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GForce
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I just rewatched X-Men: The Last Stand. I can't say that it's a good movie, because it isn't and I strongly disagree with several choices the director made. I heard an interview with the writers and they strongly asserted that it wasn't their fault. Anyway, I still found it pretty entertaining, if not very stimulating on a deeper level.

To my point. I've been reading "Astonishing X-Men" by Joss Whedon, and there are some similarities between it and the "Last Stand" story. Anybody know if Whedon was involved in the story process?

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I don't think so, but IIRC, Joss's knowledge of the franchise primarily comes from the movies, not from having read the comics.
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The Whedon comic came out in 2004, 2 years before the movie. In the comic, a cure is developed, and the scientist's name who makes it is Dr. Kavita Rao, who is also in the movie (minor character). Basically the similarities stop there, but I just thought maybe he had been consulted.
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Joss has been open that yes, parts of his first arc on Astonishing were "borrowed" for X-3. However, as with most work-for-hire writing, that's where his involvement begins and ends.
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
I don't think so, but IIRC, Joss's knowledge of the franchise primarily comes from the movies, not from having read the comics.

Joss is on the record as being a huge fan of the original Claremont run. Hence his heavy use of Kitty Pryde and certain other "trademarks" of that era. [Smile]
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Now that I think about it more, I think I read that about whoever it was that started writing Ultimate X-Men.

It just doesn't make any sense for Astonishing X-Men.

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I believe Joss read and enjoyed the X-Men the same years I did, from the beginning of the new X-Men to roughly #170-something. Which is probably why I enjoyed his own run so much. It was like, "That's why I used to read it!"
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quote:
Originally posted by GForce:
The Whedon comic came out in 2004, 2 years before the movie. In the comic, a cure is developed, and the scientist's name who makes it is Dr. Kavita Rao, who is also in the movie (minor character). Basically the similarities stop there, but I just thought maybe he had been consulted.

Even the 90s X-men animated series had a brief arc about a supposed cure for mutants. I think it's a fairly obvious story avenue to explore in the X-men universe.

I didn't think X3 was bad, but the way. But then, I'm easily pleased.

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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Bridges:
Which is probably why I enjoyed his own run so much.

Well, technically his run isn't over -yet-...though sometimes I wish it was. The pseudo-Hellfire Club arc and the current Colossus/Breakworld story seem to be missing the spark and enthusiasm that infused his earlier stories.
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I checked the first issues of Astonishing out alongside of Millar's Return of Magneto in Ultimate. It was interesting to compare the writing style.

Whedon is a superior writer in every way.

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I just finished reading the "Unstoppable" TPB, the last one in Whedon's run, and I think this is my favorite 25-issue run of the X-Men ever. Cassaday's art, while not my favorite overall, goes perfectly with Whedon's dialog.

Good story, and probably the best overall use of Kitty Pryde's powers over a consistent run.

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I'm fluffy movie watcher extraordinaire (how do you spell that word?). I enjoy almost everything and I've never read a comic book in my life. I really disliked X-3, for what it's worth.

Didn't I read somewhere that Joss had huge ideas for one of the three X-Men movies that they turned down? I may be confusing this with something else...

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Yeah, his ending was quite good. Once collected, the latter half of his run reads much better as a trade than it did as a serial.
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