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Don't underestimate the effectiveness of the shibboleth, Primal Curve. Trained operatives can detect an American "eh?" from across a crowded hockey arena.
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Well, if Canada does attack the US, and Blayne is in its military forces, that neatly resolves the China issue in TWBW with no hurt feelings. So: Go, Blayne!
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Our Rangers/Delta Force are analogous to Boy Scouts, and Seals/Marines are like the cops and National Guard. But hey we are proud of your efforts to assist our armed forces with the cookies they love eating.
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You know, people, those of us who don't choose to run our economies into the ground to support a vast conquest machine can still be quite proud of the armies we do have, and in particular of the achievement it is to pass the physicals of an all-volunteer military. I do not see what Blayne said in this thread that should open him up for this kind of mockery of his nation.
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quote:Originally posted by King of Men: You know, people, those of us who don't choose to run our economies into the ground to support a vast conquest machine can still be quite proud of the armies we do have, and in particular of the achievement it is to pass the physicals of an all-volunteer military. I do not see what Blayne said in this thread that should open him up for this kind of mockery of his nation.
You can hardly call it a vast conquest machine, seeing as how we don't actually annex anything nowadays. I guess that makes us just silly for dumping out money to fight wars that are not over resources.
Also you should realize that Americans and Canandians have made it a pasttime to heckle each other. I am genuinely impressed that Blayne so far is doing well in filling his conscription. But no matter how awesome he gets, even if he makes a career out of being some sort of uber Canadian soldier, he will still get heckled by the most backward bucktoothed hillbilly American for being Canadian. He might as well join the fray and come up with some clever punches he can pull at a moments notice.
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I actually think, on this forum, at least, the heckling is usually very one-sided, and reflects poorly on us. When you're undisputedly the strongest kid on the block, it's rather gauche to make fun of other people being weaker.
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We don't have to, the fact that a bunch of drunk Newfies, made it to Washington DC, got further drunk off your beer, ate the food, got sick from it and and managed somehow in this time to burn down your white house and manage to come back to Canada to sleep over their hang over speaks all for itself.
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Running our economy into the ground, KoM? I know it fell a bit today, but I believe the Dow Jones has been running at all time highs for the last several weeks, and that our unemployment rate is quite lower than it is wherever you live. But I guess the facts don't matter when it comes to bashing the Evil Bushies.
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: We don't have to, the fact that a bunch of drunk Newfies, made it to Washington DC, got further drunk off your beer, ate the food, got sick from it and and managed somehow in this time to burn down your white house and manage to come back to Canada to sleep over their hang over speaks all for itself.
Do you see Americans taking credit for beating the French during the 7 years war? Seems it was more Britishness then Canadianess that accomplished the feat you cited in 1814. In anycase thanks for giving us Oregon virtually for free, clearly your sovereignty is held dear to your hearts. Posts: 14316 | Registered: Jul 2005
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I love Canadians. But they're such easy targets is hard not to take a shot sometimes.
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Resh, take off your shirt somewhere private and look for the "Made in China" sticker and can you honestly really say that your economy is perfectly healthy?
Also BB that was when England was in control of our foreign policy, once we kicked some Kraut ass in WWI and outperformed everyone pound for pound and supplied 1 out of every 3 shells used on the western front I think we earned the respect for the world.
Also we don't routinely blow up our allies.
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quote:Also BB that was when England was in control of our foreign policy, once we kicked some Kraut ass in WWI and outperformed everyone pound for pound and supplied 1 out of every 3 shells used on the western front I think we earned the respect for the world.
Might I remind YOU bb that you held that record while America was not militarily involved in WWI.
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Remember you didnt enter the war until late so negative browny points. And Canadians still outperformed you.
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quote:Originally posted by ElJay: I actually think, on this forum, at least, the heckling is usually very one-sided, and reflects poorly on us. When you're undisputedly the strongest kid on the block, it's rather gauche to make fun of other people being weaker.
I know. *quietly
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Edited to add: I'd like to be classy, and I'd like to think my fellow citizens are, as well. It would make -- in my eyes -- for a better nation.
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quote:Also BB that was when England was in control of our foreign policy, once we kicked some Kraut ass in WWI and outperformed everyone pound for pound and supplied 1 out of every 3 shells used on the western front I think we earned the respect for the world.
Might I remind YOU bb that you held that record while America was not militarily involved in WWI.
Who do you think provided the other 2 out of 3 shells?
As it happens, it was the United Kingdom. And when the US entered, it did so using guns made by British factories, firing shells made by the French. Now the Second World War is something else again, but in the Great War you were not only late to the party, you didn't have any clothes on when you got there.
Ah yes, here we are. From Lloyd George's "War Memoirs":
quote:When the Armistice was signed on November 11th, half the aeroplanes used by the Americans were of French and British make (...) The light and medium artillery used up to the end of the War by the American Army was supplied by the French. The heaviest artillery was supplied by the British. No field guns of American pattern or manufacture fired a shot in the War.
I'm wondering what your navy plans to do when all the sea ice is gone from the Arctic, and Canada starts trying to make a play for the resources that lie up there. The only countries with a strong territorial claim will be you guys, Russia, maybe America because of Alaksa, and the Scandinavian countries. Thing is though, only Russia will have the power to assert their claims, and that's with a broken down rusted out Navy.
You won't even be able to enforce the soon to be available Northwest Passage. And I wonder when it comes time to do all that, who you'll ask for support from. Is it the nation that protects the waterways of the world and makes free right of passage a reality for everyone? Or is it your Navy, which could probably be defeated by our Coast Guard?
And what percentage of your imports come from America? I'm pretty sure it's at least 50%. Your economy is tied quite powerfully to our own, so you really shouldn't be trumpeting our downfall. Besides, if anyone actually did try to invade you, which isn't out of the question considering Canada's open space and resources, who do you think would defend you from a serious opponent? Ninja beavers and moose commandos?
I don't mind the friendly sparring. But sometimes it sounds like at the end of the day, some Canadians don't realize that if you were ever seriously in trouble, there'd be no nation on Earth that would jump faster to help you than us, even Britain and Australia.
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I can understand the frustration at some of the responses from Canadians here, Lyrhawn. I do think they were provoked, though -- e.g., twinky was posing a link to a military tribute, including the coffins of dead Canadian soldiers. I think continuing to jab about little kids' organizations is similar to pulling the "your mama" jokes when the mama is, well, dead.
quote:I don't mind the friendly sparring. But sometimes it sounds like at the end of the day, some Canadians don't realize that if you were ever seriously in trouble, there'd be no nation on Earth that would jump faster to help you than us, even Britain and Australia.
This is an important and relevant political fact. Also, it being true shouldn't entail other countries having to grovel, having to swallow continued indignity and ask for more.
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: Resh, take off your shirt somewhere private and look for the "Made in China" sticker and can you honestly really say that your economy is perfectly healthy?
I just wanted to make it clear that I never said I thought our economy was perfect. Just that it's not exactly being run into the ground by the war. Whatever stumbles it takes are most likely due to the Democratic policy of giving money away to people who have done nothing to deserve it except be ungrateful losers. [/class]
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And nothing to do with the Republicans spending money we don't have for the last seven years? And then following that up by giving huge giveaways to oil companies that are raking in record profits, and to rich campaign donors?
Yeah, those stupid Democrats trying to help out poor people, they should get with it and join the Republicans in helping out the people who REALLY need it; the uberwealthy.
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Yes, Lyrhawn, that was directed at you. What you posted was the exact kind of crap I was talking about with this post:
quote:I actually think, on this forum, at least, the heckling is usually very one-sided, and reflects poorly on us. When you're undisputedly the strongest kid on the block, it's rather gauche to make fun of other people being weaker.
Leaving aside dubious accuracy of your post, the jabs about trojan moose and ninja beavers are not what I'd call classy. Nor is the "rubbing their noses in it" tone of your comments about their navy.
The only Canadian in this thread who's made aggrandizing comments is Blayne. And I would think that he's shown that he makes aggrandizing comments about everything, and should no more be considered representative of Canadians than he should be of men in their early 20s. Whereas many Americans have been acting like horse's rear ends.
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Well, I've already earned the title, might as well take it out for a spin.
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quote:Originally posted by Reshpeckobiggle: CT= class. That's a fact.
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: Resh, take off your shirt somewhere private and look for the "Made in China" sticker and can you honestly really say that your economy is perfectly healthy?
I just wanted to make it clear that I never said I thought our economy was perfect. Just that it's not exactly being run into the ground by the war. Whatever stumbles it takes are most likely due to the Democratic policy of giving money away to people who have done nothing to deserve it except be ungrateful losers. [/class]
So you support the continued polarization of your country between rich and poor? I think the amount of money spent on armaments vastly outweighs the pocket money reluctantly given to the nations poor.
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quote:Also we don't routinely blow up our allies.
What would you blow them up with? A Trojan Moose?
I'm wondering what your navy plans to do when all the sea ice is gone from the Arctic, and Canada starts trying to make a play for the resources that lie up there. The only countries with a strong territorial claim will be you guys, Russia, maybe America because of Alaksa, and the Scandinavian countries. Thing is though, only Russia will have the power to assert their claims, and that's with a broken down rusted out Navy.
You won't even be able to enforce the soon to be available Northwest Passage. And I wonder when it comes time to do all that, who you'll ask for support from. Is it the nation that protects the waterways of the world and makes free right of passage a reality for everyone? Or is it your Navy, which could probably be defeated by our Coast Guard?
And what percentage of your imports come from America? I'm pretty sure it's at least 50%. Your economy is tied quite powerfully to our own, so you really shouldn't be trumpeting our downfall. Besides, if anyone actually did try to invade you, which isn't out of the question considering Canada's open space and resources, who do you think would defend you from a serious opponent? Ninja beavers and moose commandos?
I don't mind the friendly sparring. But sometimes it sounds like at the end of the day, some Canadians don't realize that if you were ever seriously in trouble, there'd be no nation on Earth that would jump faster to help you than us, even Britain and Australia.
Firstly unlike some nations showing off their epeens we dont need to spent ridiculas amounts of money on our military 60 planes will do.
Next I don't think the Russian navy given recent years is rusted anymore, and next the Canadian navy is highly efficient and possesses AEGIS cruisers and missile frigates.
And frankly i think whether we like it or not the US navy would be in the northwest passage.
Next, don't diss our ninja beavers they build dams.
Next, Canada's land is mostly permafrost, its like china tyring to invade siberia who the heck wants permafrost? You can settle people there and the mineral wealths requires a huge investment.
Also the American relative decline as a hyperpower doesnt mean you wont be economically a powerful force, I highly doubt US-Canada trade will change much except maybe the reforming of NAFTA so we dont get screwed out of our fresh water or billions on softwood lumber.
Its hard to tell how fats you will jump given how a very vocal minority of politicians seem to be in favour of simply annexing us.
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I think you misunderstand me. It's not a question of a target. It's a question of me seeing fellow Americans acting in a way that I think is shameful to our country. I'm not just talking about you, I made my first post stating my disapproval before you ever posted in the thread. I think posts lording up America and disparaging other countries are tacky. It's particularly tacky to compare our military to that of a country that has one tenth our population. I deal with that by pointing it out, because I think it is beneath us as Americans and beneath our national honor.
Yes, there's plenty of other things going on in the country that I also think are beneath our national honor, but most of those are a lot harder to address directly than people coming into what is supposed to be a celebration thread by someone who made it into his country's miliatry after at least a year of working to pass the physical fitness test and ripping on said military. How would you like it if someone came to your graduation party and told you how much your school sucked?
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Redirect your ire then. You're the one that singled me out, and I probably would have been nicer about it if I hadn't already been in a pretty crappy mood, but I was, and I am. I wasn't making him gravel beneath a greater power, I know exactly what CT was talking about. I don't want anyone to kowtow, nor did I make anyone in this thread do it, or ask for it.
My reminder to Canadians who might not know it, is that despite the bad deal Americans get when it comes to publicity, and despite all the crap WE take from the holier than thou citizens of some countries (eg, some people in this very thread), we're still going to be there for them at the end of the day. But hey, if that's the kind of thing you don't want Americans talking about, I'll start clamoring for them to defend themselves and to hell with it.
So long as both sides know the other is joking, I think the traditional ribbing Canadians and Americans give each other is perfectly fine, even fun for both sides. And you apparently don't know me that well or you'd have heard the speech I give people when they rip on France, including dozens of times on Hatrack alone. That's also why I specifically ended my post making sure that we all knew we were kidding, and that at the end of the day, there's no animosity, we've got your back.
So kindly back the frick off.
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quote:Originally posted by ElJay: ... people coming into what is supposed to be a celebration thread by someone who made it into his country's miliatry after at least a year of working to pass the physical fitness test and ripping on said military. How would you like it if someone came to your graduation party and told you how much your school sucked?
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