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Get togethers, we gather in person, and hang out being nerdy. Ask more questions, get more answers.
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Hatrackers organize them, there have been several in your area, we had a campout in Bloomington IN, I think there have been a few in OH too. Just read the board. But I think the biggest issue you would have, several of our board members that organize things are teachers or other public members, that really can't spend time with minors (I'm not explaining this well, sorry).
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Well, you could always organize one yourself.
Otherwise, just volunteer to show up at one someone else is organizing, if it's feasible for you to do so.
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quote:But I think the biggest issue you would have, several of our board members that organize things are teachers or other public members, that really can't spend time with minors
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*laugh* We've had more than a few minors show up for clumps, cons, fests, etc. But, yeah, usually it's best if children attend in the company of their parents.
If you're in Ohio, Tinros, you're very close to a number of members who regularly gather, and at least one annual gathering for Ornery regulars.
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With the world being what it is today, many adults here at Hatrack would not be comfortable with meeting up with those under 18 without parents or guardians of said young adults present. In part it's about avoiding even the appearance of impropriety, but in part (at least, for me) it's about not encouraging patterns of behavior that may be dangerous in general, even if we're sure it's fine in this particular case.
That is, it's similar to why I don't "make friends" with small children I don't know unless I go through their parents, first. If a child runs up to me on the playground, I tell them "we need to find your mommy or daddy right away." If a child is crying in a public place (like a movie or airport), if it seems like it would be helpful, I offer a McDonald's toy (still wrapped) to the parent.* I don't want to encourage behavior that might otherwise (not with me, of course! but potentially with someone else) put a minor at risk. Being too trusting can, unfortunately, put one at risk, especially when one is in a vulnerable position. That includes being of young age.
*[I often carry these around just in case.]
In general, it's best for those under 18 not to be involved in such gatherings without their parents present. IMHO. And even though I'm sure they would be perfectly safe at any Hatrack gathering.
Many adults also won't drink with or near anyone who is not of age, even if the minors aren't themselves drinking. Same reasons.
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I knew minors did go to events, but I also knew it would be best to explain this to her. And CT explained it much better than I could.
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breyerchic, I'm still editing to try to make it come out right! It seems so persnickety, but I can really see the sense in it.
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CT, I understand what you guys are saying now. Out of curiousity, how would you feel about a minor whose parent spoke to the organizer of the event but did not attend? I think that would help remove the appearance of impropriety.
I'm also curious, are legal ramifications an important concern for you since the cut off age is 18?
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Amanecer, I think it varies from person to person. I would probably make that decision on a case-by-case basis, myself. (I know, not very helpful. *rueful look)
In general, I'd err on the side of being protective of my friends. After all, not getting together in person is really a small thing, and time will take care of that. I expect this general group of people will be around for a long while. *smile
And yes, legality is an issue for some of us, me included. It makes us additionally concerned, but the basic caring and concern is still there.
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The whole "teachers with minors" thing refers to the extended trust society places in some people, along with a corresponding increase in the responsibility to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Because teachers (and some other persons) are in a position where they interact with and are responsible for young persons, then it is even more important that they take care. I'm not a teacher, but I am in a similar position, and I'd feel wretched if something I did made a parent fear for the safety of his or her children, or if I in any way aided a young person in making an unwise decision.
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quote:The whole "teachers with minors" thing refers to the extended trust society places in some people, along with a corresponding increase in the responsibility to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Because teachers (and some other persons) are in a position where they interact with and are responsible for young persons, then it is even more important that they take care. I'm not a teacher, but I am in a similar position, and I'd feel wretched if something I did made a parent fear for the safety of his or her children, or if I in any way aided a young person in making an unwise decision.
That was well explained (along with your other post).
Anyone wanna gather in the Pac NW? Are there even enough of you here?
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Well, I'm near the Pacific. And I'm northwest of most of you. But no, I'm not close enough to get together with anyone. *grumble*
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CT, thank you for your explanation. It's sad that we have to be so mistrustful, but I suppose it's a necessary evil.
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I wish it weren't so. We can, however, do everything in our power to be kind to and take care of one another, even if that means not having as much fun as we might otherwise. The caring and the kindness for people who are trying their best (both young and old, all of us) is a wonderfully important part of Hatrack, too.
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I'm okay with hanging out with minors-- if their parents have met me first and are comfortable with it.
That's what the rule was when I was growing up, that's what it will be with our kids, and so I extend that same courtesy to the parents of other children.
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quote:Originally posted by breyerchic04: what's wrong tante?
Now, I don't mind a good debate, and I like when things get a bit intellectual, but this "n00b" vs. "noob" vs. "newb" vs. "newbie" is just a little too for me.
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Well, seeing as I'll be far too busy to do ANYTHING away from home for the next few months, and I turn 18 in May, the whole underage thing shouldn't be a big deal. Plus, as my parents are probably getting divorced sometime this summer, I'll be living on my own and they won't be in the picture. Sorry to make moot(is that a verb? "to make moot?") 20 something replies.
BTW, I never thought I would get this many replies to a stupid question like this.
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so now you just have to watch the board, and see what's going on, you're welcome in our clump, but I think we're about 3 hours away (you're in cincy right, or even further?)
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I'm about an hour north of cincy- closer to dayton than cincy, actually. But I know someone(I think it's Noemon) lives in Dayton, so maybe we'll just have to organize a midwest gathering.
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Of course, breyerchic, I could always use the excuse of going to watch BOA grand nationals in Indy, being a music ed major. Then I could take a few extra days and see who all is over in Indiana.
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Dude, if there's one near Chicago, I'd take a week off and go to that! We went to Chicago in 8th grade and I LOVED it!
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Ok, next november I'll be about an hour north instead of an hour south of Indy, but still would love to meet you.
There was a huge (50 people) con/fest near Chicago (skokie?) in the summer of 04, sadly I didn't get to go, I was at leadership conference.
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"to make" is a verb. "moot" is a noun, which I think in this case is used as an object. But not real sure about that.
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quote:Originally posted by ClaudiaTherese: With the world being what it is today, many adults here at Hatrack would not be comfortable with meeting up with those under 18 without parents or guardians of said young adults present. In part it's about avoiding even the appearance of impropriety, but in part (at least, for me) it's about not encouraging patterns of behavior that may be dangerous in general, even if we're sure it's fine in this particular case.
That is, it's similar to why I don't "make friends" with small children I don't know unless I go through their parents, first. If a child runs up to me on the playground, I tell them "we need to find your mommy or daddy right away." If a child is crying in a public place (like a movie or airport), if it seems like it would be helpful, I offer a McDonald's toy (still wrapped) to the parent.* I don't want to encourage behavior that might otherwise (not with me, of course! but potentially with someone else) put a minor at risk. Being too trusting can, unfortunately, put one at risk, especially when one is in a vulnerable position. That includes being of young age.
*[I often carry these around just in case.]
In general, it's best for those under 18 not to be involved in such gatherings without their parents present. IMHO. And even though I'm sure they would be perfectly safe at any Hatrack gathering.
Many adults also won't drink with or near anyone who is not of age, even if the minors aren't themselves drinking. Same reasons.
This coming from the woman who walked off with each of the children at CarrieCon at various points in the weekend LOL.
BTW, I'm suffering serious bacon cheddar speread cravings. I think the Goodlets and I will be hitting the road to head your way when Farmer's Markets start up again!
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quote:This coming from the woman who walked off with each of the children at CarrieCon at various points in the weekend LOL.
Yeah, well, the parents were there. *grin
Parents in control --> makes it okay.
quote:BTW, I'm suffering serious bacon cheddar speread cravings. I think the Goodlets and I will be hitting the road to head your way when Farmer's Markets start up again!
Sweet! Or rather, salty. Posts: 14017 | Registered: May 2000
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Yeah, english isn't one of my strong points. But it didn't look like anyone was gonna answer the question and I knew someone would correct me if/when I was wrong.
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Breyerchic, I'll have to see what my schedule looks like, and I won't have a car at college(freshmen aren't allowed to have cars, but my sister will be a junior, so I could have her take me home friday morning, then head straight to Indy). I'm going to try to arrange my schedule so I don't have classes on Friday(gotta love that Honors priority scheduling ), seeing as my sister won't have classes on Friday. Probably. Eh, it all depends. But I'd really love to see if we could work something out. Or maybe I could take a week long trip during winter break or spring break and enjoy the GameWorks in the Indy mall. Posts: 1591 | Registered: Jul 2005
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