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I need help with this one, youngsters. Apparently it is some emo thing(and I am not even really sure what emo is) Boys at our school are changing into too-small pants of their girl friends.
Has anyone else seen this? My daughter informs me it is also a "skater" thing, and I don;t mean Kristi Yamaguchi.
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I've heard of this for emos but not for skaters. In my experience, skaters always wore lose clothing to allow free movement of their limbs.
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It's hardly a new fashion...boys have been doing this for years. I think it started because members of bands like Fallout Boy and The Academy Is started doing it. I think it looks silly.
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Most of the boys I have known who wore girls pants, didn't have girlfriends. And i've mostly seen it in the 13-16 age bracket.
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Yeah, it's at least 5 years old. But it is an emo thing, and a skater thing sometimes too. I think it started cause of the bands too.
Here's what wiki says... The term "emo" is sometimes stereotyped with tight jeans on males and females alike, long fringe (bangs) brushed to one side of the face or over one or both eyes, dyed black, straight hair, tight t-shirts (sometimes with short-sleves) which often bear the names of rock bands (or other designed shirts), studded belts, belt buckles, canvas sneakers or skate shoes or other black shoes (often old and beaten up) and thick, black horn-rimmed glasses.
I've had guy friends where my pants back 5 years ago when it all started. But I will agree it is quite silly. I even thought so then.
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Is there anything less attractive than skin tight jeans on a really skinny teenage boy with bad posture?
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The ones that make the majority of people their age make fun of them. Some are legitimately emotionally challenged, and most people actually feel sorry for those people. Most emos are just following a fad, though.
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wearing tight pants is for (in my eperiences) A effeminate males B guys who are not effeminate and just want to seem cool even tough it probably isnt working C girls who think it makes them look popular D nonconformists - emos, skaters, punks, , etcetera E guys who are allready cool and know they could wear anything, so why not?
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I've on occasion worn girl pants. As a rule I wear guy pants, but on informal occasions I'll throw them on because they're pretty comfty and look good on me. My only complaint would be the tiny pockets combined with the lack of a purse. I suppose that'd put me into A or B though I'm not sure which. Maybe E but that's probably dreaming.
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quote:Originally posted by scifibum: Is there anything less attractive than skin tight jeans on a really skinny teenage boy with bad posture?
Yes! Really baggy falling down pants that hang six inches below the underway, on just about any body.
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quote:Originally posted by LargeTuna: wearing tight pants is for (in my eperiences) A effeminate males B guys who are not effeminate and just want to seem cool even tough it probably isnt working C girls who think it makes them look popular D nonconformists - emos, skaters, punks, , etcetera E guys who are allready cool and know they could wear anything, so why not?
F guys who got dressed really fast because a cop was knocking on the car door.
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G Wannabe cowboy types (though the tight pants they wear are quite different from the girls' pants that the emo types wear).
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Should I point out that this has been around since the 90's? If not before.
Well, the too-tight jean thing. The guys wearing girl jeans has been for several years.
I did it once, and got more compliments than I was comfortable with. So I didn't. I was a size 4, btw. Posts: 349 | Registered: Oct 2007
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H. Guys built like models who can totally pull it off and look hot. (My husband looks good in things that you look at on the rack/shelf and go "WHO ON EARTH would look good in that???")
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Some of the things the wiki doesn't say about emos that is the source of why they receive so much ridicule (and I assure you, they do) is that they have the stereotype of being whiners, and usually about trivial stuff. They're also stuck with the label of largely being cutters, but not through any actual disorder, but just to get attention. They catch a LOT of crap for the tight pants and the crying (gay jokes are rampant). They thrive on bad poetry.
They're like goths that try to be hip at the same time.
Actually this video says it better than I ever could. Some language may not be suitable for all audiences.
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I wear boring normal-fitting jeans with cheap pocket Ts. I wonder what kind of fashion statement that is.
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I've not tried on any girls' pants, though I might once just to see how they look. I do confess to wearing somewhat tight normal jeans because I've gotten a lot of compliments from females >.> <.<
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quote:Originally posted by sylvrdragon: Some of the things the wiki doesn't say about emos that is the source of why they receive so much ridicule (and I assure you, they do) is that they have the stereotype of being whiners, and usually about trivial stuff. They're also stuck with the label of largely being cutters, but not through any actual disorder, but just to get attention. They catch a LOT of crap for the tight pants and the crying (gay jokes are rampant). They thrive on bad poetry.
They're like goths that try to be hip at the same time.
Actually this video says it better than I ever could. Some language may not be suitable for all audiences.
Maybe beatniks were the early fore-runners of emos.
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quote:Originally posted by Elizabeth: I do know that, but I have to wonder: which emotions?
Mostly narcissism, mixed with a healthy dose of unrealistic perception of self, and a sense of entitlement.
Emo is strictly for over-entitled teens with poor coping skills and a desperate wish not to be a conformist, inconveniently echoed by a sea of like-minded kids.
Having worked for years with teens, and having been one not that long ago, I can tell you that typically, as someone said earlier, this emo fad starts to bake off after about 16, when teens start looking around and finding role models in "conformist" life that they would actually want to be like. At that point, some of them wear the style in an almost self-mocking and ironic way, but most get tired, very quickly, of the younger teens who glom onto the movement and reveal the reasons why it is essentially the same as any trend.
Edit: That, and, as your hormones settle down, you start looking for comfortable clothing. Emo clothes are, if anything, not comfort-wear.
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I was thinking, "Somebody call Stacy and Clinton."
Not that I'm much (any) better-- but if you want to know what kind of fashion statement you're making... Posts: 21182 | Registered: Sep 2004
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I have a pair of bell-bottom pants from the 70's that I wear frequently. They are pretty tight, but they're also cut to be worn by a man, so the crotch is comfortable. I get compliments on them, some genuine, others not so much. They are also, on occasion, mistaken for women's pants (which they are not). I can't see how wearing pants made for a woman can be comfortable. Heck, I have a problem finding men's jeans that fit me properly. I have a 28 inch waist, and the majority of men's jeans made in that size have the crotch much too high for comfort, so I'm forced to get size 30 and wear a belt (28 waist 32 long is my ideal pants size, but again, they rarely fit right). For some reason, I've had more success finding khakis, dress pants, or vintage pants that fit properly.
I wear a sweatshirt that I bought for my girlfriend on a regular basis. It's designed to be very noticeably tight on the lower half (I'm sure this was done to help show off certain assists, and it's (sadly?)why I bought it for her (not that she needs help in that department, I just thought it would be sexy on her)). I have a thin waist and a V-shaped chest, and, oddly enough,I find the sweatshirt very comfortable. I don't know if it looks good, but I really only wear it around the house, so I guess it doesn't matter.
I am a little curious why they don't make men's shirts like that. I thought that the V-shaped core (trunk? torso?) was ideal, why not take that into account somewhere? But hey, I don't like baggy clothes, including shirts; I don't find them comfortable.
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No quid. Think of Danny Noriega after three nights without sleep, in all black, with cheaper clothing, preferably second hand, agressive piercing or black eyeliner, some color in the hair, but something mixed with black, and maybe lots of patches having to do with suitably random topics or obscure bands that suck. These last are affixed with clothespins.
Finish with a long black zip up sweatshirt with a clothespin affixed to one side, as it has been ripped slightly. The clothespin is the friend of the emo-kid.
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No it is. It's absurdly tacky and ugly. It's almost ludicrously tacky and ugly. I think the assault on the senses and common sense is part of the get-up. I mean, when I look at an emo-kid, or a goth for that matter, the first thing that occurs to me is how uncomfortable they must be- not only how self-conscious and edgy, but also just plain sweaty and encased in cheap fabric.
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Link for more unusual hair. Also, note the name on his hand with the mispelling and the word star. Tres emo.
I don't think it's particularly uglier than any other group, merely heavily stylized. The 13-16 age group is particularly susceptible to stylization, and the Emo look goes well with very young, skinny, small frames (which this age group often has).
From a less negative viewpoint, the emotions meant by their name I think is supposed to being aware and okay with your emotions, perhaps that would never be articulated but I think that's the general idea. Hence the tears, poetry etc.
It's narcissistic because, unlike previous movements involving emotions (like Sentimentalism), the emotions are most often your own and there is less focus on, say, crying about world affairs or poverty and more on your own issues. Since they are often middle class kids this is regarded as being not particularly warranted and therefore whiny.
I suppose it's like a neo-goth movement.
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Wow, in my high school skater days, the looser the pants, the better. If you were a guy wearing tight pants at my high school, the homophobes would ask if you're gay. Times have sure changed in 5 years since I've graduated high school.
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They still ask, just nobody realy cares because there are popular kids doing it just to be wacky or look cool, so it doesnt matter as much if anyone else wants to wear tight pants
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Emo boys are vaguely cute. Shame the music is so dreadfully incredibly boring and annoying. The vocals! I can't stand them! It's like most of them are trying to sound like Greenday with one fourth of the talent.
Perhaps I just like men who wear eyeliner for some reason I can't figure out.
I don't think I'd mind my kids dressing gothy (but how many black kids do you see dressing like that?) I'd probably be more alarmed if they wear pink and orange or respectable clothes. AUGH!
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Those girls jeans are nearly the same as vintage standard-cut hip-huggers. Other than a 2to4inch/5to10centimetre lower waist, those girls jeans are the same as vintage standard-cut men's jeans. It's difficult (when not impossible) to find that vintage standard-cut in the men's section: The skinniest men's cut is usually what would have been a "Big Men's" cut in the vintage era; ie intended for the overweight. Baggies were styled after the droopy drawers worn by gangsta rappers imitating their heroes' prison garb and shoplifter clothing.
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I feel like I'm officially old. I hadn't heard of "Scene" vs. "Emo" until now, and I used to have an extensive knowledge of social codes, cliques, and trends.
I'm absolutely NOT going to buy adult clothes yet, though. I refuse. My only nice clothes are concert attire, and it's gonna stay that way.
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I completely missed that about $50 a week--that's ridiculous. If we did all our chores, homework, and didn't get into any fights with our parents, we got 5 bucks on Saturday. I think that's a perfectly reasonable allowance. Of course, my sisters started fighting with my parents constantly when they became teenagers, so the system kind of broke down.
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quote:Originally posted by LargeTuna: wearing tight pants is for (in my eperiences) D nonconformists - emos, skaters, punks, , etcetera
In MY experience, people who dress like this usually aren't noncomformists. They're usually "Look, everyone likes this band, so I can wear their t-shirt and look cool" sort of kids. You know, the ones that annoy those of us who are actually very devoted to rock and roll music and that find most of the bands the "emos, skaters, and punks" like to be incredibly lame and cliche rip-offs of one another. They buy t-shirts for bands they don't even listen to purely because they're popular, and they have the t-shirts at the nearest Hot Topic.
My experience may be slightly tempered by the fact that I live in rural Missouri. And most of these kids really are lame trend following slugs that listen to whatever crap MTV is celebrating.
*shrugs* I have a slightly holier-than-thou attitude when it comes to music.
P.S. There was an ad for Rock-the-Vote that had a clip of a Bad Brains concert. They showed it on MTV. And I was really worried that a bunch of these lame kids would come to school saying things like, "So, I love this new band Bad Brains. They rock. I saw them on MTV. Their debut CD Build a Nation is really good."
And then I would have to slap them and say, "That IS NOT Bad Brains first album, you idiot. They've released somewhere in the realm of eight albums. That's not counting greatest hit collections, live albums, EP's, or bootlegs. Take off that t-shirt and go hide in the corner and listen to your crap. Don't dare utter the words Bad Brains around me ever again."
It'll be safe as long as The Melvins stay my secret. If they start claiming to like The Melvins, I'll freak out.
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quote:Originally posted by JonHecht: "She spends $50 a week on clothes - almost all her pocket money - and buys at least one CD a week."
Wow... they have way too much cash.
Sorry for the double post. But I wanted to say that I spend a fair amount of money on [GOOD] CDs. But I also have a job and earn my money. And the CDs are, let me say it again, GOOD.
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