He hasn't told me anything more yet. If he pulls this one off, though, I'll be indebted to him forever! I'm already so appreciative of what he's trying to do.
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Oh I hope so much that he's able to change it! If not, would it be appropriate for you to pray about it and ask God what you should do?
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quote: Shani - I'm still working on the date issue, but it's starting to look like options to move the concert are narrowing. The problem is that it is so soon, and various calenders and pre-publicity have already been issued. Also - there are diary conflicts affecting every other possible day (opera the day before, fall break the day after, twelfth night performance on Tuesday etc etc), and the nearest available 'free' night is a whole week before, which WE wouldn't be ready for. I'm tearing what's left of my hair out about this, and I am devastated that you should be faced with such a conflict so early in your time here. The fact that we can survive without you is immaterial - you have worked very hard and very well this semester, and you add something distinct and beautiful to your end of the group. I am constantly aware of it!
Final decision must be made tomorrow. I look forward to exploring our options together after choir.
Have a good day.
Gabriel
*teary-eyed* That e-mail actually made me cry. I can't even tell him how appreciative I am of how hard he tried to fix the problem for me. What an incredible man!
I'll think about my decision, and let him know tomorrow, if I choose to sing or not.
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Wow, Gabriel seems really, really cool. That second email was certainly very professional and very understanding and the fact that hes' even willing to try and move it shows he's a pretty cool guy. You're lucky to have such an understanding and caring director. I'm glad it looks like things may work out for the best. Posts: 14428 | Registered: Aug 2001
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Even if you give up Yom Kippur, don't you people have some kind of Day of Atonement, so you can make amends.
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This reminds me of what Bob Hope said about the Academy Awards: "Or, as it's called at my house, Yom Kipppur."
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What about some kind of nutrition drink rather than eating. It would keep you from passing out and yet be no fun. Don't know what the rules are but this might be a possible compromise.
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Nothing passes the lips, not a sip of water, not a toothbrush. You can't even rinse the disgusting morning taste from your mouth.
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If you’re on medication, you may take it if your life depends on it: diabetic pills, nitroglycerin drops, seizure suppressants or other serious stuff like that. Take it without any water unless you absolutely, totally cannot; in that case, take it with one (1) teaspoonful of water. Standard antibiotics—and over-the-counter vitamins—can easily be skipped for a day.
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Thought it might be a better option than skipping the fast altogether if she was leaning that way. Oh well.
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quote:Standard antibiotics—and over-the-counter vitamins—can easily be skipped for a day.
Wouldn't that cause the treatment to be less effective and lead to more antibiotic-resistant bacteria?
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That is wrong, if you don't complete the treatment cycle the infection can come back worse than ever. It is a very bad thing to do.
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One: they're not talking about stopping it early. They're talking about skipping a day and then continuing for an extra day. I actually checked that out with my pediatrician (for an unrelated reason) and was told it was fine.
Two: many rabbis will disagree with Rabbi Hecht, and allow someone to take an antibiotic on Yom Kippur. (There is in fact a question whether swallowing less than about 1.5 ounces counts as violating a fast.)
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That doesn't mean you won't complete the cycle. It just means you prolong it by one day. I don't think it will be affected that much but I am sure someone will proove me wrong. Just lay off!
Raia, it certainly sounds like he will check next time so pray and do what your heart tells you. Good luck!
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Is that directed at me? I was just asking a question, and rivka has answered it for me. I didn't know whether it was okay or not to skip a day of treatment, and I didn't realize it meant continuing for an extra day. Now I know.
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Raia, having apologized for his initial response and then acknowleded how important this holy day is for you, I imagine that your choir director would respect you even more if you were to observe the fast and refrain from singing at this concert. I presume there will be several other concerts this school year? Whatever you decide, all the best to you!
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I'm voting for fasting and singing both. I think your fasting voice will be powerful and pure. (Not that you're asking for a vote, of course.)
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By the way, Dobbie's crack made me laugh out loud. I know it was irreverent but it was way funny.
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quote:Originally posted by Tatiana: I'm voting for fasting and singing both. I think your fasting voice will be powerful and pure. (Not that you're asking for a vote, of course.)
Based on what, exactly? Raia has already stated that she has come close to fainting when she was simply slightly dehydrated.
Yom Kippur starts the night before. She will have been fasting for about 18 hours or so -- no food, no water, no nothin' -- at the time of the concert.
Pure her voice might be, but I have doubts about powerful. And really serious doubts about her not collapsing.
(((((Raia))))) It's a difficult situation, and I am glad your director is being understanding.
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I'm going to go talk to him about it today. We'll "explore our options together," as he said in the e-mail. But I think I'm leaning towards skipping the fast and singing in this concert. That's also very important to me, and I know it's important to him as well. I haven't fully decided, but I've given this matter a great deal of thought, and I think that I can do that.
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quote:Originally posted by Uprooted: Raia, having apologized for his initial response and then acknowleded how important this holy day is for you, I imagine that your choir director would respect you even more if you were to observe the fast and refrain from singing at this concert. I presume there will be several other concerts this school year? Whatever you decide, all the best to you!
Quoted just to reiterate what uprooted said. I hope your meeting goes well.
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Ronnie I apologize. I didn't mean to be so flippant. You were just asking a question. Sorry for my rudeness.
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I do think that if fasting to you is worth inconveniencing everyone two weeks before the concert, it should be worth skipping the concert. Otherwise, it's like asking that they be more observant of your religion than you are.
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I just met up with him after choir rehearsal. He almost made me cry again, when he said "you have no idea how emotional it was, watching you sing and not having any idea if you'd get to perform, because of something that's not your fault." But I told him that I think I'm leaning towards performing, rather than not. He said that of course he'd be thrilled, but that I can take more time to think about it... now that he doesn't have to move the date, there's no pressing time limit. He also asked me for my parents' address because he wanted to write them a personal letter of apology.
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Wow. He sounds like a class act. Plus, I bet they will ALL be more careful when planning these things from now on. Posts: 9293 | Registered: Aug 2000
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Raia, Don't dismiss the possibility of both fasting and singing even if you have had difficulties with fasting in the past. I, like many of the religious people here, have done many 24 hour fasts without food or water. Sometimes when I fast, I feel very week and hungry, but I have found that when I fast with pure intent and fill my day with prayer instead of food that I can fast for 24 hours without feeling week or hungry. My husband usually has migraine headaches when he goes without eating, but recently he had a powerful reason to fast and was able to do it without problems. I'm sure that many others here could tell you of similar experiences. It is possible that with God's help you could fast and still sing with a pure.
Kat has an important point. Unfortunately, you have been placed in a place where you must decide which is more important to you, singing or being Jewish. Recognize that what ever you do it will set a precident for your future. If you choose to sing, you are telling your choir director and all those involved that Yom Kippur, the most important Jewish Holy Day, is less important to you than the choir. If you make this compromise of your faith, you will be asked to make others and each one will be easier than the last. Eventually, you will be left with no faith at all.
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I don't think the last of Rabbit's post will come true, but I do think you will be saying that Yom Kippur is worth inconveniencing them, but not worth inconveniencing you.
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I've had the exact same experience The Rabbit describes. If I fast with good motive and real intent, then I am strengthened and not weakened by the fast.
I agree as well that every time you make the choice not to observe, it weakens your faith, and makes the next time that much easier. Every time you make a hard choice toward being observant, it strengthens your faith, and you are greatly blessed.
Please don't take any of these comments as pressure. Of course it is your decision and yours alone, and nobody else even has a right to an opinion about it. But those of us who have made hard decisions in favor of observance, and been greatly blessed by it, want to share that experience with you. We would like to see you blessed as well.
quote:Originally posted by Tatiana: But those of us who have made hard decisions in favor of observance, and been greatly blessed by it, want to share that experience with you. We would like to see you blessed as well.
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I decided to sing. It basically came down to evaluating which I'd regret more... fasting, and not singing, or singing, and not regarding Yom Kippur as the important day that it is.
I decided I'd regret it more if I didn't sing.
Thank you all for your help, though!
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