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ketchupqueen
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Nope, it's just the wurst. [Razz]

I didn't say it was authoritative. I said it was done around here. [Smile]

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(Except, of course, the wurst at the local German butcher shop, which is next to the German bakery, both owned by a real live German. The brats at the deli there are grilled, not beered. And served with a lump of bread and some kraut. And heavenly.)
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I realize that CT was making a pun, but I just have to put in a pitch for Top Dog. The Bay Area is by no means a sausage mecca (and what is up with all the sausages with mango and the like in them? That's one part of California cuisine, I don't get -- mixing meat and fruit [I will sometimes make an exception for apples]), but Top Dog is awesome. The calabrese is to die for.
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Of course, I've met Saints from Japan who drink green tea.
Then they're willfully flouting, because green tea (nihoncha, matcha etc.) is specifically prohibited by the church.
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And hi, Zal! I checkd out the new motley vision... spiffy!
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I know, Annie, but some of them came to America and were told by American Saints that green tea is okay, so that's what they think.

I've always understood it to mean any product of the tea plant.

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(There was a Mormon family on Take Home Chef the other day and whatever his name is, the cook dude, made green tea ice cream for dessert. The woman thought that was fine. Didn't know any better, obviously. Made me want to write a clarifying e-mail to him about the Word of Wisdom, but I haven't got to it.)
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You've always understood correctly.

Funny story:
Lunch with Sachiko at a restaurant with us and the elders. Sachiko asks, "Oolong tea? Is oolong ok for you to drink?"

Me: "Nope, sorry. Not Oolong either."

Sachiko: "Maybe I'll call and ask permission from President Hinckley. 'Just for one day,is coffee and tea OK?' It's delicious, you know."

Me: "How about asking God?"

Sachiko: nods with a wry smile

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Thanks, Annie. It will soon be spiffier. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Annie:
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Of course, I've met Saints from Japan who drink green tea.
Then they're willfully flouting, because green tea (nihoncha, matcha etc.) is specifically prohibited by the church.
Curious. In the german missionary discussion it was always clearly stated that "black tea" was prohibited but no mention was made of "green tea". A friend of mine who served in Korea said that tea was never a problem there because the green tea commonly consummed in Korea was not forbidden by the Word of Wisdom. I think this is another case of a gray area and not an example of willful flouting.
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Maybe the definition has become more clear-cut in recent years. General authorities in Japan have specified that anything made of the tea leaf is tea.

Green tea is tea - it's naturally caffeinated. The only difference between green tea and black tea is that the black tea has been fermented.

I'm guessing any ambiguities in the past came from the fact that American church officials weren't aware of the huge variations on "tea" that existed in the orient.

There are many "teas" in Japan, however, that members drink: mugi cha (made of barley), ten cha (Yamamoto sweet tea), juuroku cha, ruibos ti (some South African something - tasty!)

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quote:
(some South African something - tasty!)
Is that bush tea? My mom loves bush tea, you can get it in the U.S. This stuff.
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Yeah! That's it! Oishii yo.
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You can buy it at most grocery stores around here. [Smile]
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I've never heard that called bush tea. Just red tea or rooibos (which I had no idea meant anything other than "red") tea. Either way it's lovely.
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I had never heard of it, period, until my mom started reading the No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency novels and passing them on to me. [Big Grin]
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I finally got around to posting my Cioppino recipe.

It's not a quick or easy meal, but it's delicious - it got rave reviews from all 6 of us at the dinner.

This is based on three different recipes from the Food Network site plus quite a bit of my own ad-libbing. Fortunately I took careful notes. The recipe begs for improvisation during cooking.

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