quote:Originally posted by DarkKnight: I wonder why Democrats and the rest of the media are so obessed with making sure everyone hates Limbaugh? Why don't the have the same obession with someone like Maddow? or Olbermann? Rall? Jesse Jackson? or even following the gaffe machine Biden?
Except that they do. I've heard Olbermann specifically criticized for having too many "I just can't hold this in anymore" moments. Jesse Jackson was recognized as a poor spokesman for liberalism a long time ago, and the press has no problem pointing out Biden's gaffes.
What really bothers people like me is that Limbaugh is objectively a poor spokesman for conservatism. He's an excessively angry, thrice divorced, addicted to pain killers, corpulent, sexist, who deigns to talk about social values. Republicans keep balking at calling a spade a spade. A Republican party that tells Limbaugh he is not wanted or desired is a Republican party that can get its' moorings back. But every time they manage to summon the courage to call some of his remarks, "inflammatory" or "rude" Rush blasts them for not being "real Republicans" and then they lose their integrity by apologizing.
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quote: He's an excessively angry, thrice divorced, addicted to pain killers, corpulent, sexist, who deigns to talk about social values.
This is the best brief description of Rush Limbaugh I can recall reading, BB.
Amen.
I liked Powell's statement.
quote:"I think what Rush does as an entertainer diminishes the party and intrudes or inserts into our public life a kind of nastiness that we would be better to do without," Powell said.
quote:"Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?"
Certainly Rush is not the only nasty voice out their appealling to people's lesser instincts, but he is certainly the most widely heard and one of the loudest. By all reports, his show draws a minimum of 13 million listeners every week. He has an enormous fan club, he sells T-shirts promoting water boarding. If you add all the followers of everyone on DK's list together I can't imagine they add up to half as many followers as Rush has. Evidently hate mongering pays and Limbaugh is simply better at it than the others.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: ... He's an excessively angry, thrice divorced, addicted to pain killers, corpulent, sexist, who deigns to talk about social values.
He sounds like an evil hypocritical House! Posts: 7593 | Registered: Sep 2006
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Rakeesh: Thanks, I debated whether to add 'racist' and 'college dropout' to the list but I'm not certain he's a racist, and dropping out of college is not categorically bad.
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My brother has the most awesome artwork ever but I can't show it due to copyright issues basically its Spongbob squarepants acting all googily eyed and happy when squidward is waterboarding him as spongebob is restrained to a table.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Colin Powell becomes the next prominent Republican to take a shot at Limbaugh.
Please please please don't apologize for your remarks Mr. Powell!
Heh. Colin Powell is nearly as much persona non grata in today's Republican Party as Specter is. He endorsed Obama, remember?
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I think Powell could come back into public life pretty easily if he wanted to. I really don't get the sense that at this point in his life he covets the limelight. Given the kind of people who are getting the limelight these days, especially on the right, one can hardly blame him.
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quote:Rakeesh: Thanks, I debated whether to add 'racist' and 'college dropout' to the list but I'm not certain he's a racist, and dropping out of college is not categorically bad.
Well, I can't say I'm certain...but if I could read his mind, let's just say I'd be flabbergasted if it turned out he wasn't a racist.
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quote:Rakeesh: Thanks, I debated whether to add 'racist' and 'college dropout' to the list but I'm not certain he's a racist, and dropping out of college is not categorically bad.
Well, I can't say I'm certain...but if I could read his mind, let's just say I'd be flabbergasted if it turned out he wasn't a racist.
quote: Evidently hate mongering pays and Limbaugh is simply better at it than the others.
Unless he is better at it because he doesn't use hate-mongering. Rush's show is more about being positive and doing things yourself and not what the government should be doing for you. It's easy to take 15 hours of programming a week, pull out maybe 20 seconds, to make a claim of hate mongering.
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quote: *laugh* Oh, yeah. He's like Oprah for NASCAR dads, I'm sure.
What a clever line...I wonder where you read it? You don't listen so you don't know. Not that you would do something to go against your already unchanging unfailing intellect, but try listening for awhile (that means more than 2 minutes) and see if you think Rush is a hate mongering negative person or if his show is about something else. I await your snarky post in return. I can't wait for the terrific tidbit of condescension, it's all you ever do! (Note how I can reduce you to something you are not by utilizing the same techniques you use to characterize Rush)
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How many minutes do I have to listen to Rush before I'm allowed to form an opinion of whether he's positive or not? Is there a particularly positive bit I should be tuning in for, maybe at the 1:07 mark? Let me know when he's giving away the free cars.
quote:Note how I can reduce you to something you are not by utilizing the same techniques you use to characterize Rush
Ah, dude. Somehow you still manage to completely miss the point. But keep on truckin'.
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DarkKnight, I have listened to Limbaugh, and hell, I voted for Dubya twice. So my credibility as a non-hater-of-conservatives, I think, has to be at least a little valid.
And I think he's a hate-monger. It's true, not every hour of his show is filled with frothing invective. But then, it doesn't have to be for him to still be an angry hate-monger.
Here's what I remember hearing from the Rush Limbaugh show on all the occasions I've listened: lots of preaching to the choir (that's the majority), slightly less but still lots of major condescension (a close second), frequent personal insult, straw men, and slippery slope reasoning, punctuated by both feel-good stories and the hate-filled invective.
What makes Limbaugh a hate-monger is that he embraces, in a whopping big hearty bear hug, all the hateful things he says. He cops to his personal insults with all their hints of racism and sexism with a big sh@#-eating grin.
He's a stain on conservative politics, who tragically isn't going away anytime soon. Which is strange (some might say hypocritical) given his stance on crime.
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: My brother has the most awesome artwork ever but I can't show it due to copyright issues basically its Spongbob squarepants acting all googily eyed and happy when squidward is waterboarding him as spongebob is restrained to a table.
Um, given the quantity of deviantArt that's just a rehash of pop culture characters, I think you are perfectly safe showing someone a work that clearly counts as parody.
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quote: *laugh* Oh, yeah. He's like Oprah for NASCAR dads, I'm sure.
What a clever line...I wonder where you read it? You don't listen so you don't know. Not that you would do something to go against your already unchanging unfailing intellect, but try listening for awhile (that means more than 2 minutes) and see if you think Rush is a hate mongering negative person or if his show is about something else. I await your snarky post in return.
I listened to rush every broadcast day for seven months in a row. His business strategy and his mode of punditry is to seed hate. More importantly, he pontificates through mockery, ignorant disdain, disregard for the facts, and mammoth self-righteousness.
Any more tricks besides the 'listen to him first' line?
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