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Danlo the Wild
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With the Re-Appointment of Ben Bernanke,
the appointment of Timothy Geithner,
the Health Care giant turd,
and now libya.

I am so voting for Obama in this poll.

His Pre-Election, Post Election performance rivals
that of Heath Ledger in 'The Dark Knight.

F U B O

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Blayne Bradley
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An intelligent reasoned post could be made regarding to a subject matter similar to this, but clearly not here in this thread.
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Samprimary
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'and now libya' makes me go all crosseyed here. Oh well, whatever
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Both of them were presidents that had to lead in very difficult times. This can make a truly wonderful President seem even better, but will likely make the average President seem even worse.

I don't think either of them are any more awful than the average politician. However, neither of them are truly remarkable either. So... they both SEEM like they screwed up far more than they got right.

As far as a comparison though, I really don't know. It's very hard to do a direct comparison when the situations are so vastly different.

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Rawrain
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Considering how poor I am, Obama's health care reform was ridiculous, trying to make health care like car insurance should never be done, especially with this continued depression.
(-100 points for (trying to) screwing honest poor people)

I never much cared for Bush. dragging us into a war.... well not really a war more like battleship.
Sure we may have the whole damn board filled and they only have one ship... but who's going to be doing more damage.. (-(subjective) points for all the deaths this game has costed)

Beep-bap-boop
I prefer not to vote for either, I am waiting for Communist candidate or someone of similar goals.
My friends and family think that is a terrible idea, but just because the candidate is Communist doesn't mean the government would be, party for the people, not party for the government...

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I can't even think about the war without wanting to throw something. Honestly, my biggest complaints about Obama tend to be about how much he's struggling to fix Bush's mistakes.

I will say that I have a brother who just got his first teaching job (albeit, temporary). I'm not looking forward to watching him come to harsh realization that NCLB is a disaster. I watched several friends who are currently teachers go through the same terrible wake-up call and it was depressing. Having attended public schools under Bush's time as Texas' governor, I have nothing to kind to say about what that man has done to education in my home state and in this country.

However, my brother's teacher salary means that his wallet now looks down its nose at mine. I'm ridiculously poor and yet, a quarter of my yearly income in the last twelve months has gone straight into the pockets of doctors, hospitals, and my insurance company. On Wednesday, I spent four hours on the phone listening to my hospital and my insurance company blaming each other for misfiling a claim. It ended with me promising to pay for their mistake and threatening legal action if I get one more bill in the mail.

Do I love the new healthcare bill? No. Do I think reform is way overdue in this country? YES! If nothing else, I'm glad that people are atleast talking about the state of health care in this country. I work in a bookstore in a time when e-reader sales are up and a depression is freezing consumer spending. Writing a $300 check for a doctor I met with for an hour is cutting into my ability to eat and keep the electricity on in my house.

Even my dad, who is an oil-company employed Republican likes most of the changes to healtcare under Obama. He saw what I went through being uninsured after college and he's happy my younger brothers will be better off.

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Samprimary
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quote:
I will say that I have a brother who just got his first teaching job (albeit, temporary). I'm not looking forward to watching him come to harsh realization that NCLB is a disaster. I watched several friends who are currently teachers go through the same terrible wake-up call and it was depressing. Having attended public schools under Bush's time as Texas' governor, I have nothing to kind to say about what that man has done to education in my home state and in this country.

However, my brother's teacher salary means that his wallet now looks down its nose at mine. I'm ridiculously poor and yet, a quarter of my yearly income in the last twelve months has gone straight into the pockets of doctors, hospitals, and my insurance company. On Wednesday, I spent four hours on the phone listening to my hospital and my insurance company blaming each other for misfiling a claim. It ended with me promising to pay for their mistake and threatening legal action if I get one more bill in the mail.

It's stuff like this both the educational system and our health system which wounds me. How am I supposed to direct more ire to the person who's too busy botching a desperate cleanup attempt, than the people responsible for the mess in the first place?

~*my partisanship*~

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Rawrain
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Doctors are payed too much to paying attention.
I've been to the doctor over 20 times for my nose, and finally a new doctor say's you have a deviated septum. All them previous visit's I told the doctors I had trouble breathing out of my nose, they looked up my nose and would say "It's fine", "It's a little swollen on that side" and to top it off, "You should try using an anti-histamine.".

Basically they made a lot of money for- looking up my nose, and giving me a suggestions I could have gotten from a 5 year old...

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Samprimary
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quote:
Originally posted by Rawrain:
Doctors are payed too much to paying attention.

what?
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Rawrain,

I've found it all depends on the doctor that you go to. Some doctors are so overwhelmed with patients they don't remember you remotely the next time they see you. Some doctors take time to write notes and seem to genuinely care. It's totally worth it to shop around until you find one you like.

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