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BelladonnaOrchid
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So I know that there are a lot of Hatracker girls and boys out there that love anime. I am one of them. In addition, I know we already have a thread or two floating around about our favorite anime or anime recommends.

But what about the bad anime? The really, really bad ones that make you think that you'd have better spent your time blinding yourself than watching that again? (Ok, that might be a bit extreme.) The anime that is so chock full of cliche's and plot holes that you just can't make it through episode 3 (not even in hope that it gets better in the end)! When you watched this anime it made you want to go running through the streets, screaming to passersby to warn them about the dangers this anime poses the watchers' mental state.

Now, let's be fair here-if you list a bad anime, you have to list why you hated it.

I'll start. How about Samurai Deeper Kyo? Each episode of this anime starts with our hero going to a new town, everyone in the town turns into a monster which he then kills. There is no moving forward in the plot, even after what feels like 16 episodes. I bought the complete series and I still haven't watched it to the end. My DH was watching this with me, missed a couple of episodes, came back and said, 'Are they still fighting?'

What a bore!

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I was shown once way back, three or four years ago, in which one of the super powers of one of the characters was that every time he climbed out of bed, the bed exploded.

And I think he could walk through buildings.

That's as much as I can remember. No name or anything.

Does it qualify as really bad? I mean, I don't know much else about it, besides the exploding beds and walking through buildings. But that was enough for me.

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*counting down until someone brings up MD Geist!*

Would shonen fans hate me if I said DragonBall Z?

The art is ugly. Most episodes are filler, padded out with fluff.

And yet, it hypnotized my younger brothers for years... *shudder*

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Puffy: The episodes of DBZ that are fluff were deliberate as the manga had not been written far enough ahead of the anime series. I actually like the way Akira Toriyama draws his characters. You should also note that the series was being drawn in the late 80's and 90's.

As for my own selections for really bad anime.

Samurai X was really stupid, they kept playing and replaying their one expensive action sequence.

Gilgamesh was completely boring, it just wouldn't stop being boring, I don't know how even the writer was being entertained by it all.

Ghost In The Shell 2: A very unworthy sequel to a groundbreaking anime.

Ranma 1/2: Even boobies couldn't make this extremely stupid show interesting.

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Puffy Treat, yeah, the fluff/filler thing killed Dragon Ball Z for me. I don't how many episodes I went through with Goku fighting Freeza with NO RESOLUTION. And then summer was over, school had started up again, and I couldn't be back home in time from school to see the episodes. Pretty frustrating. The animation was fine, though, and when they weren't monologuing and actually fought the action was pretty cool.
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Candidate For Goddess was... unpleasant. Well, in retrospect.

12 22 minute episodes long, something like 25+ characters to keep track of, illogical plotlines, plot contradictions from the first episode onward, an unimaginably annoying protagonist, a distinct lack of logic, a heroine who inexplicably turns out to be a catgirl for no good reason, story logic is nonexistent, no ending, and a disturbing absence of logic.

Also, the plot made no sense, since it was lacking logic. Or something.

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The Wings of Honneamise
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Warriors of the Wind, which is Disney's mangling of Nausicaa. If you've seen the real version, get this: in Disney's version, the Ohmu are the bad guys.
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BelladonnaOrchid by that logic then Kino's Journey would be bad except even without a real plot Kino's Journey is a surreal and excellent anime of the "wander the world" sort.

Ranma 1/2 For whatever reason I actually found funny but then again I'm watching the show "several" episodes at a time, I wouldn't tolerate what they pull if I was only watching it once a week. Im probably channeling the MT3k mantra when watching it though.

The good news Lady and Gentlemen about DBZ is that theyre rereleasing it! With the filler toned down and the fight scenes and charge up shortened.

Slayer i say is terrible, a 12 year old girl able to cast something akin to an epic level spell at WILL!? Retarded.

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Puffy: The episodes of DBZ that are fluff were deliberate as the manga had not been written far enough ahead of the anime series.

I know. [Smile]


I actually like the way Akira Toriyama draws his characters.

I don't. [Big Grin]


You should also note that the series was being drawn in the late 80's and 90's.

I know. However, there are anime series from the 80s and 90s that I adore. This is not one of them, sorry DBZ fans.

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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:


The good news Lady and Gentlemen about DBZ is that theyre rereleasing it! With the filler toned down and the fight scenes and charge up shortened.

The advance reviews of DBZ: Kai say that the changes aren't anywhere near as major as the hype promised. I hope my siblings haven't bought into it.
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BlackBlade: I hope you are referring to the second GitS movie, because I'm seriously contemplating acquiring the SAC 2nd gig on DVD. I watched the first series and enjoyed it almost as much as the movie.

Otherwise I have been fortunate enough to have avoided the Really Bad Manga. This is mostly due to the fact that I haven't watched all that much. What I do watch is recommended to me by someone who watches almost everything that comes out within this genre.

When it comes to Dragonball Z, I must confess that I've never been a fan of the series. It was just to slow for me. But I have seen a fair amount ofthe episodes, because my brother was an avid fan. Tonight I going to gather my courage and go to the cinema to view the live action movie. Don't tell me, I know it's going to be bad. I just feel like checking out how bad it actually is.

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Puffy:

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I know. [Smile]
You are wrong.


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I don't. [Big Grin]

You are wrong.

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I know. However, there are anime series from the 80s and 90s that I adore. This is not one of them, sorry DBZ fans.

You are wrong. Apology accepted.

[Razz]

Mr. Y: Doesn't "Ghost In The Shell 2" Denote the second movie? I wouldn't call the TV series the same thing. I've watched a few episodes of SAC 2nd gig and they've ranged from great to OK. I'm trying to decide if I want to work my way through them. I absolutely hate that with all of Netflix's instant view anime virtually all of them are English dubs.

Blayne:
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Ranma 1/2 For whatever reason I actually found funny but then again I'm watching the show "several" episodes at a time, I wouldn't tolerate what they pull if I was only watching it once a week. Im probably channeling the MT3k mantra when watching it though.

You are wrong. [Taunt]

Also I am surprised you would watch an anime that clearly depicts good Chinese communists as retarded. I think Inuyasha represents Rumiko Takahashi's best effort, and even that has the unforgivable sin of never tying up a single plot line.

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quote:
The Wings of Honneamise
As a title, I think Wings of Mayonnaise would work better.

More intriguing, and more pronounceable.

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Blackblade: Just making sure. I do agree with you on the English dubs. I've tried to watch Ghost in the Shell once with the English audio and it was pretty annoying. Since I have no problems with subtitles, I'll definitely choose the original version from now on.
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Innocence wasn't quite as good as the original Ghost in the Shell.

Both gigs of Standalone Complex are quite good; I prefer the second overall due to its darker tone. The first one has a bit too much of the anime cuteness in it for me (hello, Tachikomas).

X and Ninja Scroll were both horrendous.

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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Puffy:

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I know. [Smile]
You are wrong.


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I don't. [Big Grin]

You are wrong.

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I know. However, there are anime series from the 80s and 90s that I adore. This is not one of them, sorry DBZ fans.

You are wrong. Apology accepted.

[Razz]

Mr. Y: Doesn't "Ghost In The Shell 2" Denote the second movie? I wouldn't call the TV series the same thing. I've watched a few episodes of SAC 2nd gig and they've ranged from great to OK. I'm trying to decide if I want to work my way through them. I absolutely hate that with all of Netflix's instant view anime virtually all of them are English dubs.

Blayne:
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Ranma 1/2 For whatever reason I actually found funny but then again I'm watching the show "several" episodes at a time, I wouldn't tolerate what they pull if I was only watching it once a week. Im probably channeling the MT3k mantra when watching it though.

You are wrong. [Taunt]

Also I am surprised you would watch an anime that clearly depicts good Chinese communists as retarded. I think Inuyasha represents Rumiko Takahashi's best effort, and even that has the unforgivable sin of never tying up a single plot line.

Oh, name me 3 examples.

All I ever saw was people who while yes Chinese and Communist or at least members of their local Communist Action Committee acting just as smart or dumb depending on your view of things as the OTHER main characters! If anything they seemed smarter as its alledged they found a way to control the transformations.

A Singsongy hyper overly helpful Chinese tour guide i think is generally a standard way of portraying Chinese stereotypes.

I think I watch primarily for Shampoo, I'm amazed that they (tried) to give her a Chinese accent in the dub, (I dont watch the dub but i switch over to rewatch some dialogue to see the differences) though it sounds so obviously fake that while they get points for effort they get a massive penalty for raping my ears.

Oh and yeah, Shampoo is so deviously cunning I think I watch just for her, though I am starting to get a bit annoyed with the main characters, c'mon she's tried maybe 10 times by now to mind control Ranma? Cant they tell that if Ranma starts acting strangely and shes around, SOMETHINGS UP! Its like they take Idiot pills just so they can handle the idiot ball they're given out on those episodes.

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I actually liked Akira Toriyama's art in Doctor Slump, oddly enough. I think he's far better suited to humor of the absurd and light-hearted whimsy than to action stuff.
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Weißkreuz or however that title is supposed to look. Ugh. We made it two episodes in, and that was really only to give it the benefit of the doubt that the horrid first episode wasn't going to become a trend. We laughed and laughed and laughed at how truly awful it turned out to be.
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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
BelladonnaOrchid by that logic then Kino's Journey would be bad except even without a real plot Kino's Journey is a surreal and excellent anime of the "wander the world" sort.

If Kino's Journey is a wander the world killing every group of townspeople that mysteriously turn into monsters without ever telling the audience why they are turning into monsters type of anime, then you're absolutely right. I would give it the 'this is a horrendous anime' stamp and be pleased with myself.

However, if Kino's Journey is not that type of movie, then this is a bad comparison and shame on you. [Wink]

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Aw, Ranma 1/2 was my introduction to anime, and I still hold some amount of fondness for it. It can be really fun in small doses. A few years ago my husband and I were working through the whole series, but we eventually got tired of it because there were too many episodes with the dirty old grandpa.

--Mel

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quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
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Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:


The good news Lady and Gentlemen about DBZ is that theyre rereleasing it! With the filler toned down and the fight scenes and charge up shortened.

The advance reviews of DBZ: Kai say that the changes aren't anywhere near as major as the hype promised. I hope my siblings haven't bought into it.
I just watched the first episode, but I don't really see how one can judge it on that. How much would you expect them to change in the first episode, or even the first few?
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The reviews I've read were for the first few episodes, yes. Though they have do have a basis for comparison, the original DBZ run. As far as judging goes, they were reviewers, doing a spring/summer 2009 anime preview. It's their job to give their opinion of how the new shows grab them. [Smile]
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I understand. I'm just saying that in this case, it's essentially a special edition of a series that had almost 300 episodes. They have a LOT of material to play with, and I don't think that there's anything in the first 2-3 episodes that calls for radical alterations. Those episode just set up the premise for the first story arc.
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Rosario+Vampire is sickeningly bad. I don't particularly mind the manga, but the show is like scraping my brain with a cheese grater. A cheese grater made of panties. No idea why it's so popular.
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I was never able to get into Angel Sanctuary, even though everyone and their brother tells me it's amazing. I had a hard time following who was who, who was where, where was when and all sorts of other things. It just got too complicated too quickly for me.
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I hate that car racing anime. I can't think of the name. It was so annoying. The kid was so dopey.

Some of these animes folks say are bad I like.

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quote:
Originally posted by Synesthesia:
I hate that car racing anime. I can't think of the name. It was so annoying. The kid was so dopey.

Some of these animes folks say are bad I like.

Initial D or Speed Racer? [Razz]
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:
Originally posted by Synesthesia:
I hate that car racing anime. I can't think of the name. It was so annoying. The kid was so dopey.

Some of these animes folks say are bad I like.

Initial D or Speed Racer? [Razz]
I knew it was Initial something... I hated the few episodes of that I saw at an Anime convention.
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If you want a good laugh, look up Strike Witches.

"The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes." -wiki

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quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
I actually liked Akira Toriyama's art in Doctor Slump, oddly enough. I think he's far better suited to humor of the absurd and light-hearted whimsy than to action stuff.

Do you like Dragonball?
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Solar Macharius:
If you want a good laugh, look up Strike Witches.

"The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes." -wiki

[Eek!] Wow. That sounds really horrible!
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Solar Macharius:
If you want a good laugh, look up Strike Witches.

"The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes." -wiki

[Eek!] Wow. That sounds really horrible!
True Story
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Do they all actually have cat ears in the anime? I know sometimes characters are just drawn in still with them, but really? Plane legs and cat ears? The artist has to be seriously confused.
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