mortal Kombat: Annihilation. Don't even ask. Worst movie I've seen that had an all-star cast: Ready to Wear (Pret a Porter).
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But I think the achievement of suckiness of a movie like Event Horizon or The Grudge or Kill Castro is more impressive because they had so much money behind them and so many people who should have known better involved.
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My sister loved it so I have resigned myself to loving it as well. It looks dreadful, but if she says it's good, it probably is.
I have a *diamonds in the rough* perspective when it comes to many movies.
Example off the top of my head? I think 'Wild Things' is a masterpiece. And I say that totally without irony. I love that movie, I think it's a genius-level movie.
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Worst movie I ever paid money to see in the theater: Ishtar.
And believe me, the original Fantastic Four movie (you can get it on video tape out there) is possibly the VERY worst superhero flick ever made.
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quote:Originally posted by Sopwith: Worst movie I ever paid money to see in the theater: Ishtar.
I dunno. I honestly think it's become chic to hate on Ishtar. 90% of the world hasn't seen it and hates it because it's ALWAYS talked about by everyone as being such a crappy movie. Yeah, it bombed at the box office. So what? Family Guy was cancelled because the critics (who are usually morons anyway) didn't like it, and then guess what. Highest selling DVD box sets of that year, and now Family Guy is back on Fox.
I used to hate it [Ishtar] until I actually watched it. There are some seriously quotable lines in the movie, as well as some really funny scenes. Yeah it's not 'Spies Like Us' or 'Three Amigos' good, but it's still a funny movie. If you didn't think the absurdness of the songs in the movie weren't sheer genius, then you probably don't have a properly working sense of humor.
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If it isn't one eights as good as the Incredibles was, it's not worth watching. Even if there are BABES.
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quote:and the only redeeming feature just happens to be able to turn *invisible*. I mean, that's just adding insult to injury here.
That made me laugh! It looks bad on so many levels. The commercials alone make me snicker.
Worst movie tho..could be, but I think it would take a truely exceptionally horrible movie that takes itself too seriously to sink lower then The Musketeer.
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How about the scene on the bridge where the Thing causes a 10 car pile-up ON A BRIDGE, and 3 minutes later his WIFE is there to throw her wedding ring in his face and leave?
That was really, really, really forced and stupid.
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afr, not necessarily . . . I think it had some really good redeeming qualities, but much of the first hour was slow. My kids were bored, which was a first for any movie, let alone a cartoon.
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I wasn't expecting a masterpiece, it's a comic book movie. Comic books aren't usually based in any sense of reality, or with any attention paid towards how real it would look to someone.
It is what it is, with flashy stuff.
I liked the flashy stuff.
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Movies like Toy Story I and II, Monsters Inc and Finding Nemo were so creative and inventive. This was Pixar at the top of their game. They just seemed like they'd let off a little with The Incredibles. It just didn't have that extra flair to it. It was so...formulaic.
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*didn't agree* It had great dialogue, and I loved the combination of superheroes and mondane things like capes and law suits and the themes about family.
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I don't think it was formulaic at all. I think it was very inventive. My problems with it are that it lagged in the first hour, and that it was really not a kids' movie, but it was marketed as if it were.
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The Incredibles was one of the best films of the past few years. Though the ending battle was weak, the rest of the film was top notch. The previews of FF was enough to turn my stomach, so that's a rental for me.
If you need a superhero flick, see Batman Begins.
Of course, I too like Three Amigos, so what do I know?
"Plethora? You say we have a plethora?"
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For reference, what other bad movies have you seen this year ?
Herbie : Fullly Loaded ? Sahara ? Miss Congeniallity 2 ? Son of Mask ? The Wedding Date ?
Fanatastic Four is exactly what I expected, althougth I really thought the Horatio Hornblower guy could act before this. My mistake.
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Fantastic Four had nothing on The Punisher. That was the absolute worst movie I have ever seen in my life.
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I actually mostly agree with the comment about the advertising being inversely proportional to the suckiness of a film. It usually is spot on, enough that it is a good guage for me.
Usually. I did love SW:Ep III despite all the ridiculous product tie-ins.
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I think it falls into last year, but "Sideways" move into my top 10 worst list.
Sometimes I get suckered into watching a movie that I haven't heard anything about from a real person because it gets so many great reviews. I'll end up renting it when I can't find anything else. These movies usually suck. They almost always are the Hollywood insiders stroking their egos. I would throw Sideways into this camp, although it at least had one or two scenes that made me laugh.
"The Royal Tenenbaums" falls into this also, but the winner of this category and maybe worst movie overall would have to be "Adaptation" with Nicolas Cage.
Of course cage has done many films that could go on the worst list. Like "Face Off" or "Con Air"
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If I do go see Fantastic Four I'll be buying another ticket for Batman Begins and theatre hopping. It just doesn't look good enough for me to want to throw ten dollars at Fox.
On a side note, The Incredibles, besides borrowing from F4, also took the whole "public cast out the superheroes" angle from The Watchmen. And, as Paramount has recently put the planned Watchmen movie into limbo, I presonally blame The Incredibles.
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I almost feel your pain, Thor, but then again, you sound like before this you might have taken American cinema seriously. So perhaps I shall have to pity you.
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Lyrhawn: And you were foolish enough to grab a credit card and a phone!
I didn't think it was that bad, but it certainly paled in comparison to the first one. Maybe if they hadn't changed the premise to "she just wants a mommy to love her," then it might have been good.
But I see that someone mentioned The Musketeer. Now that's real horror.
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